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The apparent purpose of this template is to "pimp" (as the author put it) Wikias. Wikipedia's MoS states nothing of boxes being allowed for GFDl/CC Wiki/websites. The two Wikis using this box style are both not that notable. [[User:Matthew|Matthew]] 16:15, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
The apparent purpose of this template is to "pimp" (as the author put it) Wikias. Wikipedia's MoS states nothing of boxes being allowed for GFDl/CC Wiki/websites. The two Wikis using this box style are both not that notable to begin with, thus text suffices. [[User:Matthew|Matthew]] 16:15, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*Keep - querulous nomination as continuation of attempted edit war (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TardisIndexFile&action=history here]). The MOS is advisory at best (and I've a project to go through it and make it clearer it's a guideline to the thoughtful, not a set of instructions for robotic implementation). The WMF mission statement, which is not advisory, says our mission is to push free content. This box is also useful for directing those who might add the really awful f*ncr*ft somewhere to satisfy their needs - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] 16:21, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
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** You're not stating why a box is needed over text. I've always been pro-linking to good Wikis, but you're going to need a better argument as to why we need a box to link to websites with objectionable amounts of adverts. [[User:Matthew|Matthew]] 16:23, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
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***Wikipedia does not, to my knowledge, oppose advertisements as Foundation Policy. It does not use them, but it has, to my knowledge, no moral stance for or against them. It does, however, have a moral stance in favor of promoting free content, which we should therefore do boldly and proudly. [[User:Phil Sandifer|Phil Sandifer]] 16:30, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
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***It covers anything in the [[m:interwiki map|interwiki map]]. Thus, your second question doesn't actually match what it's questioning either - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] 16:32, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' - Is not created to promote Wikias - in fact, the template uses the interwiki table, meaning any MedaiWiki installation can be linked to providing it's been judged by the devs as a reasonable free content resource. This is an ideal way to be a good neighbor - where encyclopedic coverage of a topic ends but other worthwhile coverage begins, we can provide an interwiki box, much like we do with Wictionary and Wikiquote. It is a poor decision to only favor our own content like this. If it's free content of even decent quality that compliments our own, it is worth linking to. (And note that the box is deliberately designed to be a different color from our sister project boxes to prevent confusion on this front). [[User:Phil Sandifer|Phil Sandifer]] 16:30, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
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**Note also that the interwiki map is expressly biased toward free content wikis - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] 16:32, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
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**Also, to my knowledge, the MoS is not a complete list of what is permissable on Wikipedia and we do not generally need to first seek consensus at the MoS before trying out a new idea. If this policy has changed, please let me know so I can resign my adminship immediately. [[User:Phil Sandifer|Phil Sandifer]] 16:32, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*** /me goes to add "Admins called Phil are not allowed to quit" to the MoS - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] 16:41, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* This is just a convenient and pretty way of inserting an interwiki link. It's useful, so it should be kept, even if it's not being used for much at present. --[[User talk:Tony Sidaway|Tony Sidaway]] 16:38, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
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** I'm still not seeing any rationale as to why a box needs to be used, or any substance in the above "arguments". [[User:Matthew|Matthew]] 16:59, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
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***Because out-of-content text in articles is confusing whereas boxes clearly segregate navigational information? Because boxes match our other "Wiki X has information on this topic" formatting? Because, on balance, it's a reasonable amount of prominance for promotion of free content? [[User:Phil Sandifer|Phil Sandifer]] 17:00, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
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****Matthew needs also to note that his "preferred version" - a template masquerading as plain text - is outside the rules for templates - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] 17:47, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*Keep - no real reason given to delete that's at all compelling. [[User:Moreschi|Moreschi]] <sup> [[User talk:Moreschi|Talk]]</sup> 17:53, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
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I'd like to add this template to this discussion if you don't mind. '''Delete both''' as there is only one character article for this series ([[Daenerys Targaryen]]). All the other characters are grouped by [[House Targaryen|House]]. –[[User talk:Pomte|Pomte]] 03:38, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
I'd like to add this template to this discussion if you don't mind. '''Delete both''' as there is only one character article for this series ([[Daenerys Targaryen]]). All the other characters are grouped by [[House Targaryen|House]]. –[[User talk:Pomte|Pomte]] 03:38, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete both''', as nominator for former nom and in agreement with the latter nom. '''''[[User:Cremepuff222|<font color="008000">*Cremepuff</font>]][[User talk:Cremepuff222|<font color="006400">222*</font>]] <small>"[[WP:MOTD|<font color="green">As cool as grapes...</font>]]"</small>''''' 17:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
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The result of the debate was '''Speedy Delete''' per user request. <span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">^</span>[[User:^demon|<span style="color:black;font-weight:bold;">demon</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:^demon|<span style="color:red">[omg plz]</span>]]</sup> <em style="font-size:10px;">17:13, 26 May 2007 (UTC)</em> |
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I found that I cannot create a userbox which can match the other Template:User zh-wen-x. These userboxes are for Classical Chinese, yet I am unable to write in the same style of Classical Chinese as the others. So I strongly want this of my creation to be deleted. If I am an admin, I would have deleted immediately! --[[User:Edmundkh|Edmundkh]] 16:37, 26 May 2007 (UTC) |
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Template:FreeContentMeta
- Template:FreeContentMeta ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
The apparent purpose of this template is to "pimp" (as the author put it) Wikias. Wikipedia's MoS states nothing of boxes being allowed for GFDl/CC Wiki/websites. The two Wikis using this box style are both not that notable to begin with, thus text suffices. Matthew 16:15, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - querulous nomination as continuation of attempted edit war (see here). The MOS is advisory at best (and I've a project to go through it and make it clearer it's a guideline to the thoughtful, not a set of instructions for robotic implementation). The WMF mission statement, which is not advisory, says our mission is to push free content. This box is also useful for directing those who might add the really awful f*ncr*ft somewhere to satisfy their needs - David Gerard 16:21, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- You're not stating why a box is needed over text. I've always been pro-linking to good Wikis, but you're going to need a better argument as to why we need a box to link to websites with objectionable amounts of adverts. Matthew 16:23, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia does not, to my knowledge, oppose advertisements as Foundation Policy. It does not use them, but it has, to my knowledge, no moral stance for or against them. It does, however, have a moral stance in favor of promoting free content, which we should therefore do boldly and proudly. Phil Sandifer 16:30, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- It covers anything in the interwiki map. Thus, your second question doesn't actually match what it's questioning either - David Gerard 16:32, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- You're not stating why a box is needed over text. I've always been pro-linking to good Wikis, but you're going to need a better argument as to why we need a box to link to websites with objectionable amounts of adverts. Matthew 16:23, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - Is not created to promote Wikias - in fact, the template uses the interwiki table, meaning any MedaiWiki installation can be linked to providing it's been judged by the devs as a reasonable free content resource. This is an ideal way to be a good neighbor - where encyclopedic coverage of a topic ends but other worthwhile coverage begins, we can provide an interwiki box, much like we do with Wictionary and Wikiquote. It is a poor decision to only favor our own content like this. If it's free content of even decent quality that compliments our own, it is worth linking to. (And note that the box is deliberately designed to be a different color from our sister project boxes to prevent confusion on this front). Phil Sandifer 16:30, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- Note also that the interwiki map is expressly biased toward free content wikis - David Gerard 16:32, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- Also, to my knowledge, the MoS is not a complete list of what is permissable on Wikipedia and we do not generally need to first seek consensus at the MoS before trying out a new idea. If this policy has changed, please let me know so I can resign my adminship immediately. Phil Sandifer 16:32, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- /me goes to add "Admins called Phil are not allowed to quit" to the MoS - David Gerard 16:41, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- This is just a convenient and pretty way of inserting an interwiki link. It's useful, so it should be kept, even if it's not being used for much at present. --Tony Sidaway 16:38, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm still not seeing any rationale as to why a box needs to be used, or any substance in the above "arguments". Matthew 16:59, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- Because out-of-content text in articles is confusing whereas boxes clearly segregate navigational information? Because boxes match our other "Wiki X has information on this topic" formatting? Because, on balance, it's a reasonable amount of prominance for promotion of free content? Phil Sandifer 17:00, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- Matthew needs also to note that his "preferred version" - a template masquerading as plain text - is outside the rules for templates - David Gerard 17:47, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- Because out-of-content text in articles is confusing whereas boxes clearly segregate navigational information? Because boxes match our other "Wiki X has information on this topic" formatting? Because, on balance, it's a reasonable amount of prominance for promotion of free content? Phil Sandifer 17:00, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm still not seeing any rationale as to why a box needs to be used, or any substance in the above "arguments". Matthew 16:59, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - no real reason given to delete that's at all compelling. Moreschi Talk 17:53, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Template:A Song of Ice and Fire Character
- Template:A Song of Ice and Fire Character ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
This template isn't used. Even if the template is "subst:"ed, a google search returned no evidence of its use. *Cremepuff222* "As cool as grapes..." 01:57, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- Template:ASOIAF Character ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
I'd like to add this template to this discussion if you don't mind. Delete both as there is only one character article for this series (Daenerys Targaryen). All the other characters are grouped by House. –Pomte 03:38, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- Delete both, as nominator for former nom and in agreement with the latter nom. *Cremepuff222* "As cool as grapes..." 17:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)