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*'''Delete''', non-notable intersection. No correlation between inventions and ethnicity. [[User:Yworo|Yworo]] ([[User talk:Yworo|talk]]) 04:53, 30 November 2010 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''', non-notable intersection. No correlation between inventions and ethnicity. [[User:Yworo|Yworo]] ([[User talk:Yworo|talk]]) 04:53, 30 November 2010 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep.''' Per Dust. Needs clean-up, but that's not a reason to AfD an article.--[[User:Epeefleche|Epeefleche]] ([[User talk:Epeefleche|talk]]) 07:40, 30 November 2010 (UTC) |
*'''Keep.''' Per Dust. Needs clean-up, but that's not a reason to AfD an article.--[[User:Epeefleche|Epeefleche]] ([[User talk:Epeefleche|talk]]) 07:40, 30 November 2010 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep.''' I find this article interesting and informative and can see no justification for its deletion. [[User:JackJud|JackJud]] ([[User talk:JackJud|talk]]) 09:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC) |
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List of Jewish inventors
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Not only is this a messy, unsourced, unmaintained list that has already once been deleted here, but it seems to redefine what it means to be an "inventor" - listing numerous vaccine discoverers and mathematicians as "inventors." It's also an irrelevant intersection for both religion and ethnicity lists. Bulldog123 02:29, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 07:41, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 07:41, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 07:41, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Give them a credit for not listing biblical characters. But, honestly, practically all "yes we did it!" lists of fooians are just as bad. The whole bunch should be reviewed as a package (and decided case by case). East of Borschov 09:53, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete - As with a similar AfD, there is really nothing notable or significant about being Jewish and being an inventor. Get rid of all these trivial, vanity lists. Tarc (talk) 14:13, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete per Borschov, trivial intersection, overly vague criteria. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 18:14, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - The result of the earlier debate was "no consensus", with the delete votes being based on the existence of no similar articles. We now have List of African-American inventors, for whatever that's worth, and List of inventors killed by their own inventions. More importantly, race/religion and profession is a non-trivial intersection, many inventors are notable FOR being Jewish inventors and vice versa, there's a tolerably clear (if overly wide) definition of inventor at invention, and in as much as there's debate about what entries belong on the list that's a matter for discussion on the talk page, not AfD. See WP:SALAT for further discussion of the criteria for acceptable stand-alone lists. - DustFormsWords (talk) 00:07, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Jewish American engineers. No, this list was recreated after once already being deleted. And it was - in no ways - improved from the previous version. Bulldog123 05:32, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- I've expressed elsewhere how dissatisfied I am with group AfDs, and it's borne out here by that discussion having no mention of the term "inventor" and instead focusing on the uselessness of an article on Jewish engineers, with which I agree. There was no relevant debate on the inventor article - DustFormsWords (talk) 05:35, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Trivial complaints. Nothing more. Bulldog123 06:06, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- That sounds like the utterance of a man who's run out of arguments. Listen, there'd clearly be no problem with a List of female heads of state (oh look, there it is!), which is a post in many countries not handed out on the basis of gender. They're notable not just because they're heads of state, but because they're female heads of state. There's no sense in which race or religion is less notable than gender, so unless your argument is that "inventor" isn't specific enough (it's fine, we have an article on it) there can be no argument that this list falls outside of the lists allowed by WP:SALAT. It needs to be trimmed to being a list of people notable for being Jewish and for being inventors, but AfD is not for cleanup. - DustFormsWords (talk) 06:15, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Well said. Agree w/Dust.--Epeefleche (talk) 08:59, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete No particular reason for existence, no correlation between (most of) these inventions and Jewishness. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 00:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete. Non-notable intersection. Jayjg (talk) 03:07, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete, non-notable intersection. No correlation between inventions and ethnicity. Yworo (talk) 04:53, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep. Per Dust. Needs clean-up, but that's not a reason to AfD an article.--Epeefleche (talk) 07:40, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep. I find this article interesting and informative and can see no justification for its deletion. JackJud (talk) 09:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)