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*'''Decline''' - this is a content dispute, and you should continue to seek to resolve it on the article talkpage. For example, you offered [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Amhara_people&diff=759882870&oldid=759831546 this suggestion] a few days ago, which seems a good-faith proposal to resolve your concern. No one has commented on your suggestion yet - you may wish to consider opening a [[WP:RFC|request for comment]] instead. If you have a dispute over the quality of sources, your first stop should be [[WP:RSN|this noticeboard]]. If you have a concern over another editor's conduct, the first stop is probably [[WP:ANI]]. All the best with resolving the dispute, but there's nothing here requiring Arbcom intervention at this stage. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 05:01, 17 January 2017 (UTC) |
*'''Decline''' - this is a content dispute, and you should continue to seek to resolve it on the article talkpage. For example, you offered [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Amhara_people&diff=759882870&oldid=759831546 this suggestion] a few days ago, which seems a good-faith proposal to resolve your concern. No one has commented on your suggestion yet - you may wish to consider opening a [[WP:RFC|request for comment]] instead. If you have a dispute over the quality of sources, your first stop should be [[WP:RSN|this noticeboard]]. If you have a concern over another editor's conduct, the first stop is probably [[WP:ANI]]. All the best with resolving the dispute, but there's nothing here requiring Arbcom intervention at this stage. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 05:01, 17 January 2017 (UTC) |
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**Sorry, one further point: [[WP:BLPGROUP]] can be relevant to groups of people that are so small that individuals could reasonably be identified within it. It does not meaningfully apply to entire ethnic groupings or nationalities. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 05:03, 17 January 2017 (UTC) |
Revision as of 05:03, 17 January 2017
Requests for arbitration
The Amhara people page lost neutrality and is being misrepresented.
Initiated by GabiloveAdol (talk) at 03:24, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Involved parties
- GabiloveAdol (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), filing party
- [[User:Ms Sarah Welch|Ms Sarah Welch]] ([[User talk:Ms Sarah Welch|talk]] · [[Special:Contribs/Ms Sarah Welch|contribs]] · [[Special:DeletedContributions/Ms Sarah Welch|deleted contribs]] · [[Special:Log/Ms Sarah Welch|logs]] · filter log · [[Special:Block/Ms Sarah Welch|block user]] · block log)
- [[User:EthiopianHabesha|EthiopianHabesha]] ([[User talk:EthiopianHabesha|talk]] · [[Special:Contribs/EthiopianHabesha|contribs]] · [[Special:DeletedContributions/EthiopianHabesha|deleted contribs]] · [[Special:Log/EthiopianHabesha|logs]] · filter log · [[Special:Block/EthiopianHabesha|block user]] · block log)
- [[User:Soupforone|Soupforone]] ([[User talk:Soupforone|talk]] · [[Special:Contribs/Soupforone|contribs]] · [[Special:DeletedContributions/Soupforone|deleted contribs]] · [[Special:Log/Soupforone|logs]] · filter log · [[Special:Block/Soupforone|block user]] · block log)
- Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
- Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried
See statement/time sensitivity GabiloveAdol (talk) 03:28, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Statement by GabiloveAdol
If you look at the page of October 23 2016 of the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amhara_people&diff=745887231&oldid=744666745 versus latest revision: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amhara_people&diff=759866613&oldid=759833452 You will see that the history section has been gutted in halve and that two new sections: 'Slavery' and 'Social stratification' had been added among other.
Ms Sarah Welch Has added both sections. On October 27 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amhara_people&diff=746386729&oldid=746379295 She first named it Slavery and Caste Then the title was changed to Social Stratification by Soupforone: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amhara_people&diff=746387935&oldid=746387072
On October 27 2016 i removed the 'Social Stratification' section when i was an ip, didn't knew how it worked, but i could just read the bias: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amhara_people&diff=746491137&oldid=746398243 didn't engage regarding the edits till january of this year.
On January 8 & 9 2017 i engaged Ms Sarah Welch on the Amhara people talk page source by source On January 9 2017 in those same discussions,Soupforone found out that the Amhara has not been mentioned in the source provided by Ms Sarah Welch : https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Amhara_people&diff=759086281&oldid=759086195
Same day Ms Sarah Welch https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Amhara_people&diff=759126649&oldid=759124880 lashed out and lied and then added a second line of text saying it was mutiple peer scholarly reviewed https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Amhara_people&diff=759143441&oldid=759126649
Then Ms Sarah Welch got caught redhanded again by using Donald Levine and passing it for the Herbert Lewis source which she earlier staunchly defended. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Amhara_people&diff=759168486&oldid=759143441
Then she went on a editing spree:
On january 9 2017 Ms Sarah Welch added a text in the history section which also contained sentence in a present context, and talking about a census of a group, talking about reducing reading quality of the page https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amhara_people&diff=759213260&oldid=759208010
On January 10 2017 Ms Sarah Welch added Slavery section https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amhara_people&diff=759307455&oldid=759257638 when social stratification(previously Slavery and Caste) just wasn't enough.
On January 13 2017 EthiopianHabesha had a proposal https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Amhara_people&diff=759831546&oldid=759800549 in which i agreed to moving the sections to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Ethiopia instead of opening similar sections in other ethnic groups, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Amhara_people&diff=759882870&oldid=759831546
Ms Sarah Welch is the only one opposed https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Amhara_people&diff=759919460&oldid=759894107
I skipped the prior dispute resolution because of the time sensitivity which i'm happily to elaborate further, it has to do with upcoming protest, awareness, information war and human rights. People relying on wikipedia to know more about the Amhara people could get the wrong or unbalanced impression/information, reading the article as it now is. I also emailed the Oversight team because the page is defamatory to a group, the previous history page has been gutted, and now two thirds of the history section is about 'Slavery' and 'Social stratification'. it's no longer neutral and it's misrepresenting a group of people which recently captured headlines!
Sincerely GabiloveAdol (talk) 03:24, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Statement by Ms Sarah Welch
Statement by EthiopianHabesha
Statement by Soupforone
Statement by {Non-party}
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The Amhara people page lost neutrality and is being misrepresented.: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/1/0>
Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse)
- Decline - this is a content dispute, and you should continue to seek to resolve it on the article talkpage. For example, you offered this suggestion a few days ago, which seems a good-faith proposal to resolve your concern. No one has commented on your suggestion yet - you may wish to consider opening a request for comment instead. If you have a dispute over the quality of sources, your first stop should be this noticeboard. If you have a concern over another editor's conduct, the first stop is probably WP:ANI. All the best with resolving the dispute, but there's nothing here requiring Arbcom intervention at this stage. -- Euryalus (talk) 05:01, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry, one further point: WP:BLPGROUP can be relevant to groups of people that are so small that individuals could reasonably be identified within it. It does not meaningfully apply to entire ethnic groupings or nationalities. -- Euryalus (talk) 05:03, 17 January 2017 (UTC)