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As she/he so often does, Caseeart demonstrates a disconcerting inability to read, not only my user page and the sock puppet policy, but also the advice of multiple editors who told her/him six months ago that there was no case against me. |
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:HighInBC/Archive_66#Malik_Shabazz_arbitration_case_and_Sockpupetting.]][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ceradon/Archive_8#Malik_Shabazz_arbitration_case] — [[User:MShabazz|MShabazz]] <sup>[[User talk:Malik Shabazz|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/MShabazz|Stalk]]</sub> 16:57, 4 April 2016 (UTC) |
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Malik Shabazz
- Malik Shabazz (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
04 April 2016
– An SPI clerk has declined a request for CheckUser, and the case is now awaiting a behavioural investigation.
- Suspected sockpuppets
- MShabazz (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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MMShabazz is claimed to be a WP:DOPPELGANGER account.
This all started after in August 2015 when Malik Shabazz was Blocked and unblocked from editing Wikipedia. Abraham put a "retired" notification [1] Malik Shabazz's user page. Shabbazz stopped editing Wikipedia under the username and instead began editing under IP addresses all while the "retired" notification remained. Finally in January 2016 Shabazz asked Abraham to remove the notification[2] [3].
- 107.10.236.42 & 66.87.114.76 & MShabazz
In this talk page discussion [4][5] you could see that first Shabbazz uses two ip addresses and then finally logs in as MShabazz and continues the conversation.
Here Shabazz engaged in edit warring using 107.10.236.42 [6] and MMShabazz [7]
- Almost every article that was edited by 107.10.236.42 was also edited by Malik Shabazz/MMShabazz. See the history of the following articles -
[8] [9] [10] [11] And almost every other article.
- 66.87.114.76 & 107.10.236.42
In this conversation [12] both IP Addresses were used to place warnings on E.M.Gregory's talk page.
Also, after E.M.Gregory put a sock-puppet warning on the talk page of ip 107.10.236.42 [13] - then user IP 66.87.114.76 removed the warning with the following curse language [14] "Taking out the trash fucking moron doesn't know what vandalism is or how to leave a warning template" (Without any mention of the sock-puppet concern). Also see this [15]
- 63.116.31.198
This ip together with Malik Shabazz/MMShabazz engaged in edit warring against E.M.Gregory's edits. Deliberately uses the edit summary "the IP (-63.116.31.198-) has made a convincing argument on the talk page *to which you have not responded* -- please do so" This tricks other editors into thinking that this is a separate user. [16] [17]
Malik Shabazz/MMShabazz and 63.116.31.198 both edit the following page and user talk page: [18] [19]
Here, [20] experienced ip 107.10.236.42 was working on getting user Moetzes blocked and then - the experienced editors 63.116.31.198 & 107.10.236.42 repeatedly request to enforces the ban: [21][22] (The mere accusing user Moetzes of sock-puppet - shows edit experience)
Here are more examples of the same IPs running after alleged sockpuppet of user Moetzes [23] User Moetzes talk page: [24][25]
- Here user 107.10.236.42 repeatedly deletes requests from other users asking to list previous accounts, and sockpuppet warnings from it's talk page. User 107.10.236.42 used false edit summaries including "Talking out trash"[26] "“Taking out the trash; fucking moron doesn't know what vandalism is or how to leave a warning template” [27] [28] etc.
- Here is a ANI discussion where 107.10.236.42 again refuses to disclose if he/she had any previous accounts.Caseeart (talk) 06:57, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
There is much much more evidence (and possibly more involved) but let us go through the violations:
- The user violates the WP:DOPPELGANGER rule "Such accounts should not be used for editing" - the user constantly uses the account to edit. This is especially a problem since Malik Shabazz has been blocked and MMShabazz has a clean history, and the Userpage Malik Shabbazz does not link to MMShabazz making it difficult to track edit habits. Also both accounts have even been involved in joint edit warring. See this example:[29][30] (-Although Shabazz was correct on this edit and I made an error-).
- "Avoiding scrutiny: Using alternative accounts that are not fully and openly disclosed to split your editing history means that other editors may not be able to detect patterns in your contributions...to confuse or deceive editors who may have a legitimate interest in reviewing your contributions". Especially because Malik Shabbazz does not even link to MMShabazz.
- "Creating an illusion of support: Alternative accounts must not be used to give the impression of more support for a position than actually exists." Which is what user did by saying "the IP (-63.116.31.198-) has made a convincing argument on the talk page *to which you have not responded* -- please do so".
- "Contributing to the same page or discussion with multiple accounts: Editors may not use more than one account to contribute to the same page or discussion in a way that suggests they are multiple people." (Unless clearly linked, legitimate, alternative accounts). As mentioned the user constantly engaged in editing and edit warring using a variety of accounts.
- "Editing logged out to mislead: Editing under multiple IP addresses may be treated the same as editing under multiple accounts where it is done deceptively or otherwise violates the principles of this policy." Particularly that user repeatedly deleted warnings and concerns of other users of sockpuppeting.
And much more. Caseeart (talk) 07:20, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Comments by other users
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
As she/he so often does, Caseeart demonstrates a disconcerting inability to read, not only my user page and the sock puppet policy, but also the advice of multiple editors who told her/him six months ago that there was no case against me. [31]][32] — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 16:57, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Clerk declined - @Caseeart: First of all, it is not true that
Malik Shabbazz does not even link to MMShabazz
. The connection has been properly declared at User:Malik Shabazz since at least 2010 [33]. Second, it is not true thatMMShabazz is claimed to be a WP:DOPPELGANGER account
. I don't see the user mentioning WP:DOPPELGANGER anywhere. MShabazz is properly declared alternate account, per WP:VALIDALT. So, there is no need to use CheckUser, since the two accounts are properly declared. Now, about the IPs, I would like you provide more evidence to prove that Shabazz was using 107.10.236.42 and 63.116.31.198 deliberately to abuse the process. Take a note that logged-put editing is not forbidden per se. It is only forbidden to deliberately log out to abuse the process. Vanjagenije (talk) 09:39, 4 April 2016 (UTC)