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==Civility== |
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'''Initiated by ''' [[User:LT910001|Tom (LT)]] ([[User talk:LT910001|talk]]) '''at''' 23:12, 1 August 2014 (UTC) |
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=== Involved parties === |
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*{{userlinks|LT910001}}, ''filing party'' |
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*{{userlinks|Hell in a Bucket}} |
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*{{userlinks|Neotarf}} |
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*{{userlinks|Tarc}} |
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*{{userlinks|Lightbreather}} |
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*{{userlinks|Ryulong}} |
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*{{userlinks|Sitush}} |
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*{{userlinks|Jimbo Wales}} |
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*{{userlinks|Hell in a Bucket}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hell_in_a_Bucket&diff=619486089&oldid=619471643] |
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*{{userlinks|Neotarf}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Neotarf&diff=619486260&oldid=619462779] |
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*{{userlinks|Tarc}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tarc&diff=619486348&oldid=619462568] |
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*{{userlinks|Lightbreather}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lightbreather&diff=619486340&oldid=619443004] |
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*{{userlinks|Ryulong}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ryulong&diff=619486338&oldid=619302531] |
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*{{userlinks|Sitush}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sitush&diff=619486322&oldid=619470535] |
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*{{userlinks|Jimbo Wales}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=619486653&oldid=619484571] |
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* AN/I: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Various_epithets] |
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=== Statement by LT910001 === |
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A user (Hell in a Bucket) posted a very inflammatory comment on Jimbo Wales' talk page ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=619450552&oldid=619443455]), which was then removed and re-added a number of times by {{u|Neotarf}} ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=619454246&oldid=619454189]), {{u|Lightbreather}} ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=619462495&oldid=619462190]) and {{u|Tarc}} ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=619461193&oldid=619460140]). It's clear a number of users think that this does not warrant any form of disciplinary action ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=619450552&oldid=619443455]), "No. Get a sense of humour. " ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=619050753&oldid=619050371]), "That's a stretch and you know it" (edit), " is this shit really still being dragged out?" (edit summary) ({{u|Ryulong}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=619468660&oldid=619468619], ). This matter has not been dealt with by administrators. |
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Civility is one of the five pillars of Wikipedia ([[WP:CIVIL]]) and the [[WP:NPA]] policy quite clearly states "Racial, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, ageist, religious, political, ethnic, national, sexual, or other epithets (such as against people with disabilities) directed against another contributor, or against a group of contributors. Disagreement over what constitutes a religion, race, sexual orientation, or ethnicity is not a legitimate excuse." ([[WP:WIAPA]]). |
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Civility seems to be a neglected pillar and I believe the failure to enforce it is sanctioning rampant cursing, name-calling and other anti-social behaviors. One reason is because what constitutes 'uncivil' behaviour and disciplinary remedies have not been clearly outlined. I would request that ArbCom looks into this matter, and offers clear advice as to what constitutes civility and what remedies can be enforced by administrators. Wikipedia has its own set of rules, but I’d point out in actual workplaces some of these comments would probably already have prompted intervention or disciplinary action of some sort. |
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I have commented previously on AN/I and Jimbo Wales' talk page, but not interacted with this user to the best of my knowledge. |
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=== Statement by {Party 2} === |
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=== Statement by {Party 3} === |
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=== Clerk notes === |
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=== Personal attacks: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/0/0/0> === |
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{{anchor|1=Personal attacks: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter}}<small>Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse/other)</small> |
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Revision as of 23:37, 1 August 2014
Requests for arbitration
Civility
Initiated by Tom (LT) (talk) at 23:12, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Involved parties
- LT910001 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), filing party
- Hell in a Bucket (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Neotarf (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Tarc (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Lightbreather (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Ryulong (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Sitush (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Jimbo Wales (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
- Hell in a Bucket (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) [1]
- Neotarf (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) [2]
- Tarc (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) [3]
- Lightbreather (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) [4]
- Ryulong (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) [5]
- Sitush (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) [6]
- Jimbo Wales (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) [7]
- Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried
- AN/I: [8]
Statement by LT910001
A user (Hell in a Bucket) posted a very inflammatory comment on Jimbo Wales' talk page ([9]), which was then removed and re-added a number of times by Neotarf ([10]), Lightbreather ([11]) and Tarc ([12]). It's clear a number of users think that this does not warrant any form of disciplinary action ([13]), "No. Get a sense of humour. " ([14]), "That's a stretch and you know it" (edit), " is this shit really still being dragged out?" (edit summary) (Ryulong [15], ). This matter has not been dealt with by administrators.
Civility is one of the five pillars of Wikipedia (WP:CIVIL) and the WP:NPA policy quite clearly states "Racial, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, ageist, religious, political, ethnic, national, sexual, or other epithets (such as against people with disabilities) directed against another contributor, or against a group of contributors. Disagreement over what constitutes a religion, race, sexual orientation, or ethnicity is not a legitimate excuse." (WP:WIAPA).
Civility seems to be a neglected pillar and I believe the failure to enforce it is sanctioning rampant cursing, name-calling and other anti-social behaviors. One reason is because what constitutes 'uncivil' behaviour and disciplinary remedies have not been clearly outlined. I would request that ArbCom looks into this matter, and offers clear advice as to what constitutes civility and what remedies can be enforced by administrators. Wikipedia has its own set of rules, but I’d point out in actual workplaces some of these comments would probably already have prompted intervention or disciplinary action of some sort.
I have commented previously on AN/I and Jimbo Wales' talk page, but not interacted with this user to the best of my knowledge.
Statement by {Party 2}
Statement by {Party 3}
Clerk notes
- This area is used for notes by the clerks (including clerk recusals).
Personal attacks: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/0/0/0>
Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse/other)