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:::One basic flaw of a category is that only articles are listed, so if there is no article then there is no entry of that character/superhero/thing. [[User:Yomangani|Yomangani]] 15:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC) |
:::One basic flaw of a category is that only articles are listed, so if there is no article then there is no entry of that character/superhero/thing. [[User:Yomangani|Yomangani]] 15:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC) |
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::::Sub-categories could always be used... — [[User:RJHall|RJH]] ([[User_talk:RJHall|''talk'']]) |
::::Sub-categories could always be used... — [[User:RJHall|RJH]] ([[User_talk:RJHall|''talk'']]) |
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::::What would you do with say Jessica, daughter of Shylock, in a category?--[[User:Newport|Newport]] 17:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Note''' [[List of Hispanic superheroes]] Also Filipino and Native American lists exist. Would these then become catagories, too?[[User:Nyctalopia|Niki Whimbrel]] 15:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC) |
*'''Note''' [[List of Hispanic superheroes]] Also Filipino and Native American lists exist. Would these then become catagories, too?[[User:Nyctalopia|Niki Whimbrel]] 15:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''keep''' although it should be a category probably, this is the kind of thing that people would actually want to look up on some occasions. in my mind the "cruft" excuse NEVER outweighs the need for wikipedia to be a reference. All the "cruft" types were created as guidelines for things that are random collections of facts (per [[WP:NOT]]). this list can help a researcher narrow down potential subjects. if for no other reason keep under [[WP:IGNORE]]. |
*'''keep''' although it should be a category probably, this is the kind of thing that people would actually want to look up on some occasions. in my mind the "cruft" excuse NEVER outweighs the need for wikipedia to be a reference. All the "cruft" types were created as guidelines for things that are random collections of facts (per [[WP:NOT]]). this list can help a researcher narrow down potential subjects. if for no other reason keep under [[WP:IGNORE]]. |
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*Oy vey. It's hard to know where to draw the notability line on ethnicity lists. Some are obviously notable. But this one... I guess I'll give it a weak '''keep'''. :-) — [[User:RJHall|RJH]] ([[User_talk:RJHall|''talk'']]) 16:16, 27 July 2006 (UTC) |
*Oy vey. It's hard to know where to draw the notability line on ethnicity lists. Some are obviously notable. But this one... I guess I'll give it a weak '''keep'''. :-) — [[User:RJHall|RJH]] ([[User_talk:RJHall|''talk'']]) 16:16, 27 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' and remove any speculative content. The war on cruft has its place, but the rule should not be that any article that starts with "List" is removed as cruft. A list of this sort can be an extremely useful reference for a broad group of people concerned with comparing various depictions of Jews in fiction. [[User:Erechtheus|Erechtheus]] 17:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC) |
*'''Keep''' and remove any speculative content. The war on cruft has its place, but the rule should not be that any article that starts with "List" is removed as cruft. A list of this sort can be an extremely useful reference for a broad group of people concerned with comparing various depictions of Jews in fiction. [[User:Erechtheus|Erechtheus]] 17:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' This article has existed for very nearly a year and has been edited by many people; it is clearly of interest to more people than most articles.--[[User:Newport|Newport]] 17:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC) |
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List of fictitious Jews
listcruft, and even the lead section shows that it's speculative Will (Take me down to the Paradise City) 12:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Is there a coresponding list for Christianity, I wonder? If so, then this is just as valid. If not, why isn't there? Niki Whimbrel 12:45, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- If there is then it should be put up for deletion, not used as justification for the existence of this one. Yomangani 12:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree, and would vote to Keep any any all lists of this nature. But that's just my opinion. Niki Whimbrel 12:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- To nullify my argument there doesn't seem to be an corresponding list for any other religions anyway, as far as I can see.Yomangani 13:03, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- There are other lists like this. List of fictional Catholics, List of fictional actors, List of fictional films, etc. Sergeant Snopake 13:07, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- To nullify my argument there doesn't seem to be an corresponding list for any other religions anyway, as far as I can see.Yomangani 13:03, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree, and would vote to Keep any any all lists of this nature. But that's just my opinion. Niki Whimbrel 12:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- If there is then it should be put up for deletion, not used as justification for the existence of this one. Yomangani 12:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Yomangani 12:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment in the interests of fairness there should perhaps be a mention of this not unrelated AFD which survived: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Jewish_superheroes Yomangani 12:55, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep It could be a good article, if all the speculatory nature was weeded out. Sergeant Snopake 13:07, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment. Why not turn it into a category? Category: Fictitious Jews seems vastly more maintainable and reasonable to me than a list. Dark Shikari 13:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Not a bad idea, actually. Sergeant Snopake 13:45, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Good idea, on the whole. Niki Whimbrel 14:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- One basic flaw of a category is that only articles are listed, so if there is no article then there is no entry of that character/superhero/thing. Yomangani 15:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Good idea, on the whole. Niki Whimbrel 14:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Note List of Hispanic superheroes Also Filipino and Native American lists exist. Would these then become catagories, too?Niki Whimbrel 15:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- keep although it should be a category probably, this is the kind of thing that people would actually want to look up on some occasions. in my mind the "cruft" excuse NEVER outweighs the need for wikipedia to be a reference. All the "cruft" types were created as guidelines for things that are random collections of facts (per WP:NOT). this list can help a researcher narrow down potential subjects. if for no other reason keep under WP:IGNORE.
- Oy vey. It's hard to know where to draw the notability line on ethnicity lists. Some are obviously notable. But this one... I guess I'll give it a weak keep. :-) — RJH (talk) 16:16, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep and remove any speculative content. The war on cruft has its place, but the rule should not be that any article that starts with "List" is removed as cruft. A list of this sort can be an extremely useful reference for a broad group of people concerned with comparing various depictions of Jews in fiction. Erechtheus 17:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep This article has existed for very nearly a year and has been edited by many people; it is clearly of interest to more people than most articles.--Newport 17:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)