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I feel that technical evidence may not definitively prove the connection due to the sophistication of our serial socks, so it's important to evaluate this case based on behavioral evidence. |
I feel that technical evidence may not definitively prove the connection due to the sophistication of our serial socks, so it's important to evaluate this case based on behavioral evidence. |
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Nauman335
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01 May 2024
Suspected sockpuppets
- BeauSuzanne (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Wryeb (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • SPI Tools
I feel that technical evidence may not definitively prove the connection due to the sophistication of our serial socks, so it's important to evaluate this case based on behavioral evidence.
BeauSuzanne's pattern of creating BLPs on non-notable Pakistani actors first in draft namespace and subsequently moving them fraudulently to the main namespace mirrors the behavior of Qwef1234 (talk · contribs) - See BeauSuzanne's moves and Qwef1234's moves. It's not merely coincidental that both exhibit similar behavioral patterns and focus on the same area of interest.
When I began scrutinizing BLPs created by BeauSuzanne and initiated an ANI report, BeauSuzanne remained composed and engaged in discussions. However, upon raising suspicions about BeauSuzanne potentially being a sock of Nauman335, BeauSuzanne promptly lodged a complaint against me here. While it's uncertain whether BeauSuzanne is indeed connected to Nauman335, I believe it's prudent to file this report with the available evidence at hand. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 19:37, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Comments by other users
- Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
Looking at this closer based on a message left on my talk page. Editor interaction tool shows hundreds of pages that have been cross-edited which by itself is not conclusive but does raise a flag. Some of the pages there are edits within minutes (or even seconds) of each other. What does stand out is how quickly these accounts edit on new page creations.
For instance, BeauSuzanne creates the page Inayat Khan (actor) and within less than an hour, Qwef1234 comes along and adds an image, with BeauSuzanne continue to edit minutes after. Another is Seema (Pakistani film) which was created by Qweff1234 and then edited by BeauSuzanne on the same day. It raises questions as to how both accounts know these pages exist so quickly. I originally thought it could be from placing the pages into a WikiProject category but looking at Seema, the talk page was not tagged with a project until 7 days after both accounts edited. Here are some additional examples. Note there are dozens more but I am not going to take 4 hours to list them all out:
- Din (TV series), created by BeauSuzanne on December 5, 2023 with their last edit at 16:29, Qwef1234 comes and edits 31 minutes later.
- Nabeela (actress), created by BeauSuzanne on March 28, 2023 with their last edit at 14:13, Qwef1234 comes along at 14:50 and starts editing.
- Jamila Razzaq, created by BeauSuzanne on April 16, 2023 (late night) with last edit early morning of April 17th, Qwef1234 comes along less than two hours later and edits.
- Raza Mir, although created by BeauSuzanne in 2022, the back and forth editing comes from both accounts starting in February 2023 and continues through April.
- Chann Mahi, a page that has existed since 2007 with very few edits. Edited by both Beau Suzanne and Qweef1234 within 2 hours of each other on February 8, 2023.
Another thing that stands out is other socks reaching out on the talk pages of both BeauSuzanne and Qwef1234. An example is this for BeauSuzanne and this for Qwef1234. I have seen this with other film-related socks who do this in order to make it seem like they are helping well intentioned editors. Again, not conclusive, but raises flags. I also would not be surprised if BeauSuzanne is socking or MEAT with such an experienced account. Note that Qwef1234 had 7,500 edits and was three years old. --CNMall41 (talk) 01:02, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- WP:BOLDly adding new account Wryeb, created 28 April, recreated Khaie at Khaie (2024 Pakistani TV series), Zard Patton Ka Bunn, and Gentleman (Pakistani TV series) at Draft:Gentleman (2024 Pakistani TV series), all previously created by blocked socks of master. Wikishovel (talk) 11:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Wikishovel: Good catch! @Wryeb was created shortly after I objected the questionable editing behavior of @BeauSuzanne. I also began to wonder why @BeauSuzanne hasn't been as active since I caught them. Now, it's clear they've been busy under this new account @Wryeb. It's no coincidence that @Wryeb - a newbie is energetically editing in the same domain, specifically moving pages from draft to main space, mirroring @BeauSuzanne's past actions. Certainly them.--—Saqib (talk | contribs) 12:06, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for this - spotted Wryeb last night and didn't have the time then. Ravensfire (talk) 12:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- BeauSuzanne is Unrelated to Nauman335 or to Wryeb. I'm not fundamentally ruling out future checkuser findings changing this, but at this time, no relation. However, Wryeb is Confirmed to Nauman335. I'll tag and block. --Yamla (talk) 14:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)