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Deliberate incivility on the Prem Rawat article talk page. Describing other editors in a derogatory fashion. Example "Having said that, if Jossi & friends (sounds like a Saturday morning puppet show, just an observation)" [1].Momento (talk) 21:51, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
This single purpose, probable sock needs to stop pushing conspiracy theories and citing non-reliable sources in the realm of 9/11 articles under probation. Check the edit history for Tony0937 (talk · contribs) and the problem will be very evident. Jehochman Talk 23:12, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
- Are there any specific diffs that we should look into? Please make it easier on admins monitoring this noticeboard. Thanks. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 23:24, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Looks like a SPA to me. Thoughts? Did you notify the user? — Rlevse • Talk • 01:16, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- Just so. Thanks for the reminder, I have notified them now. [2]. We really do not need single purpose accounts adding to the 9/11 battles. I am requesting a review of this user's contributions, in total, and appropriate administrative action, such as formal notice and warning about WP:ARB9/11 sanctions. We should also consider the possibility that this account may be related to a topic banned user. Jehochman Talk 08:05, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- I have no problem with anyone looking at my edits. I have endeavored to be polite and accurate and have not limited myself to only 9-11 although that is indeed my area of interest. I recognize that I am not perfect an I am open to logical criticism. If you have problems with my editing I would like to know what I can do to to be a better editor.Tony0937 (talk) 16:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
The Northern Ireland Troubles
I feel I need to apologise in advance for raising this most contentious of subjects again but I have genuine concerns. As a relatively new editor I was soon made aware of the problems which had gone before and resulted in an ArbCom decision on the Troubles and I can see why that was necessary. Although it isn't a subject of much interest to me I have noted far too much edit-warring and apparant "ownership" of articles being asserted to ensure that the modern history of Ireland (and particularly Northern Ireland) is kept with a particular slant. That bias is maintained with weasel words and an undue weight being applied to particular opinions. In my case this led to a baptism of fire because my first edits on Wikipedia were at the Ulster Defence Regiment article and as a complete novice I was bombarded with policy and convention notices, received two bans for edit-warring, which shocked me but very quickly taught me how to avoid it. To illustrate my concerns I have stepped outside my area of interest (which is military history) to edit an article at The Troubles and although I haven't added as many weasel captions as I feel I should because of the fear of totally vandalising the article, I've left enough there to show any reader why the article doesn't reflect the verifiable history of that period. There appears to be an unofficial cabal at work on Wikipedia whose motives are to keep ownership of articles related to the troubles. They apply various tactics which are in the guise of enforcing policies laid down by the site. This includes tag teaming to force the unwary into edit-wars, terrible incivility, policy pushing in the extreme (well beyond what is necessary), accusations of conflict of interest, outing and more. I've been subject to all of these and I'm now noting a number of other posters in the same genre getting the same. I do accept that as (still) a relative newcomer, there is much I don't know but I do have a certain pride in my intelligence and perception. My "unfairness" radar is working overtime. My work here is an excellent reflection of what's happening however. If any admin takes a look at what I have managed to achieve and note the one area where I've had problems I think it would be immediately apparant that there is an issue which needs to be addressed. I've sought advice and some admins and editors think this could be addressed by the existing ArbCom decision. I don't want to be a crusader. Nor do I want to spend my time on Wikipedia doing nothing except reporting violations of ArbCom. I want to be able to contribute sensibly and constructively. I've brought this matter to the attention of this board because of genuine concerns and I hope that something can be done to resolve it. IMO if it's not, then Wikipedia will not be able to achieve a high status rating as a true encyclopedic source of information on the internet.GDD1000 (talk) 10:45, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- A very interesting picture has just been painted, however it fails to identify the real problem. Time after time policy has been explained to this editor, a previous ArbCom enforcement request about this editor was ignored on the grounds he is "new", yet the problems still continue. This is not a problem with Troubles related articles as such, this is a problem with this particular editor. To demonstrate this, let's take an article he's been working on that is nothing to do with the Troubles - 7th Queen's Own Hussars. First off let's look at this completely unsourced large addition, now doesn't wording like "There were countless acts of heroism by the 7th in the face of the inhumanity of the Japanese" jump out as problematic, even ignoring the lack of sources? Luckily, a source was added in the next edit, but the source only proves that the previous addition was a copy and paste copyright violation. There were subsequent token amendments made to the history (including the removal of the highly POV quote about the Japanese), but the entire addition is still a copyright violation. Then there's this addition where a self-published source is added, despite the editor being told countless times before that self-published sources are not acceptable. Similarly he has been working on 8th King's Royal Irish Hussars, and the problems there are the same. This is the use of an source of questionable reliability, and this is the use of a source which is clearly self-published. And with the second diff, (unless it is from a subpage I cannot find) the information doesn't come from that website anyway. "July 1941 found the 8th Hussars back as part of the 4th Armoured Brigade with which they then fought during Operation Crusader at the battle of Sidi Rezegh Airfield, suffering heavy casualties when attacked in the rear by the 15th Panzer Division, which left them with just eight Honey Tanks fit for battle, with 35 having been captured in this engagement." is a copyright violation from here (which states the author retains copyright over the information), the original text from there was "July 1941 found the 8th Hussars back as part of the 4th Armoured Brigade with which they then fought during Operation Crusader, suffering heavy casualties when attacked in the rear by the 15th Panzer Division, which left them with just eight Honey Tanks fit for battle, with 35 having been captured in this engagement", the only difference being the addition of "at the battle of Sidi Rezegh Airfield" which isn't in the BBC article. I could provide similar problems on other articles he has edited and will if really needed, but I hope my point is already quite clear.
- Now if I was to follow him to those articles and start dealing with all these problems I'd almost certainly be accused of stalking, harassment, "attacks on his work" (a phrase used repeatedly by him, yet he has the audacity to claim other people have ownership problems) and so on, and the exact same problems we are having on Troubles related articles would spread to those articles too. But no "Troubles editors" are editing those articles, and there's still all sorts of problems with the edits he makes, and if the "Troubles editors" went there the same never-ending discussions where he just refuses to get it would ensue, and everyone's time would be wasted. So it's crystal clear who is actually causing the problems, regardless of what articles he edits the problems are the same, and once this is addressed (which admins failed to do before) any other problems (if they even exist) will be far easier to identify and deal with. How much longer do we need to waste our time banging our heads against a brick wall? Right now it looks like someone needs to go over all this editor's with a fine toothcomb to check for copyright violations, but given my previous interactions with him it is probably best if someone else deals with it. Domer48 (talk) 16:13, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
- It's been brought to my attention that he's had issues with Copyvios.. I just removed one from a not-reliable site that turned the article into a Copyright Violation. His edit: [3] the source [4]. I will attempt to have a word with him, as has been said, he is a bit new and may not understand our policies on WP:COPYVIO andWP:RS, but he needs to understand before moving forward on this. *Signing properly* SirFozzie (talk) 13:50, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Just another example of adding back unsourced POV commentary. After everyone explaining this a number of times. What should I do? Ignore it and explaine again. --Domer48 (talk) 06:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
- The user in question has chosen to think I was attacking him, and "is no longer active on wikipedia", according to his user talk page. SirFozzie (talk) 13:50, 27 May 2008 (UTC)