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*'''Strong keep''' bad [[WP:FAITH]] nomination, article was nominated by user suspected of voting multiple times to delete Jewish lists, and the user has voted twice on this afd, see [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Antidote/Voting]], [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Antidote]]. [[User:Arniep|Arniep]] 02:38, 12 December 2005 (UTC) |
*'''Strong keep''' bad [[WP:FAITH]] nomination, article was nominated by user suspected of voting multiple times to delete Jewish lists, and the user has voted twice on this afd, see [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Antidote/Voting]], [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Antidote]]. [[User:Arniep|Arniep]] 02:38, 12 December 2005 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''', ill-advised listcruft. -- [[User:RyanFreisling]] [[User_talk:RyanFreisling|@]] 18:58, 12 December 2005 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''', ill-advised listcruft. -- [[User:RyanFreisling]] [[User_talk:RyanFreisling|@]] 18:58, 12 December 2005 (UTC) |
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*'''Strong keep''' - the only grounds for deletion seem to be that nobody has bothered to produce similar lists for other ethnic groups - rotten reason. - [[User:Londoneye|Londoneye]] 19:02, 12 December 2005 (UTC) |
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List of Jewish inventors
After attempts at reform on the talk page - of which were ignored - I have decided to put this list up for deletion on the basis that it is highly extraneous, unprecedented by any other nationality, religious group, or ethnicity, and frankly listcruft. As a category, this would be appropriate, seminally. However, as a list it is too broad, not well defined, and all in all highly unnecessary. Anyway, Strong Delete and possible reform into category. Antidote 21:22, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Strong Keep. Very important information in list form. We need more of this for other religions. -- JJay 21:31, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Important? In what way? How many people exactly go on Wikipedia looking for inventors based on their religion? Antidote 21:36, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: Lots of people. Same as with all the other info in this encyclopedia. I get 1.5 million google hits for inventor and religion. How do you explain that? The fact that you don't like the information, does not mean that it is not useful for many people. Was your nom in bad faith? -- JJay 21:44, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Google hits have no basis for this - as there are many google hits for academics and political party as well - but I highly doubt List of Republican inventors will ever be made. Also, your accusations of bad faith are uncalled for and rather immature, apparently whims as you seem to disagree vehemently with any deletions of religious lists. Antidote 21:52, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- It's strangely revealing that you see a question as an accusation. A simple no would have sufficed. -- JJay 22:05, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- It's even more strange for someone to ask a question like that - even moreso strangely revealing of the giver's opinion. Would you really expect a bad faith editor to put "Yes I nominated this in bad faith" - grow up. Antidote 22:16, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- My opinion is stated above. My feeling is that you nominated this when you failed to get a response on the article talk page. That's not a very good reason for Afd. I also fail to see why you feel compelled to resort to name calling. -- JJay 22:23, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- I nominated this because I thought it should be deleted or majorly reformed - but now that I think about it the best move is to delete as I see no reform available. What name-calling?.
- It's strangely revealing that you see a question as an accusation. A simple no would have sufficed. -- JJay 22:05, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Google hits have no basis for this - as there are many google hits for academics and political party as well - but I highly doubt List of Republican inventors will ever be made. Also, your accusations of bad faith are uncalled for and rather immature, apparently whims as you seem to disagree vehemently with any deletions of religious lists. Antidote 21:52, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Create category and move contents into that category. TheRingess 21:48, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Per TheRingess. --Edcolins 22:19, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Keep - There are many other lists of less utility. It is useful, particularly in list format. A category would be fine, but keep the list as well. --Dschor 00:09, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- i don't see how there being lists of less utility qualifies for keeping this - if there are worse lists...delete them too. Antidote 03:21, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, all lists that can be converted to categories, like this one.Gateman1997 00:18, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, make into category. I'll gladly help, although ones are usually made by nationality and I'm sure they already include most of these people in them. EscapeArtistsNeverDie 01:36, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- this user is a suspected sockpuppet of the nominator, see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Antidote/Voting, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Antidote. Arniep 02:39, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator. Pilatus 03:24, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator. Eusebeus 07:49, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: Please remember that lists and categories serve different purposes and that both can coexist without the need for deletion. Categorizing this would lead to the loss of numerous red-links which could spark the creation of articles on notable Jewish inventors. Only delete if this information is stored in an appropriate wikiproject first. - Mgm|(talk) 12:08, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- You mean, for some reason, Wikipedia:WikiProject Jewish Inventors hasn't taken off?!? Weird! :) Friday (talk) 14:28, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- Delete yet another list of Jewish x. Categories, people! Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] (W) AfD? 12:19, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- Delete list cruft. --Bachrach44 15:47, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- Keep — contains information that wouldn't be in a category. — RJH 17:08, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- We can easily make stubs... but from a scan of this list some people don't necessarily merit an article. Antidote 20:50, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- Which ones? They all look fairly important. -- JJay 20:55, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- Well since you demand an example - Avraham (Abraham) Cresas. Plus to notify some errors: Ludwig Mies seems like another error on this list plus calling him the inventor of industrial design is a bit farflung. Antidote 21:43, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: Sorry to be so demanding... so since you found one or two mistakes, that justifes ditching the info on the 50 redlinks in the list? Oh wait, I forgot, you are going to make stubs for those people. Let me know when you start, so I can help out. -- JJay 21:47, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Fine, we'll make them together. I have no problem with that. Antidote 23:21, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, listcruft. Pavel Vozenilek 22:11, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- Strong keep bad WP:FAITH nomination, article was nominated by user suspected of voting multiple times to delete Jewish lists, and the user has voted twice on this afd, see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Antidote/Voting, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Antidote. Arniep 02:38, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, ill-advised listcruft. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 18:58, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- Strong keep - the only grounds for deletion seem to be that nobody has bothered to produce similar lists for other ethnic groups - rotten reason. - Londoneye 19:02, 12 December 2005 (UTC)