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No sources in this article are [[WP:INDEPENDENT]] of the subject... even though some claims of notability may seem to adhere to [[WP:PROF]] guide. But a guideline cannot trump a core policy like [[WP:Notability]] which says under [[WP:NRV]]: {{tq|there must be verifiable, objective evidence that the subject has received significant attention from '''independent sources''' to support a claim of notability}}. For example, the sources used to mention being a Fellow of The Optical Society are from MIT (the subject's employer) and the OSA itself. Neither of these sources are independent of Kolodziejski, have a clear [[WP:IIS|vested interest]] in them, are [[WP:COISOURCE|promotional in nature]], and so notability is not established using them. -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 11:36, 1 May 2019 (UTC) |
No sources in this article are [[WP:INDEPENDENT]] of the subject... even though some claims of notability may seem to adhere to [[WP:PROF]] guide. But a guideline cannot trump a core policy like [[WP:Notability]] which says under [[WP:NRV]]: {{tq|there must be verifiable, objective evidence that the subject has received significant attention from '''independent sources''' to support a claim of notability}}. For example, the sources used to mention being a Fellow of The Optical Society are from MIT (the subject's employer) and the OSA itself. Neither of these sources are independent of Kolodziejski, have a clear [[WP:IIS|vested interest]] in them, are [[WP:COISOURCE|promotional in nature]], and so notability is not established using them. -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 11:36, 1 May 2019 (UTC) |
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*What a load of croc. An award is given by the conferring organisation. This is the best source for factual truth. Who in hell thinks this is about vested interest. When you consider an organisation that confers awards not reliable, go elsewhere. Thanks, [[User:GerardM|GerardM]] ([[User talk:GerardM|talk]]) 11:41, 1 May 2019 (UTC) |
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'''Speedy keep'''. Elected fellowship of this learned society is not a self-promotional activity, and the criteria are public<ref>https://www.osa.org/en-us/awards_and_grants/fellow_members/nomination_instructions/</ref>. This satisfies in itself [[WP:ACADEMIC]] but the named chairs strengthen the case to make it totally unambiguous. [[User:DWeir|DWeir]] ([[User talk:DWeir|talk]]) 11:39, 1 May 2019 (UTC) |
'''Speedy keep'''. Elected fellowship of this learned society is not a self-promotional activity, and the criteria are public<ref>https://www.osa.org/en-us/awards_and_grants/fellow_members/nomination_instructions/</ref>. This satisfies in itself [[WP:ACADEMIC]] but the named chairs strengthen the case to make it totally unambiguous. [[User:DWeir|DWeir]] ([[User talk:DWeir|talk]]) 11:39, 1 May 2019 (UTC) |
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No sources in this article are WP:INDEPENDENT of the subject... even though some claims of notability may seem to adhere to WP:PROF guide. But a guideline cannot trump a core policy like WP:Notability which says under WP:NRV: there must be verifiable, objective evidence that the subject has received significant attention from independent sources to support a claim of notability
. For example, the sources used to mention being a Fellow of The Optical Society are from MIT (the subject's employer) and the OSA itself. Neither of these sources are independent of Kolodziejski, have a clear vested interest in them, are promotional in nature, and so notability is not established using them. -- Netoholic @ 11:36, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- What a load of croc. An award is given by the conferring organisation. This is the best source for factual truth. Who in hell thinks this is about vested interest. When you consider an organisation that confers awards not reliable, go elsewhere. Thanks, GerardM (talk) 11:41, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Speedy keep. Elected fellowship of this learned society is not a self-promotional activity, and the criteria are public[1]. This satisfies in itself WP:ACADEMIC but the named chairs strengthen the case to make it totally unambiguous. DWeir (talk) 11:39, 1 May 2019 (UTC)