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The result was '''keep'''. [[WP:SNOW]] [[User:The Bushranger|The Bushranger]] <sub><font color="maroon">[[User talk:The Bushranger|One ping only]]</font></sub> 19:59, 27 May 2012 (UTC) |
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===[[List of successful coups d'état]]=== |
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*'''Keep'''. This article needs improvement such as more clearly defined criteria as to what makes a coup "successful", more wikilinks, and better sourcing. But those issues can be dealt with through normal editing. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User talk:Metropolitan90|(talk)]] 04:36, 25 May 2012 (UTC) |
*'''Keep'''. This article needs improvement such as more clearly defined criteria as to what makes a coup "successful", more wikilinks, and better sourcing. But those issues can be dealt with through normal editing. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User talk:Metropolitan90|(talk)]] 04:36, 25 May 2012 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' Perfectly viable topic for a list, and the nomination seems to be a case of [[WP:VAGUEWAVE]] given that no specific concerns are raised. [[User:Nick-D|Nick-D]] ([[User talk:Nick-D|talk]]) 07:36, 25 May 2012 (UTC) |
*'''Keep''' Perfectly viable topic for a list, and the nomination seems to be a case of [[WP:VAGUEWAVE]] given that no specific concerns are raised. [[User:Nick-D|Nick-D]] ([[User talk:Nick-D|talk]]) 07:36, 25 May 2012 (UTC) |
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*'''Speedy keep''', completely meritless and substanceless VAGUEWAVE nomination, not his only one pending nor the only one in which he couldn't even be bothered to use basic punctuation. It is unacceptable for an experienced editor to so lazily spit out an AFD so as to just create work for others in responding and closing it, and he should be blocked for disruption if he does it again. '''[[User:Postdlf|postdlf]]''' (''[[User talk:Postdlf|talk]]'') 13:48, 26 May 2012 (UTC) |
*'''Speedy keep''', completely meritless and substanceless VAGUEWAVE nomination, not his only one pending nor the only one in which he couldn't even be bothered to use basic punctuation. It is unacceptable for an experienced editor to so lazily spit out an AFD so as to just create work for others in responding and closing it, and he should be blocked for disruption if he does it again. |
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{{hat|WP CIVIL is policy. This isn't even a vote }} |
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'''[[User:Postdlf|postdlf]]''' (''[[User talk:Postdlf|talk]]'') 13:48, 26 May 2012 (UTC) |
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:*[[WP:ADHOM|The punctuation skills of the nominator are irrelevant]] and complaining about them could in itself be considered disruptive. [[User:Dricherby|Dricherby]] ([[User talk:Dricherby|talk]]) 14:01, 26 May 2012 (UTC) |
:*[[WP:ADHOM|The punctuation skills of the nominator are irrelevant]] and complaining about them could in itself be considered disruptive. [[User:Dricherby|Dricherby]] ([[User talk:Dricherby|talk]]) 14:01, 26 May 2012 (UTC) |
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::*It goes to the time and effort he took to post this. He's not a newbie, and as his fanciful signature should attest, he's not without basic skills here, so I do not believe he is unable to use a period. [[WP:ADHOM]] is irrelevant because I am not addressing his conduct here as a way to defend the merits of the list, but because I find his conduct unacceptable in and of itself. '''[[User:Postdlf|postdlf]]''' (''[[User talk:Postdlf|talk]]'') 14:07, 26 May 2012 (UTC) |
::*It goes to the time and effort he took to post this. He's not a newbie, and as his fanciful signature should attest, he's not without basic skills here, so I do not believe he is unable to use a period. [[WP:ADHOM]] is irrelevant because I am not addressing his conduct here as a way to defend the merits of the list, but because I find his conduct unacceptable in and of itself. '''[[User:Postdlf|postdlf]]''' (''[[User talk:Postdlf|talk]]'') 14:07, 26 May 2012 (UTC) |
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:::*No. The time and effort taken to post this are shown by the lack of justification for deletion, beyond a link to a policy. Since they did not affect the clarity of his communication, his punctuation skills are no more relevant than his hairstyle. [[User:Dricherby|Dricherby]] ([[User talk:Dricherby|talk]]) 08:37, 27 May 2012 (UTC) |
:::*No. The time and effort taken to post this are shown by the lack of justification for deletion, beyond a link to a policy. Since they did not affect the clarity of his communication, his punctuation skills are no more relevant than his hairstyle. [[User:Dricherby|Dricherby]] ([[User talk:Dricherby|talk]]) 08:37, 27 May 2012 (UTC) |
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*'''Speedy keep''' unless the nominator is willing to explain why he feels the article does not conform to policies/guidelines. The nomination is currently [[WP:JUSTALINK]]. [[User:Suriel1981|<font color="#9400D2" face="comic sans ms"><strong>ŞůṜīΣĻ</strong></font><font color="#00008C" face="Papyrus">¹98¹</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Suriel1981|<font COLOR="#DC143C"><strong>Speak</strong></font>]]</sup> 06:11, 27 May 2012 (UTC) |
*'''Speedy keep''' unless the nominator is willing to explain why he feels the article does not conform to policies/guidelines. The nomination is currently [[WP:JUSTALINK]]. [[User:Suriel1981|<font color="#9400D2" face="comic sans ms"><strong>ŞůṜīΣĻ</strong></font><font color="#00008C" face="Papyrus">¹98¹</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Suriel1981|<font COLOR="#DC143C"><strong>Speak</strong></font>]]</sup> 06:11, 27 May 2012 (UTC) |
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:: *'''Comment''' First,Postdlf, as a sysop, you '''should''' be aware of WP:CIV which is policy. But, let me spell it out for you. <br> |
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'''a.)'''NOTDIR is '''policy''' , that is consensus that wikipedia articles are not be to lists. This is a list,nothing more.<br> |
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'''b.)'''Consensus now needs to be shown that it should stay and '''WHY''' so far,that hasn't happened. Most of this is attacks on myself and the nomination. As consensus has decreed Wikipedia articles can't be lists, you should all be showing consensus why it should '''stay''' or else it goes. |
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....that clear enough for you, Postdlf? |
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<span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:2px;"><span style="font:small-caps 1.3em Garamond,Times,serif;color:#447744;letter-spacing:0.2em;">[[User:KoshVorlon|<font style="color:blue;background:white;"> '''K'''osh'''V'''orlon]]</font>.[[User talk:KoshVorlon|<span style="font:0.95em Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif"><font style="color:white;background:blue;"> '''A'''ngeli '''i''' '''d'''emoni '''k'''rushili '''n'''ado '''m'''noj... ]]</font></span></span> 20:01, 27 May 2012 (UTC) |
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Delete per WP:NOTDIR
Wikipedia is not a directory KoshVorlon. Angeli i demoni krushili nado mnoj... 19:18, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
- Keep. This list is not a directory. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:51, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
- Strong keep. WP:NOTDIR is irrelevant: the first two sentences of it say, "Wikipedia encompasses many lists of links to articles within Wikipedia that are used for internal organization or to describe a notable subject. In that sense, Wikipedia functions as an index or directory of its own content." This list meets WP:LSC on grounds that every entry is individually notable. Dricherby (talk) 20:56, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:55, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:55, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:55, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
- Keep There are stronger reasons to articulate for deletion--the above two !voters have it essentially correct--but even so, those would be primarily arguments for cleanup and sourcing, rather than removal of the list as inappropriate. Jclemens (talk) 00:07, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
- Keep I fail to see how this page is actually a directory. The article needs some routine cleanp, not deletion →Bmusician 01:41, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
- Keep. This article needs improvement such as more clearly defined criteria as to what makes a coup "successful", more wikilinks, and better sourcing. But those issues can be dealt with through normal editing. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:36, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
- Keep Perfectly viable topic for a list, and the nomination seems to be a case of WP:VAGUEWAVE given that no specific concerns are raised. Nick-D (talk) 07:36, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
- Speedy keep, completely meritless and substanceless VAGUEWAVE nomination, not his only one pending nor the only one in which he couldn't even be bothered to use basic punctuation. It is unacceptable for an experienced editor to so lazily spit out an AFD so as to just create work for others in responding and closing it, and he should be blocked for disruption if he does it again.
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- The punctuation skills of the nominator are irrelevant and complaining about them could in itself be considered disruptive. Dricherby (talk) 14:01, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- It goes to the time and effort he took to post this. He's not a newbie, and as his fanciful signature should attest, he's not without basic skills here, so I do not believe he is unable to use a period. WP:ADHOM is irrelevant because I am not addressing his conduct here as a way to defend the merits of the list, but because I find his conduct unacceptable in and of itself. postdlf (talk) 14:07, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- No. The time and effort taken to post this are shown by the lack of justification for deletion, beyond a link to a policy. Since they did not affect the clarity of his communication, his punctuation skills are no more relevant than his hairstyle. Dricherby (talk) 08:37, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
- Speedy keep unless the nominator is willing to explain why he feels the article does not conform to policies/guidelines. The nomination is currently WP:JUSTALINK. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 06:11, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
- *Comment First,Postdlf, as a sysop, you should be aware of WP:CIV which is policy. But, let me spell it out for you.
- *Comment First,Postdlf, as a sysop, you should be aware of WP:CIV which is policy. But, let me spell it out for you.
a.)NOTDIR is policy , that is consensus that wikipedia articles are not be to lists. This is a list,nothing more.
b.)Consensus now needs to be shown that it should stay and WHY so far,that hasn't happened. Most of this is attacks on myself and the nomination. As consensus has decreed Wikipedia articles can't be lists, you should all be showing consensus why it should stay or else it goes.
....that clear enough for you, Postdlf?
KoshVorlon. Angeli i demoni krushili nado mnoj... 20:01, 27 May 2012 (UTC)