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::I would have thought [[WT:INDIA]] would have used [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/India WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/India] but it uses [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Article_alerts#AfD WikiProject_India/Article_alerts] which has a lag going to the project page, but are at least known to be in the project. [[User:StrayBolt|StrayBolt]] ([[User talk:StrayBolt|talk]]) 19:15, 20 August 2018 (UTC) |
::I would have thought [[WT:INDIA]] would have used [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/India WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/India] but it uses [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Article_alerts#AfD WikiProject_India/Article_alerts] which has a lag going to the project page, but are at least known to be in the project. [[User:StrayBolt|StrayBolt]] ([[User talk:StrayBolt|talk]]) 19:15, 20 August 2018 (UTC) |
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:::* For an example of a member who is able to translate between English and Hindi, see [[User:Vpresha]]. [[user:Andrew Davidson|Andrew D.]] ([[user talk:Andrew Davidson|talk]]) 11:35, 21 August 2018 (UTC) |
:::* For an example of a member who is able to translate between English and Hindi, see [[User:Vpresha]]. [[user:Andrew Davidson|Andrew D.]] ([[user talk:Andrew Davidson|talk]]) 11:35, 21 August 2018 (UTC) |
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:::::{{re|StrayBolt}} Meh. I'm a member of WP:JAPAN, but while I watch this list and that project's talk page, I don't watch the Japan deletion sorting, partly 'cause most of it is of next-to-no interest to me since I'm frankly not interested in getting in arguments over whether this or that obscure manga merits its own article. The kind of articles I spend my time writing hardly ever get AFDed (ironically the article under discussion was started by me back when my tastes were different and [[Paul Freedman|Wikipedia was "elementary and often wrong"]]), and I sometimes find myself questioning the motives of editors who spend time fighting to get this or that obscure manga or musical album its own en.wiki article when well over 90% of the surviving ''[[otogi-zōshi]]'' still don't have articles. All of this is to say that not posting on WT:INDIA means many India-focused editors with similar editing patterns to me will likely not notice it, and that posting here is unlikely to attract any attention, since it seems you, Andrew and I are the only editors watching this page right now. |
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:::::{{re|Andrew Davidson}} You seem to be very much scraping the bottom of the barrel there. That account has made three edits to English Wikipedia, and none to any other Wikimedia project. None of their edits implied they were actively monitoring this list even back in April when they made them (most editors with the ARS template on their page almost never contribute to AFDs posted here, for whatever reason), and the fact that you had to go back to a one-off account created and abandoned four months ago to find an example of an editor who read Hindi and was technically listed as a member of this project should set off alarms that messaging ARS is less effective than messaging WP:INDIA would be. |
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:::::[[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 13:06, 21 August 2018 (UTC) |
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- Vishnu Puran (TV series) (|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google)
This topic needs some sources but I'm not finding anything more than mentions such as this. It seems like it was big in its day so maybe there's some offline or foreign language sourcing out there. Andrew D. (talk) 12:23, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Wouldn't asking WT:INDIA be better? I don't think any Rescuers read Hindi or other Indian languages... Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 15:13, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- I would have thought WT:INDIA would have used WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/India but it uses WikiProject_India/Article_alerts which has a lag going to the project page, but are at least known to be in the project. StrayBolt (talk) 19:15, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- For an example of a member who is able to translate between English and Hindi, see User:Vpresha. Andrew D. (talk) 11:35, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- @StrayBolt: Meh. I'm a member of WP:JAPAN, but while I watch this list and that project's talk page, I don't watch the Japan deletion sorting, partly 'cause most of it is of next-to-no interest to me since I'm frankly not interested in getting in arguments over whether this or that obscure manga merits its own article. The kind of articles I spend my time writing hardly ever get AFDed (ironically the article under discussion was started by me back when my tastes were different and Wikipedia was "elementary and often wrong"), and I sometimes find myself questioning the motives of editors who spend time fighting to get this or that obscure manga or musical album its own en.wiki article when well over 90% of the surviving otogi-zōshi still don't have articles. All of this is to say that not posting on WT:INDIA means many India-focused editors with similar editing patterns to me will likely not notice it, and that posting here is unlikely to attract any attention, since it seems you, Andrew and I are the only editors watching this page right now.
- @Andrew Davidson: You seem to be very much scraping the bottom of the barrel there. That account has made three edits to English Wikipedia, and none to any other Wikimedia project. None of their edits implied they were actively monitoring this list even back in April when they made them (most editors with the ARS template on their page almost never contribute to AFDs posted here, for whatever reason), and the fact that you had to go back to a one-off account created and abandoned four months ago to find an example of an editor who read Hindi and was technically listed as a member of this project should set off alarms that messaging ARS is less effective than messaging WP:INDIA would be.
- Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 13:06, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- I would have thought WT:INDIA would have used WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/India but it uses WikiProject_India/Article_alerts which has a lag going to the project page, but are at least known to be in the project. StrayBolt (talk) 19:15, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
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- List of giant animals in fiction (|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google)
"We're going to need bigger guns!" and "...a bigger boat!". Andrew D. (talk) 18:41, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
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- Comedy in the Philippines (|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google)
This has to be an important topic, but I don't have the language skills or cultural knowledge to adequately fix it. It's currently orphaned, unreferenced, opinionated and difficult to read. Might anyone on here be able to help it out? I've cross-posted to Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines. › Mortee talk 00:17, 7 August 2018 (UTC) › Mortee talk 00:17, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
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- List of Presidents of the United States with facial hair (|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
While some have contended that this is trivia, it is a well-written article on a well-sourced topic. Perhaps this is why the article has survived several prior challenges at AfD. As for ideas for improvement, perhaps the many sources in the article (and other sources as well) could be used to expand the text. I believe this has Featured List potential. Lepricavark (talk) 15:10, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- "The result was keep… The key - and only relevant - question that had to be discussed here was: Is this a notable topic for a stand-alone list per WP:LISTN In this regard, it took a few days before the first !voter (Cunard) provided significant amount of sources to argue in favor of notability. Once sources were provided and the discussion focused more on notability and less on whether this is a trivial topic for inclusion, the consensus shifted notably towards agreeing that facial hair in American politics is a notable encyclopeic topic that received significant coverage in a lot of reliable sources… In the end, this discussion did not noticeably add new information compared to the four previous discussions and as such a new nomination will have to demonstrate that the topic is non-notable to not be considered disruptive. This discussion has shown that people on both sides are not opposed to creating a more inclusive page that deals with facial hair and its impact on American politics in general and creating such a page and then merging this list to it seems a possible way forward that should be discussed in earnest. Regards SoWhy 16:03, 11 August 2018 (UTC)" (edited)
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- List of emergency telephone numbers (|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
- "Emergency. Which service do you require?" ... "Article rescue!" Andrew D. (talk) 18:10, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- The main debate issues are WP:NOTYELLOW and the reliability of the data. StrayBolt (talk) 19:34, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Andrew Davidson: You're slipping back into the old habits I thought I had talked you out of back in February. Please follow the guidelines at the top of this page by providing a valid rationale for keeping the page, and ideas for how to improve it, not joke-y comments like the above and
"BY THE LEFT - DOUBLE - MARCH!"
that essentially amount to "Here's the AFD: you know what to do..." Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 10:46, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Andrew Davidson: You're slipping back into the old habits I thought I had talked you out of back in February. Please follow the guidelines at the top of this page by providing a valid rationale for keeping the page, and ideas for how to improve it, not joke-y comments like the above and
- The main debate issues are WP:NOTYELLOW and the reliability of the data. StrayBolt (talk) 19:34, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- "The result was speedy keep. It's snowing.Whilst it might technically violate elements of NOTDIRECTORY, common-sense ought to prevail. (non-admin closure) ∯WBGconverse 13:21, 23 July 2018 (UTC)" — Preceding unsigned comment added by StrayBolt (talk • contribs) 16:25, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
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- Drill commands (|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
"BY THE LEFT - DOUBLE - MARCH!" Andrew D. (talk) 22:55, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
- "The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn by the nominator. In addition to the withdrawal, there is a consensus that the article should be improved rather than deleted, to be suitable enough for inclusion per the standards of Wikipedia. Unsourced content shouldn't be added back without reliable sources and such additions should be dealt with via the usual methods (revert, warning, block, etc). (non-admin closure) The editor whose username is Z0 10:36, 22 July 2018 (UTC)"
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- Older people's associations (|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
This seems to be a topic with much potential. Andrew D. (talk) 21:45, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- "The result was no consensus. There are good arguments on both sides of the debate. The only consensus that I can discern is that the article needs significant work. No prejudice against taking this to AfD again if improvement (and good sources!) is not forthcoming in, say, another 6 months. Randykitty (talk) 11:05, 7 August 2018 (UTC)" — Preceding unsigned comment added by StrayBolt (talk • contribs) 15:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
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- The Magic of Thinking Big (|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
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- Note: removed "(motivational writer)" from above search
- David J. Schwartz (motivational writer) (|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
Thinking big here with two nominations, the 1959 motivational book (latest english reprint in 2015) and the professor of marketing author. Much of the articles' promotional past versions text has been removed, but it still needs more WP:RS. As one editor wrote, "thats enough unreliable sources for now". StrayBolt (talk) 19:03, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
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- Annie LeBlanc (entertainer) (|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
Current version seems too promotional or fan-like. Content sourced to gossip sites needs to be removed. I think there may be a case for notability based on Billboard charts, awards/nominations, acting roles, and YouTube following...but this may be hidden by the tone and superfluous information. Thsmi002 (talk) 12:04, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
"The result was keep. (non-admin closure) wumbolo ^^^ 20:43, 16 July 2018 (UTC)" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thsmi002 (talk • contribs) 11:29, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
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- Feminist rhetoric (|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
An understanding of rhetoric is useful on Wikipedia as there are numerous discussions and debates. What's being asked for in this case is an extensive rewrite of the topic. Andrew D. (talk) 14:19, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
- An article on the path to snow keep, for which only the nominator (who probably just hasn't got around to withdrawing the nomination) is currently arguing for deletion against unanimous opposition; why is it necessary to post this on the "rescue list"? I know that the supposed purpose of this project is to improve articles where the problems are something that can be addressed that way, but it is not actually used that way, and it seems that only one or two people apart from Andrew and myself (who were both already aware of the AFD) are actually watching this list, so what could come of posting here escapes me. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 00:00, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
"The result was keep. Sandstein 09:57, 6 July 2018 (UTC)"
- Sources: 1 removed, 1 added of 19; 19,043 -> 15,672 bytes; Changes; no Delete votes; WP:NOTCLEANUP StrayBolt (talk) 17:00, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
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- Courtesy call (|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
There is much need for good information about etiquette. "Manners maketh man"... Andrew D. (talk) 23:45, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
"The result was keep. Enigmamsg 18:43, 26 June 2018 (UTC)"
- Sources added 0 -> 9; Size 1,321 -> 5,854 bytes; @Icewhiz: with the most additions; 2 deletes were reversed after improvements. StrayBolt (talk) 23:02, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
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- Greasy pole (|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
It's an amusing analogy for Wikipedia which can be quite Sisyphusian. There seem to be many variations in many places and so there's good scope to improve this and so prevent the contributions from slipping all the way to the bottom. Andrew D. (talk) 18:55, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
"The result was keep. Since it was brought up, there was no consensus for a rename here, but that conversation can take place on the talk page. Good suggestions for improvement in the discussion. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 01:16, 24 June 2018 (UTC)"
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- Puzzle Puppers (|talk|history|links|watch|logs|google) AfD discussion
I'd like some help finding additional references for this article, and to expand it if possible. Dream Focus 16:56, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
- I added Metacritic which has 4 reviews, of which 2 you have already used. StrayBolt (talk) 01:56, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
"The result was keep. No one except nominator supports deletion. Shutting this down also to prevent more personal discussion. Drmies (talk) 20:36, 16 June 2018 (UTC)"
- Sources added; Size 2,192 -> 5,714 bytes (161% increase); @Sergecross73: with the most additions; 2 deletes were struck after improvements. StrayBolt (talk) 03:23, 17 June 2018 (UTC)