E.M.Gregory
E.M.Gregory is topic-banned (WP:TBAN) from editing anything related both to living persons and the politics of Venezuela for three months. Sandstein 07:36, 8 August 2017 (UTC) |
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After his and my third reversions, I left a third message for E.M.Gregory, explaining that one does not add or restore poorly sourced garbage to BLPs and then "improve the sourcing"; one fixes the sourcing and then adds or restores the material. I also asked that he self-revert to avoid this filing. Obviously, he refused to do so. Although he will argue that he is a new editor who wasn't aware of the rules, E.M.Gregory has been editing Wikipedia for nearly three years and has made more than 25,000 edits, of which roughly 14% have been to BLPs. No, he is not unaware of the rules, he is willfully ignorant of the rules. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 04:57, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
Discussion concerning E.M.GregoryStatements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Statement by E.M.GregoryContext here is that Malik Shabazz and I disagree and have interacted about I/P, Islamist terrorism, and many other political issues. Recently, we have locked horns in a series of AfD discussions regarding terrorist attacks. Another bit of context is that Klein had made defending and admiring Hugo Chavez's and his program for Venezuela as a new path to a bright future a major part of her career. Commentators such as Terence Corcoran who have disagreed with Klein on Venezuela since she spoke glowingly of his repression of the media in 2003 have been beating up on her all year as the Venezuelan economy collapses. Corcoran's January 2017 article "Terence Corcoran: Chavez’s Canadian fan club is awfully quiet about Venezuela’s utter meltdown", which ran over a photo of Klein, [1] is one of many articles I could have added to support the assertion that I had started with, then removed, that Klein's praise of Chavez has been "fulsome" and that it is noteworthy. I was shocked when Malik Shabazz responded to my first, brief addition to to Naomi Klein. The edit was sourced to an by James Kirchick entitled " "Remember all those left-wing pundits who drooled over Venezuela?"" using Klein as his leading example and quoting her statements in detail. I responded on my talk page: "Sourcing a section to bluelinked commentators citing direct quotes from Klein is not POV-pushing. Here: is the edit: [4]. However, I will enhance the sourcing.E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:11, 4 August 2017 (UTC)" "For the curious, this is an editor objecting to adding a section to Naomi Klein discussing her long-standing promotion of Venezuela (a country where the economy has collapsed, the government is close to collapse, and the conditions of life are plummeting to appalling depths,) as a shining model of the great success of a new model 21st century socialism.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:53, 4 August 2017 (UTC)" and next made a rapid series of edits improving section on Venezuela that I had added ot her page, a section that I had placed in chronological order between sections on Klein's opinions about the Iraq War and Israel. My edit notes read: (Undid revision 793862330 by MShabazz (talk) expanding sourcing, but these are well-known columnists giving direct quotes, also one of the sources is Klein's own statement) (Undid revision 793864118 by MShabazz (talk) as I said before, enhancing sourcing now.) (→Venezuela: expand, source), (→Venezuela: tidy up), (→Venezuela: expand, tweak, source), (→Venezuela: 2nd source, Robert Fulford (journalist) book review), (→Venezuela: tweak), (→Venezuela: tweak), (→Venezuela: grammar), (→Venezuela: typo). I then returned ot my talk page and responded to Shabazz: "*Venezuela section cleaned-up, sourced. Certainly a significant part of her ouvre and a useful addtion to her page. Feel free to expand or tweak.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:47, 4 August 2017 (UTC)" I believed that with this last edit I was signalling to Malik Shabazz that I was finished editing the Naomi Klein page. Then he started this discussion.E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:25, 6 August 2017 (UTC) I do acknowledge that I lost my cool here. I made a careless, hasty edit, lost it when my hasty edit was immediately pounced upon by Malik Shabazz, then totally lost my cool when he was seconded by GracefulSlick, and Nishidani. And as I said, I lost it in my first two responses here.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:13, 7 August 2017 (UTC) Responding to comments by GracefulSlick
Statement by NorthBySouthBaranofThis seems a pretty clear-cut issue; while opinion columns may be reliable sources for attributed opinions of the columnist, if relevant, they are absolutely not to be used for encyclopedia-voice statements of fact about living people. To the extent E.M. Gregory has violated this rule (and it can hardly be said to be an accidental mistake), they need to be, at the least, admonished about their use of sourcing in a biography. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 08:01, 5 August 2017 (UTC) Statement by KingsindianThis probably reflects poor practice rather than anything else. One can separate out two things. Klein has made favorable statements about Chavez. This is not in doubt. How one should describe the matter, should be decided by NPOV. Clearly, the original phrasing "noted for her fulsome praise of the Venezuelan dictator" rather badly fails NPOV. The current phrasing in the article is a bit better, but basically all it's doing is to take the statements from the op-ed piece, softening them a bit, and then Googling for supporting evidence. This kind of stuff is actually bad practice for NPOV: one is supposed to look at a broad array of sources and summarize it, not simply Google for things which one wants to add into Wikipedia. But I see this all the time, and I doubt it can be cured, or if it is even desirable. Perhaps I'm too cynical. I don't think this is a BLP issue as such. I would treat it like an NPOV issue. As such I don't think any sanctions are warranted. Perhaps a warning. Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 08:54, 5 August 2017 (UTC) Statement by MarkBernsteinThough @NorthBySouthBaranof: is correct that opinion pieces can be useful and reliable sources for the opinion expressed by their author, it is my understanding that they may also be used as a source for an assertion of fact. For example, if a New Yorker Talk of the Town quoted a cab driver as saying, “LaGuardia is a bum!” that’s not a reliable source for stating that LaGuardia is a bum; it's just an opinion. But if the same piece asserted that midtown cabdrivers typically worked 48 hours a week and that many were members of Teamsters’ Local 666, these would be reliably sourced since (a) they are facts, not partisan opinions, and (b) they can be checked, and the reputation of The New Yorker assures us that they would have been checked. It is increasingly common for newly-recruited editors (and sock puppets) to claim that all current mainstream sources are inherently biased, and that all bylined reporters are partisan, and therefore cannot be used even for sourcing facts. MarkBernstein (talk) 14:56, 5 August 2017 (UTC) NishidaniI'm only commenting because I thought, after Colin Powell was roasted for using the word 'fulsome' not in its primary sense of 'offensive to good taste' but in its more recent sense of 'abundant', journos would be more careful. The edits reversed are of course attack dumping by opening up sections to list badmouthing comments about any ('leftist') controversialist. On an encyclopedia, and BLPs, one should spend energy on (a) outlining precisely what the person thinks, and then (b) what intelligent critics say in response. This is usually not done: one trawls for 'fulsome' praise or 'dirt' so that readers are swamped with haphazard 'opinions' that are as useless as tits on a bull. This is getting characteristic of too much editing on bios, Gregory. The next logical move would be to go sequentially to the pages on Ken Livingstone, Ken Loach, Jesse Jackson, Howard Zinn, Dennis Kucinich, Perry Anderson, Tony Benn, Eric Hobsbawm, Alexander Cockburn, Tariq Ali, Oliver Stone, Harold Pinter etc., etc., and note some commentator abhorring the fact that each 'praised' Chavez (or his programmes) or on one of his presidential bids. ('dictator' is opinionable: he was elected etc.) So what? What were they praising about Chavez's programme? Futile, irresponsible and uninformative. Nishidani (talk) 13:37, 6 August 2017 (UTC) Statement by TheGracefulSlickI wanted to present to this case more incidents of Gregory violating BLP and POV to avoid the misconception that this is a secluded incident. Here at this discussion Gregory advocated for a version of an article that uses WP:SYNTH and WP:OR to seemingly attempt to override a ruling of not guilty by a Swedish court of law, regarding a BLP subject. Further below he supported the inclusion of the opinion from a filmmaker, despite concerns about its authenticity and the fact the video interview (where the quotes originated from) never actually addressed the incident in question. At this AfD Gregory, again, wanted to retain an article and use sources to insinuate the guilt of innocent men. Worse still, when the AfD was not going in his favor, he included the material with WP:UNDUE weight at the Lars Vilks article (twice), knowing consensus at the AfD was the incident was not terror related, and any mention of the non-plot needed to be brief as well as neutrally phrased.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 02:36, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
Statement by JytdogAm bummed to see this. E.M.Gregory you are probably correct that there is a hole where content about Chavez should be in the Klein article, but the initial edit, sourcing it on an op-ed piece attacking her is just... not good.... And then the expansion using more content from the same source and adding an additional opinion piece that was also critical of her --Venezuela’s collapse and the ‘useful idiots’ of the Canadian left -- just dug that hole deeper.. especially when your editing had already been flagged as a BLP issue. Granted from someone you have had past disputes with, but you have no leg here. Even more so because of the immediate clash, which should have caused you to rethink. If you were aiming for NPOV content based on strong sourcing you would have taken a very different approach. One would have been to to very clearly WP:ATTRIBUTE and use the Kirchick and Macleans opinion pieces to describe criticism, and cite... oh Socialist Review and Daily Kos to provide content and refs for further reading for how people on her "side" view her support for Chavez. And cite something from her maybe, like this Nation piece. Best of all would have been to avoid either kind of partisan source and look for high quality reporting (not opinion) discussing Klein's views. Which is hard to find (not in NYT, New Yorker, or Atlantic for example). this book reveiw is not terrible and probably would not have drawn the initial revert... it also provides enough discussion of how Chavez fits into the rest of her thinking about the world, that you could have written some more nuanced content instead of just sticking an inflammatory factoid into the article. But please step back and consider that your initial approach as well as your subsequent restorations were coming at this the wrong way. It is hard to write about this stuff and the BLP DS are there for a reason. Please. If you cannot see this and acknowledge it I can only support some action being taken. Jytdog (talk) 20:26, 7 August 2017 (UTC) Statement by (username)Result concerning E.M.Gregory
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Nishidani
Page protected for three days to give the talk page a chance. If disruption continues once protection express, please let me know or bring it back here. GoldenRing (talk) 17:50, 9 August 2017 (UTC) |
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It has long been established that waiting 24 hours + a couple more does not put an editor outside the 1RR restriction, particularly if done multiple times on the same page. It's an obvious attempt to game the system. Nishidani has been blocked many times for edit warring and has recently returned from a one month topic ban. He is fully aware of this restriction and violates it repeatedly. I was going to give him a chance to self-revert, but then noticed he did the same thing a couple of days prior (not to mention I was not awarded the courtesy of a warning and still got blocked for 1RR, so it's obviously no longer considered part of the informal etiquette here). There are two other editors who participated in this edit war who I'm not reporting here:
@KI: Clearly Nishidani was trying to game 1RR, twice in 4 days. In fact, between the last two reverts he actually made another edit a few hours earlier [4], which was within the 24 hours restriction, then came back a few hours later to make the revert. Obvious gaming is obvious. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 05:45, 9 August 2017 (UTC) @Goldenring: Are you saying 24+2 hours (twice in a few days) is not a 1RR violation? Because people with waaaay cleaner records than Nishidani have received lengthy topic bans for exactly that. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 16:01, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
Discussion concerning NishidaniStatements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Statement by NishidaniNice morning greeting on my page. I can't see how I broke 1R- I noted to the edit-warrior they had, but didn't report it, trying to reason. If I have broken 1R I'll revert of course, but at a glance, NMMGG is looking at the page edit conflict purely in terms of what I do, not the context, nor the, to me, incomprehensible edit behavior of the other party. I must to breakfast, and will examine this later.Nishidani (talk) 07:38, 9 August 2017 (UTC) I know the 2000 Ramallah Lynching case fairly thoroughly, but have never been able to help ironing out the many defects there because it is one of those I/P pages where, if you touch it, you get edit-warring by people who read one or two sources, and try to 'fix' the lead according to their preferred POV. At first I noticed just a grammatical flaw in François Robere’s edit. Since doing the edits on aborigines requires huge amounts of close background reading, I didn’t have much time to do anything but elementary fixes here.
NMMGG’s 3 edits to the page when he stepped in on the 8th, did not alter the grammar ce I had introduced, so I took this version of the page as he left it, as indicating his acceptance that the consecutio temporum issue I fixed had a 3 to 1 consensus. Notwithstanding that, Robere insisted on reverting to his preferred ungrammatical version, reverting even NMMGG on this (to me, crucial point), adding that the PA police role is still disputed (well, no source was given for this, just as NMMGG gave no source, indeed contradicted the article, in plunking into the lead the unacceptable:
NMMGG’s response was to accuse me of being the edit-warrior and threatening AE action if I didn’t revert, while acknowledging technically I hadn’t broken 1R (as had François Robere) (23:41, 8 August 2017) NMMGG over several years has a quasi professional interest in anylysing the minutiae of every edit I make since he is convinced I am a major disgrace to wikipedia. He should know after several years that we are on different time zones and that when he made that warning I had been inactive for 2 hours, and when he made this AE complaint, there was no trace of my being online. I was sleeping. He waited 2 hours and then 01:25, 9 August 2017 notified me he had reported me. Please note that NMMGG then, a few minutes later, notified Robere that he had broken 1R unambiguously 5 days earlier, offering assistance. Very very odd, since, as noted above, NMMGG had stepped into the fray, fully aware that Robere had been notified 5 days earlier by myself and Huldra, both of us taking no action against him. In short, double standards. NMMGG has a very low wiki profile, except to step in to disputes, esp. when I am present. Look at his contributions. Nishidani (talk) 11:40, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
Statement by HuldraI reverted François Robere after discussing with him on his talk page, telling him that he broke the 1RR rule. See User talk:François Robere. He refused to self revert, it didn't look as if he believed me, when qouted the rules. I reverted instead of taking the bother to report him. I promise: in the future I will just report him to AE instead.
Oops, my apologies, No More Mr Nice Guy has indeed edited the 2000 Ramallah lynching article before (I have no idea as to how I missed that.) For me the choice was either to
I chose the second, as I hate all the bureaucracy of reporting other users. Apparently I should just have reported him. Noted. Huldra (talk) 03:31, 9 August 2017 (UTC) Statement by KingsindianClearly, there was no 1RR violation by Nishidani. There is some edit-warring by various sides going on. There is a long discussion going on at the talkpage where people are arguing various points. It's a bit heated, but no more than other discussions in this area. There have been compromises by people: for instance, see this edit by Nishidani which uses "accidentally" with attribution in the body. On the other side, after NMMNG made this wrong edit, Francois Robere rephrased it here. I suggest full protection for a few days while the matter is sorted out on the talkpage. No other action is necessary. Francois Robere broke 1RR and refused to revert, but they're new in this area, so they should be warned and not sanctioned. Francois Robere thinks that invoking the 1RR rule is "lawfare"; it's not, it's simply one of the rules in this area to slow down edit wars and make people discuss on the talkpage. Indeed, Robere only started discussion on the talkpage after Huldra reverted them. NMMNG's actions here are deeply cynical. They claim that they reported Nishidani to AE because giving people a chance to self-revert is no longer considered part of informal etiquette here; this claim in a situation where it was Nishidani and Huldra asked Francois Robere to self-revert but they refused, is rather baffling. NMMNG is just importing a dispute with another editor into this one for reasons best known to themselves. I hope the norm in this area of people warning other people who break 1RR is maintained. Most people working in this area are "old hands". We don't need silly wars of attrition here. Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 04:37, 9 August 2017 (UTC) Statement by Shrike
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Statement by NableezyIt was not "generous" of NMMNG to not report Francois Robere, it was calculated. Calculated to advance his editorial goals. There is exactly one person who violated the 1RR here, and it isnt Nishidani. That said, full protection seems the way to go here, with the version prior to any edit-warring locked in place and the "edit-warriors" locked on the talk page to achieve some sort of consensus. nableezy - 16:47, 9 August 2017 (UTC) Result concerning Nishidani
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Wickey-nl
Blocked for three months for TBAN violations. GoldenRing (talk) 16:12, 9 August 2017 (UTC) |
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User who was indefinitely topic banned from ARBPIA and insulted the administrator who imposed the sanction with antisemitic and racist slurs has violated his ban (despite it doesn't say in his talk page that it was lifted):
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Wuerzele
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- Kingofaces43 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 19:52, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
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- Wuerzele (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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- Sanction or remedy to be enforced
- Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Genetically_modified_organisms#Wuerzele_topic_banned :
- Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
- Aug 3 Editing article within topic ban.
- Aug 3 Edit warring previous content back after seeing their content was removed (with the edit summary notice).
- Aug 11 Combative talk page comments after WP:GOODFAITH reminder of ban rather than coming straight here.
- Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any
- Sept 2015 Blocked by Bbb23 for edit warring in GMO topics
- Dec 2015 Topic-banned in GMO and pesticide topics by ArbCom
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This is a bit of an odd case. Wuerzele was one of the more problematic editors in GMO and pesticide topics, and was topic-banned in the initial ArbCom case. They violated their topic ban awhile ago, but that AE was closed by EdJohnston because Wuerezele immediately stopped editing for a few days once the report was made and didn't respond to the AE. The close also included a note that the case could be reopened if Wuerzele returned and issues were still coming up.
The diffs above are another set of topic ban violations. They came to Fipronil, an insecticide page which unambiguously falls within the topic ban, and started making edits. I reverted reminding them that they are topic banned, only to have them edit war the content they inserted back in. I also left a reminder at their talk page about the topic ban and that I was assuming they had forgotten rather than me filing an AE case (probably should have come here instead due to the edit warring in retrospect instead of the good faith assumption).
At this point, they stop editing for a few days immediately after they were called out on their topic ban again, just like the previous AE, so no case was filed until this weekend when they responded to my talk page notice rather vehemently (rather than deleting it due to their ban as I pointed out). I originally was going to let this slide as I mentioned on their talk page, but Wuerzele was topic banned in large part due to battleground behavior focused towards myself and a few others in the topic that's rearing its head in their comments. We also have a trend of Wuerzele avoiding administrative action by not editing for a few days after a topic ban violation, so I figured even if an admin wants to call this stale, it's better to have a continued record for future reference with the last AE in mind. Kingofaces43 (talk) 19:52, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
- Just a note Drmies on the WP:NOBAN related comment, but that specifically excludes administrative notices due to noticeboards, etc. I made it clear to Wuerzele they would have been getting an AE notice instead if I hadn't initially gone the good-faith route and renotified them of their topic ban just in case. The complaint at the talk page is rather silly in that sense given the then other option, but that kind of battleground escalation is why the topic ban was put in place. Had I posted more than what I did, that definitely would have gone outside the spirit of WP:NOBAN. Kingofaces43 (talk) 05:21, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
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Statement by Doc James
They have been an abrasive editor.[13] They have been involved with edit warring [14]. I feel this is a wider concern than just the breach of their restriction. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:35, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
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- These look like pretty obvious tban violations to me. @Wuerzele: do you have any explanation for these edits? GoldenRing (talk) 09:21, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
- How long do we leave this open for? According to X!, this user is usually very active on Sundays and weekdays ([15]) yet they've disappeared since Saturday, when all this blew up. It's looking increasingly like a duck-and-dive to avoid sanctions. @Wuerzele: If we don't hear back in 48 hours from now, at least with some idea when you'll be able to respond fully, I intend to take action on this. GoldenRing (talk) 09:21, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- I agree with GoldenRing. I might could let that talk page comment slide--perhaps they did ban Kingofaces from their talk page, and on one's own talk page one typically gets some leeway, but a topic ban violation is a topic ban violation. Wuerzele, much will depend on your answer here. Drmies (talk) 16:30, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
- GoldenRing, do it. As far as I'm concerned 24 hours is enough. Drmies (talk) 15:06, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- Kingofaces, I think you misunderstood me: I have no quarrel with you or your notification; my point was about their response. Please note, BTW, how cleverly I let us have our cake and eat it too. :) We do need Wuerzele to respond quickly or things will end up poorly for them. Drmies (talk) 15:23, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
Twitbookspacetube
Twitbookspacetube is topic-banned from all American politics-related WP:BLP content for three months. This is without prejudice to any additional block another admin may want to apply. Sandstein 21:08, 15 August 2017 (UTC) |
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No previous sanctions I can find.
This article is about a current event in which someone drove a car into a crowd. I removed the name of the driver from the article on WP:BLPCRIME grounds, as he is not well-known and (obviously, having been charged in the past couple of days) has not yet been convicted of a crime. Rather than start a discussion on re-inclusion, User:WWGB reverted the removal on the grounds that it is well-sourced. I removed the material again, again citing BLPCRIME, and started a discussion on the article talk page. Thirty-seven minutes later, Twitbookspacetube reverted the removal again, citing the talk page discussion as consensus (four editors had commented, admittedly all for inclusion). We've since had another revert-cycle. Twitbookspacetube saw fit to report me to ANEW (closed by User:El_C as no-violation) and has complained, among other things, that I pinged him when replying to him (a grave offence, apparently) and of bludgeoning the discussion (see edit summaries of the diffs above) when I have made two comments on the talk page, one of which opened the discussion. I requested at his talk page that he self-revert to let the discussion run its course and was told that I was gaming the system. I ummed-and-ahhed about just blocking on BLP-violation grounds, but considering the talk page discussion is ongoing and I could be argued to be involved, brought it here instead.
Discussion concerning TwitbookspacetubeStatements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Statement by TwitbookspacetubeWP:FORUMSHOPPING and WP:BLUDGEONING at it's finest - the content that the filer is removing was in the article unchallenged until they came along with a WP:BLUDGEON and tried to beat down people that disagree with their removal of sourced content using a blatant misinterpretation of the relevant policy. TL:DR: Facepalm Twitbookspacetube 13:13, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
Statement by ShrikeI am uninvolved but this caught my attention [26] I am not sure that such WP:ASPERSIONS casting is suitable for Wikipedia collaborative envoirment--Shrike (talk) 14:11, 14 August 2017 (UTC) Statement by MjolnirPantsI'm in a similar situation to Shrike in that I happened to stumble across this issue.
Comment by involved A Quest for KnowledgeI just wanted to say that while I don't agree with GoldenRing's interpetation of WP:BLP in this particular instance, to the best of my knowledge, their objection is in good faith. Once an editor has raised a good-faith BLP objection, other editors should not be edit-warring contentious BLP material into an article without consensus. I'll also add that the diff that Shrike posted[27] is very troubling. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 14:44, 14 August 2017 (UTC) Statement by (username)Result concerning Twitbookspacetube
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The Diaz
No action. User:The Diaz is reminded not to edit war, but of the diffs presented, those that are even broadly problematic are quite stale. GoldenRing (talk) 17:17, 15 August 2017 (UTC) |
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Per their edit count this account made its first edit Jun 17, 2016 and has about 1000 edits. They concentrate overwhelmingly on matters of nationality, race, murders, etc. which fall at the intersection of the US politics and BLP discretionary sanctions. They appear to have difficulty understanding basic principles of editing in such loaded topics, and the persistent bringing up of legal threats is especially unhelpful and in general it is not clear to me if they are here to build an encyclopedia.
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