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Micro-denomination with perhaps nine churches as of 2014, per a self-published source (citing other self-published sources) that is no longer available online. Citations are exclusively to primary sources, to self-published sources, or to outdated sources of questionable independence and reliability. Participants in the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Faith Presbytery, Bible Presbyterian Church|2022 AfD discussion]] did not delve deeply into the validity of the sources cited as applied to [[Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)|WP:NORG]], which I will do here: |
Micro-denomination with perhaps nine churches as of 2014, per a self-published source (citing other self-published sources) that is no longer available online. Citations are exclusively to primary sources, to self-published sources, or to outdated sources of questionable independence and reliability. Participants in the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Faith Presbytery, Bible Presbyterian Church|2022 AfD discussion]] did not delve deeply into the validity of the sources cited as applied to [[Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)|WP:NORG]], which I will do here: |
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I cannot identify any other independent, secondary, reliable sources that verify the notability of this denomination. [[User:Dclemens1971|Dclemens1971]] ([[User talk:Dclemens1971|talk]]) 16:37, 15 April 2024 (UTC) |
I cannot identify any other independent, secondary, reliable sources that verify the notability of this denomination. [[User:Dclemens1971|Dclemens1971]] ([[User talk:Dclemens1971|talk]]) 16:37, 15 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:'''Comment''': An editor has updated the link in footnote 4 to a live link. [https://www.tulsachristianfellowship.com/uploads/2/3/5/1/23513522/the_church_in_america__4__the_early_twentieth_century.pdf It's here] -- it appears self-published but has no author listed. It appears impossible to validate its reliability, and moreover it only mentions the subject of the article in a single trivial mention on page 96. [[User:Dclemens1971|Dclemens1971]] ([[User talk:Dclemens1971|talk]]) 22:53, 25 April 2024 (UTC) |
:'''Comment''': An editor has updated the link in footnote 4 to a live link. [https://www.tulsachristianfellowship.com/uploads/2/3/5/1/23513522/the_church_in_america__4__the_early_twentieth_century.pdf It's here] -- it appears self-published but has no author listed. It appears impossible to validate its reliability, and moreover it only mentions the subject of the article in a single trivial mention on page 96. [[User:Dclemens1971|Dclemens1971]] ([[User talk:Dclemens1971|talk]]) 22:53, 25 April 2024 (UTC) |
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* '''Delete''': Pretty much fails notability as shown above in the source analysis; primary sources, blogs or un-RS. I don't find anything about this particular outfit. [[User:Oaktree b|Oaktree b]] ([[User talk:Oaktree b|talk]]) 19:51, 7 May 2024 (UTC) <!--VCB Oaktree b--> |
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The result was delete. BusterD (talk) 15:18, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
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Micro-denomination with perhaps nine churches as of 2014, per a self-published source (citing other self-published sources) that is no longer available online. Citations are exclusively to primary sources, to self-published sources, or to outdated sources of questionable independence and reliability. Participants in the 2022 AfD discussion did not delve deeply into the validity of the sources cited as applied to WP:NORG, which I will do here:
- [1]. Self-published source citing other self-published sources; not updated since 2014.
- [2]. Self-published book; does not illuminate notability of subject, just reference one of its views and its existence.
- [3]. Blog/opinion post; does not meet reliable source criteria for establishing notability.
- [4]. Dead link with no archived version.
- [5]. Book published by Redeeming the Time (RTT) Publications, which is the publishing arm of the subject and thus not independent of the subject.
- [6]. Portuguese-language source; cannot tell if it is self-published. Regardless, it is not significant coverage and merely notes the existence of the subject.
- [7]. OPC General Assembly minutes and thus disqualified as primary source.
- [8]. Personal blog; self-published source.
- [9] Newsletter published by Redeeming the Time (RTT) Publications, which is the publishing arm of the subject and thus not independent of the subject.
I cannot identify any other independent, secondary, reliable sources that verify the notability of this denomination. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:37, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Christianity and United States of America. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:56, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 16:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)- Comment: An editor has updated the link in footnote 4 to a live link. It's here -- it appears self-published but has no author listed. It appears impossible to validate its reliability, and moreover it only mentions the subject of the article in a single trivial mention on page 96. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:53, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 06:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 18:00, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Pretty much fails notability as shown above in the source analysis; primary sources, blogs or un-RS. I don't find anything about this particular outfit. Oaktree b (talk) 19:51, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
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