Onceinawhile
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Request concerning Onceinawhile
- User who is submitting this request for enforcement
- Shrike (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 20:11, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
- User against whom enforcement is requested
- Onceinawhile (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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- Sanction or remedy to be enforced
- Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel_articles#General_1RR_restriction :
- Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
- 27 Oct 2018 First introduction of text.
- 02 Nov 2018 Revert after text [1] was removed not waiting 24h
- Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any
- If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts)
- Participated in an arbitration request or enforcement procedure about the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on [2].
- Additional comments by editor filing complaint
- The provision in question is pretty clear
If an edit is reverted by another editor, its original author may not restore it within 24 hours of the first revert made to their edit.
.It was violated - Also there is an issue of WP:OR most of the edits by this user including this diffs doesn't even mention the neologism that is topic of the article including diff in question.It was clearly done to WP:POVPUSH and constitute WP:TE.If admins interested I could provide additional diffs that user use sources that don't mention the neologism. --20:11, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
@Power~enwiki: Because only they broken the provision its his revert that violated our polices and started the edit war.Had he waited 24H and discuss this wouldn't happened --Shrike (talk) 20:21, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
- Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested
[3] --Shrike (talk) 20:13, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Discussion concerning Onceinawhile
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Statement by Onceinawhile
I was not aware of the change in the rules. The banner was changed in a subtle but important way in May this year, ostensibly to clarify that the 24-hour rule for new edits applies from the point of the revert, not from the point of the original edit. I now see the change at ARBPIA took place even earlier than this, but it was not put on the banner until May this year. No-one ever notified me of these changes to ARBPIA, and I don't have the banner on my watchlist. I am not sure how I am supposed to keep up with these changes, but I apologize for not doing so.
If I had been informed of the rule, I would have immediately self-reverted. I would like to make a show of good faith now, but I am not sure how I can. The only evidence I can offer is that that revert was my last edit to the page, and I did not participate in the ensuing edit war. I made 20 edits to the talk page instead.
As to powerenwiki's comments, the nominator's subsequent participation in what had by then become a classic edit war puzzled me, because he and I had reasonably constructive set of discussions during the prior week on the article talk page, with no suggestion that he objected to the 5,622 bytes of information now in question, and also because he made no subsequent talk page contribution to justify his change of heart.
Onceinawhile (talk) 20:59, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
- One reflection on the rule - it starts "If an edit is reverted". Is the word "edit" supposed to capture new content as well as changes to existing content? I have been thinking about what the rationale might have been for this new rule; I presume that the spirit of the new rule related to the age-old problem of identifying which was the "first revert". I had never imagined that the addition of new content to a new article could be considered as a "first revert". It all seems very strange to me, but I commit to ensure full compliance going forward. Onceinawhile (talk) 21:31, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Statement by power~enwiki
I see at least 6 different editors edit-warring over this change. Why is this the only editor that should be subject to Discretionary Sanctions? power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:16, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
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Result concerning Onceinawhile
- This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.
- I accept Onceinawhile's submission that, wrongly, they did not think ARBPIA § General 1RR Restriction is counted from the most recent revert – rather than from their own last edit. Nevertheless, as power~enwiki noted, Enclave law was in the throes of an edit war. Onceinawhile contributed to disruption of this article when they reverted. An enforcement sanction therefore appears unavoidable to me. I am topic-banning Onceinawhile, for 3 months, from pages related to the Arab-Israeli conflict.
power~enwiki's broader point is unconvincing: this noticeboard cannot decline to enforce because "A was bad, but B and C were too." Given the topic areas we typically see here, many enforcement requests would need declining if enforcing administrators took that approach. AGK ■ 21:54, 2 November 2018 (UTC)