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::::The data is not lost. Everyone knows the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/89.15.238.88 IPs] and original account originate from Germany. A checkuser can be done with the IPs that start with 89. I have more evidence but I cannot provide that evidence on Wikipedia otherwise he will change his behaviour. {{ping|CFCF}}, do not present the solid evidence on Wikipedia for obvious reasons. [[User:QuackGuru|<font color="vermillion">'''QuackGuru'''</font>]] ([[User talk:QuackGuru|<font color="burntorange">talk</font>]]) 23:08, 15 August 2015 (UTC) |
::::The data is not lost. Everyone knows the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/89.15.238.88 IPs] and original account originate from Germany. A checkuser can be done with the IPs that start with 89. I have more evidence but I cannot provide that evidence on Wikipedia otherwise he will change his behaviour. {{ping|CFCF}}, do not present the solid evidence on Wikipedia for obvious reasons. [[User:QuackGuru|<font color="vermillion">'''QuackGuru'''</font>]] ([[User talk:QuackGuru|<font color="burntorange">talk</font>]]) 23:08, 15 August 2015 (UTC) |
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*See [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/FergusM1970&diff=prev&oldid=675902672 here]. He is from [https://www.elance.com/s/edit/fergusm1970/ Germany]. The 89 IPs originate from Germany. I will not submit more evidence at this time. [[User:QuackGuru|<font color="vermillion">'''QuackGuru'''</font>]] ([[User talk:QuackGuru|<font color="burntorange">talk</font>]]) 04:05, 17 August 2015 (UTC) |
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FergusM1970
- FergusM1970 (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Populated account categories: confirmed
01 August 2015
– A user has requested CheckUser, but more information is required before deciding whether to check.
- Suspected sockpuppets
- DaleCurrie (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Lancer2K (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- OutOfCheeseError (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Potential:
- Nionman442 (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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What made me think twice
Two edits in the same topic area, randomly selected. These aren't especially remarkable on their own.
- Special:Contributions/92.12.66.90
But when combined with edits on this article they suddenly become much more interesting:
I started suspecting the user was on a dynamic IP range here:
This range is again back at:
All are from the same ISP.-- CFCF 🍌 (email) 23:13, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Evidence on accounts
I believe this user has a great number of throwaway accounts, so banning each individual one will not result in much effect. The defining factor here is the way these accounts have been working on the same subsets of articles, all of which FergusM1970 was banned for engaging in paid editing for.
FergusM1970 (talk · contribs) – BLOCKED
- Last ecig edit before permanent ban [10]
OutOfCheeseError (talk · contribs) – BLOCKED
Banned for abusing multiple accounts and editing on electronic cigarettes
Jonlindhe (talk · contribs)
SPA: [[12]]
Created one of only three articles that link to Jerome Katz, a colleague:
- [13] – Page created
DaleCurrie (talk · contribs) One edit on a rather non-visible article about ecigs:
Lancer2K (talk · contribs) Limited edits, mainly on ecigs:
TheNorlo (talk · contribs) Single purpose account only involved in Electronic cigarettes, increased editing post FergusM1970's ban
Merlin 1971 (talk · contribs) Another SPA on ecigs, formerly very active
Evidence on IPs
To be expanded
Comments by other users
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
- @Vanjagenije: I have now listed a number of randomly selected diffs from the users. It was not possible for certain of them due to the fact that many of the diffs in question were new page creations. This is only a very small start at the evidence that exists in this case. -- CFCF 🍌 (email) 22:15, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Vanjagenije: I will expand it when I have time. I have found this process to be extremely time-consuming.
- Now there is also a diff for FergusM9170s activity on electronic cigarettes, as for the diffs you mention do not indicate socking, I believe you will find SPAs engagement is similar to what FergusM1970 did.
- I did not realize that starting a sockpuppet investigation would be a one man effort. I was hoping a checkuser could look into the case so that I wouldn't have to waste time going through 150 different IPs before knowing if there was any validity to the claims. This is a known sockpuppeteer who has for several years made a living off undisclosed paid editing. -- CFCF 🍌 (email) 10:18, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Vanjagenije: Could you clarify what that means and why it would allow a known sockpuppeteer to remain at large? -- CFCF 🍌 (email) 21:23, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- The data is not lost. Everyone knows the IPs and original account originate from Germany. A checkuser can be done with the IPs that start with 89. I have more evidence but I cannot provide that evidence on Wikipedia otherwise he will change his behaviour. @CFCF:, do not present the solid evidence on Wikipedia for obvious reasons. QuackGuru (talk) 23:08, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- See here. He is from Germany. The 89 IPs originate from Germany. I will not submit more evidence at this time. QuackGuru (talk) 04:05, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- Additional information needed - @CFCF and QuackGuru: In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
- At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
- At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
- In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this..
- Disregard the IPs, they are not active any more. Just provide diffs for named accounts. Vanjagenije (talk) 14:44, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- @CFCF: I asked for WP:diffs of edits made by the named accounts, and you did not provide any. Please, don't link user's contributions, that is already linked above in the "Suspected sockpuppets" section for every user. I need diffs. Vanjagenije (talk) 09:58, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- @CFCF: When is it going to "be axpanded"? By the way, your diffs no. 8 and 9 point to the same URL. And diffs 13, 14, 15 and 16 do not show any similarities between those accounts. Vanjagenije (talk) 17:14, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- @CFCF: CheckUser is not able to look into FergusM1970 data, as it is Stale. Vanjagenije (talk) 11:55, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- @CFCF: Sure. Technical data that is used by the CheckUser is deleted after few months. And, FergusM1970 has not edited for 8 months, so his data is lost. Vanjagenije (talk) 22:06, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- @QuackGuru: and @CFCF: - because of the fact that CU can't see data you need to make a case based on strong behavioural evidence in a clearly laid out report. Also please don't use this section for conversation it's for patrolling admins, clerks and CUs - I've moved your comments accordingly - please reply in that section--Cailil talk 01:34, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Note: IPs 89.204.154.39 and 89.15.238.88 are blocked. This is clearly a sock-puppeteer abusing dynamic IPs and evading scrutiny. At this point it's not clear that it is FergusM (but my mind is open). Suggest closing this report "without prejudice" to a new SPI filing, with a clearer, stronger case--Cailil talk 01:41, 17 August 2015 (UTC)