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==Evidence presented by [[User:KillerChihuahua]]== |
==Evidence presented by [[User:KillerChihuahua]]== |
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Ferrylodge habitually edit wars against consensus and then escalates to personal attacks when things don't go his way. |
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''I will be adding evidence as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience.'' |
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Ferrylodge engages in multiple campaigns on multiple fronts at the same time, spearding disputes across multiple articles and talk pages. He shows a pattern of chronically harassing others via character assassination and personal attacks which rely heavily upon misrepresenting his "opponents" views and statements. He sometimes repeats the precise same vicious accusations - I am speaking here of repeatedly making the same accusation against the same editor with the same diff as "evidence", not merely repeating himself. He reposts the same attack. He also continues to attack other editors well after the initial dispute. |
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This is no effort to discuss and resolve disputes; this is a campaign to malign and disparage those he disagrees with in an attempt to damage their reputation; hurt, harass and intimidate them into withdrawing from what he has made into a highly personal and damaging conflict. According to their own statements, this has worked with Severa,[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ACommunity_sanction_noticeboard&diff=159299378&oldid=159294856] who left the project, only coming back when Ferrylodge was banned; and Andrew c,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_sanction_noticeboard/Archive13#Statement_from_Andrew_c] who avoided articles on which Ferrylodge was active. I also found myself avoiding those articles, solely because of Ferrylodge's hostility. |
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I have attempted to keep my evidence brief. I have therefore necessarily omitted many details as well as entire "campaigns". I trust the following will give an indication of the issues. |
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===The RCOG incident=== |
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;Ferrylodge edits against consensus |
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On [[Fetal pain]] article, where a number of editors disagreed with the edit on the talk page and in edit summaries: |
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fetal_pain&diff=133100487&oldid=133044011 04:13, 24 May 2007] - this was adding a cite to the disputed content, as added two edits before by Stadler981 at 22:24, 23 May 2007 Dispute proceeded on talk, with Ferrylodge stating the cite supported labeling RCOG "pro-choice" and other editors disagreeing to varying degrees. |
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fetal_pain&diff=prev&oldid=133280020 22:39, 24 May 2007] |
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On RCOG article: |
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Royal_College_of_Obstetricians_and_Gynaecologists&diff=next&oldid=133454405 (1) 17:26, 25 May 2007] Edit summary "Wikilinking abortion and pro-choice." but this is where the "pro-choice" was first added to this article |
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Royal_College_of_Obstetricians_and_Gynaecologists&diff=next&oldid=133668934 (2) 17:06, 26 May 2007] |
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Royal_College_of_Obstetricians_and_Gynaecologists&diff=next&oldid=133678413 (3) 21:46, 26 May 2007] |
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Ferrylodge protested that there was no consensus that RCOG was not a "pro-choice" organization because there was no discussion on Talk:RCOG - which is accurate but misleading, as all the discussion had taken place on [[Talk:Fetal_pain#RCOG|Talk:Fetal pain]]. |
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;Ferrylodge pursues matter to my talk page, culminating in block for harassment |
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*[[User_talk:KillerChihuahua/Archive_10#Please_Assume_Good_Faith]] |
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;Ferrylodge tendentiously argues his case across multiple venues |
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* [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive252#Harassment Charge By Bishonen Against Ferrylodge]] |
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* [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Bishonen 2]] |
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* [[Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Bishonen 2]] |
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* [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive259#Disruptive editing at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment by Ferrylodge]] regarding Ferrylodge edit warring for his Rfc summary of "No conclusion. Closed per agreement. No agreement reached about harassment charge."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_comment%2FUser_conduct%2FArchive&diff=138132695&oldid=127510338] which he has since referred to mulitple times, the most recent in bringing this ArbCom case, by saying "I would like to state for the record that KC’s blatantly incorrect RfC summary was ultimately corrected by another editor." [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=163740646&oldid=163739163] Note that his edit summary was blatantly false; mine was modified by Lsi_john to appease Ferrylodge, with my full support. Yet he smears me by referring to this in this manner. He continues also to disparage Bishonen regarding the entire incident. |
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===The womb war=== |
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;The edit war (15 through 20 September 2007) |
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* On [[Pregnancy]]: 15:42, 15 September 2007 Ferrylodge replaces "woman" with "mother", "uterus" with "womb" and "fetus" with "baby" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pregnancy&diff=next&oldid=158063267] |
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* 15:47, 15 September 2007 partial revert by Ginko100 ("womb" to "uterus") [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pregnancy&diff=prev&oldid=158066917] |
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* 21:12, 15 September 2007 further reverts by Jim62sch ("baby" to "fetus") [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pregnancy&diff=next&oldid=158099648], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pregnancy&diff=next&oldid=158126733], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pregnancy&diff=next&oldid=158127118], |
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** [[Talk:Pregnancy#Technical language is not preferred]] begun 16 September 2007 by Ferrylodge: Ferrylodge argues for "womb" (as well as "mother" instead of "woman", "baby" instead of "fetus" and other terms). Consensus does '''not''' support these edits. |
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* 12:12, 17 September 2007 Extensive reverts by 68.163.233.17, citing talk page ("mother" to "woman", "womb" to "uterus" and "baby" to "fetus")[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pregnancy&diff=next&oldid=158463778] |
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* 03:31, 18 September 2007 Partial revert of "mother" by Ferrylodge [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pregnancy&diff=prev&oldid=158646105] |
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* 18:24, 19 September 2007 Reverted by Tvoz [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pregnancy&diff=next&oldid=158745560] |
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* On [[Mother]]: 14:34, 19 September 2007[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mother&diff=158955581&oldid=158954852] |
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** [[Talk:Stillbirth#Womb and Uterus]] begun 14:13, 20 September 2007 by Ferrylodge. He received no support and was criticized for forum shopping by several editors (myself included.) |
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* On [[Stillbirth]], 20 September 2007: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stillbirth&diff=159157348&oldid=158968535], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stillbirth&diff=159168779&oldid=159166451], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stillbirth&diff=159175168&oldid=159169053], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stillbirth&diff=next&oldid=159177068]. |
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; Ferrylodge personalizes dispute, escalates to violating [[WP:NPA]] |
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* when I referred to "womb" as "vulgar" in an edit summary, and to clarify I posted the definition link to the meaning of vulgar I was using (commonly used language), he [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AFerrylodge&diff=159199940&oldid=159199844 removed] it with the edit summary " Please do not post at my talk page, KC." - then proceeded to post on his talk page that '''"she said that I was trying to insert a "vulgar" word into the article. It astounds me that an admin can get away with such incivility, and I find it very difficult to respond in a constructive way to her personal attacks"''' - which is typical of his tactics, for I must either ignore his misrepresentation of my statement, or ignore his request to not post on his talk page - which surely he learned in his [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Bishonen&page=User%3AFerrylodge block for harassment] would be harassment, as that is precisely what he was last blocked for. In short, he's using the "lessons learned" not to be a better Wikipedian, but to [[WP:GAME|game the system]] so that he is "innocent" and I am "doing wrong." This is so blatantly misleading it constitutes lying in order to smear me. I am not the only editor he uses these tactics against. |
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* On [[Talk:Motherhood]], in a discussion begun by [[User:Pleasantville]] concerning biological motherhood: |
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* Ferrylodge accuses Tvoz of wikistalking [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mother&diff=prev&oldid=158866316] Tvoz had responded to Pleasantville supporting Pleasantville's idea. She had not addressed any remarks to Ferrylodge. She protested.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mother&diff=next&oldid=158866316#Biological_motherhood] |
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* 10:48, 19 September 2007 Pleasantville requested that Ferrylodge "maintain a civil tone"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mother&diff=next&oldid=158892156] |
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* 14:07, 19 September 2007 and again, after further edits from Ferrylodge, Pleasantville requests civility from Ferrylodge[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mother&diff=next&oldid=158948481] |
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* 14:31, 19 September 2007 Ferrylodge escalates his attacks, calling Pleasantville "condescending", accusing her of "psychoanalyzing, and pretending that my tone is not civil" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mother&diff=next&oldid=158950900] |
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* 14:54, 19 September 2007 Pleasantville requests that Ferrylodge "relax and talk" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mother&diff=next&oldid=158955016] |
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* 16:19, 21 September 2007 On the CSN noticeboard, Ferrylodge stated that this was his only interaction with Pleasantville, and that "What I do know about Pleasantville is that she is a very unkind editor." citing this interaction as evidence! [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ACommunity_sanction_noticeboard&diff=159416911&oldid=159415937] |
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* 16:47, 20 September 2007 Ferrylodge was blocked for 3RR on [[Stillbirth]] |
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* Ferrylodege makes unblock request, which consisted primarily of a series of attacks against me, which included the "vulgar" accusation.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AFerrylodge&diff=159199844&oldid=159198583] |
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* 22:55, 20 September 2007 ElinorD corrected two of his attacks, stating "And Ferrylodge, KillerChihuahua has already pointed out that "vulgar" has more than one meaning. Nor did she imply that you were "congenitally dense". She said that your behaviour served no purpose, "unless your purpose [was] to convice others you are congenitally dense." That's quite different" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AFerrylodge&diff=159271213&oldid=159270090] |
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* 23:10, 20 September 2007 Ferrylodge continued his attacks on me[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ferrylodge&diff=prev&oldid=159273625] |
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===Fetus image on [[Abortion]]=== |
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This has been discussed at least 6 times, and the consensus is that images of fetuses are not appropriate. This is now in the [[Talk:Abortion/FAQ|FAQ for the article]] (with links to disucssions). This question was raised again by a drive-by editor on 16 August 2007 in [[Talk:Abortion#Images_of_Abortion]]. Again, strong majority favored no images. Ferrylodge supported inclusion of images. During this dispute, |
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Ferrylodge engaged in personal attacks and repeatedly edit warred against well-established and current consensus. |
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; Ferrylodge edits against [[WP:CON]] |
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* 04:08, 19 September 2007 Talk:Abortion: Ferrylodge states his intention to add a POV tag because his image is not supported [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAbortion&diff=158881216&oldid=158848214] |
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* 04:23, 19 September 2007 Abortion: Ferrylodge adds image of fetus to Fetal pain section of article [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abortion&diff=prev&oldid=158882995] |
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* 06:32, 19 September 2007 Talk:Abortion: Tvoz objects to image [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAbortion&diff=158896578&oldid=158894513] |
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* 15:58, 19 September 2007 Abortion: Image removed by Lion's Heart with edit summary "Take out POV image. POV problem solved. This was proposed on the talk page, but they just went ahead and added it anyway, w/o consensus. Allow discussion. Don't force your hand." [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abortion&diff=158970633&oldid=158966753] |
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* 17:26, 19 September 2007 Talk:Abortion:I commented that the image was not only against consensus, but added in a completely inappropriate section (Fetal pain) [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAbortion&diff=158987169&oldid=158984844] |
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* 21:21, 19 September 2007 Talk:Abortion:Andrew c with edit summary "can't we lighten up a bit?" attempts to lighten the situation with a little gallows humor [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAbortion&diff=159033980&oldid=159009253] |
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; Ferrylodge escalates to violating [[WP:NPA]] |
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* 15:01, 20 September 2007 Talk:Abortion: At this point, Ferrylodge attacked both Andrew c and myself, accusing us of ''ridiculing the notion of fetal pain''. His only possible "evidence" for this is my agreement with the removal of the image, and Andrew's attempt to lighten the mood. "I think it should be clear that admins here such as Andrew c and Killerchuhuahua ridicule the notion of fetal pain, and are determined to make sure that their pro-choice POV is fully reflected in this article" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAbortion&diff=159176253&oldid=159089881] This is a personal attack due to our not supporting this inappropriate image against long established consensus. Ferrylodge is attempting to intimidate us into not opposing his unsupported and inappropriate addition. He underlined his position by adding a POV tag to the article.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abortion&diff=159176385&oldid=159088694] |
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* 15:11, 20 September 2007 I responded.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAbortion&diff=159177974&oldid=159176253] This is the "bullshit" edit summary. I stand by that assessment. To accuse Andrew c of POV, and to further smear him with the allegation that he has "ridiculed" fetal pain, due to one light comment on the talk page, is to misrepresent Andrew's post in the worst possible light - indeed, in such a light that I cannot in good faith believe that Ferrylodge could have so badly misinterpreted Andrew's action, and find this to be a deliberate attempt at character assassination and intimidation. It is bullshit of the worst order: deliberate and malicious personal attack on another editor. I have no explanation as to why I was included in this attack, as I had merely agreed with the removal of the image which had nothing to do with fetal pain and had no support for addition. |
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*16:47, 20 September 2007 Ferrylodge was blocked for 3RR on [[Stillbirth]] (see [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Ferrylodge/Evidence#The womb war|The womb war]], above) ending this edit war as well as that one. |
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==Evidence presented by Ali'i== |
==Evidence presented by Ali'i== |
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Evidence presented by User:Rocksanddirt
Ferrylodge was banned appropriately by the CSN
Following this discussion and the user's (User:Ferrylodge)attempts to manipulate it, he was banned. I feel that it would have been better for the ban to have waited another 24 or 48 hrs to happen, but consensus was for site ban, not one of the alternative proposals. --Rocksanddirt 17:37, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Evidence presented by User:B
Timeline
All times GMT if I did the math right - please correct if I didn't
- Ferrylodge (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) - edit count
- 02:09, 29 April 2004 - Ferrylodge's first edit
- ca December 2006 - Ferrylodge becomes a regular contributor (169 total edits prior)
- 16:45, 20 September 2007 - MastCell blocked for a 3RR violation on Stillbirth (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- 23:32, 20 September 2007 - KillerChihuahua proposes the ban [1]
- 03:05, 21 September 2007 - MastCell unblocked Ferrylodge so that he could participate in the CSN discussion)
- 18:23, 21 September 2007 - FeloniousMonk made the indefinite block
KillerChihuahua and Ferrylodge
- KillerChihuahua (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
- 15:11, 20 September 2007 - KillerChihuahua makes a highly incivil comment to Ferrylodge, just 8 hours before proposing the ban
FeloniousMonk
- FeloniousMonk (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
- FeloniousMonk was a participant in the discussion [2] and should not have made the block.
The Community sanction noticeboard met with widespread community disapproval
- The board was deactivated by community consensus at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Community sanction noticeboard (second nomination).
- Community bans ought to be the last step, not the first step in dispute resolution and users ought not to be AFD'd/
Evidence presented by User:Ferrylodge
Ferrylodge was not allowed to answer accusations at Community Sanction Noticeboard (CSN)
I (Ferrylodge) was only allowed to comment at the Community Sanction Noticeboard (CSN) during a window of several hours in the middle of the CSN discussions, and therefore I had no opportunity to answer numerous CSN allegations that resulted in my banishment from Wikipedia. This is shown by the following timeline:
17 September 2007 – Ferrylodge was in Washington Post article, [3] later cited to help justify banishment from Wikipedia.[4][5]
15:11, 20 September 2007 - Ferrylodge violated 3RR at Stillbirth article.[6]
16:45, 20 September 2007 - Mastcell blocked Ferrylodge for 3RR at Stillbirth article.[7]
22:49, 20 September 2007 – Mastcell recommended dispute resolution be pursued after 3RR block.[8]
23:32, 20 September 2007 - KillerChihuahua began CSN discussion to ban Ferrylodge.[9]
00:45, 21 September 2007 - Ferrylodge requested unblock to participate at CSN.[10]
03:05, 21 September 2007 - Mastcell made good faith attempt to unblock Ferrylodge to participate at CSN.[11]
03:52, 21 September 2007 - Ferrylodge stated that he was still unable to edit CSN.[12]
05:57, 21 September 2007 - Ferrylodge made his first statement on CSN,[13] while stating "I will be travelling on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday (September 21-23) and therefore will not have internet access."
16:19, 21 September 2007 - Ferrylodge made his last statement at CSN.[14]
18:23, 21 September 2007 - FeloniousMonk banned Ferrylodge.[15]
20:48, 21 September 2007 - Mastcell apologized for lingering autoblock of Ferrylodge.[16]
22:03, 21 September 2007 - Vote on banning Ferrylodge began at CSN after he was already banned.[17]
16:02, 22 September 2007 – Voting and commenting at CSN on Ferrylodge came to an end.[18]
03:28, 6 October 2007 – CSN nominated for deletion.[19]
20:30, 8 October 2007 – Ferrylodge unblocked for purposes of appealing to ARBCOM. [20]
23:04, 9 October 2007 – Ferrylodge posts for the first time at Requests for Arbitration.[21]
03:18, 11 October 2007 – CSN abolished.[22]
Ferrylodge has apologized
I have apologized for the two 3RR violations that have earned me blocks here at Wikipedia.[23] I have suggested a 1RR limitation for awhile, due to my two 3RR blocks.[24] I have also apologized, for example, about an edit summary in January 2007 regarding “killing the chihuahua.”[25]
Banning Ferrylodge is opposed by various administrators
Administrator B has stated, “I am an admin and yes, I am willing to overturn the block - I firmly believe the ban is incorrect both on the facts of the case and on the process that was followed.”[26]
Administrator Y has stated, “Ferrylodge did do a lot of very useful mainspace editing, and that by banning a user like him we are harming the project.”[27]
FeloniousMonk shouldn't have banned Ferrylodge and explanation from him has been requested
FeloniousMonk banned me for "harassment,"[28] even though FeloniousMonk was involved in the brief discussions at the CSN,[29] and even though FeloniousMonk had previously made related accusations against me.[30]
I stated in my arbitration request that I would like to address specific accusations of alleged harassment that are identified by FeloniousMonk as most serious, “before addressing less serious accusations.”[31] FeloniousMonk has thus far not identified such specific instances of alleged harassment.Ferrylodge 03:26, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
I will present further evidence, including evidence responding to that presented by others.Ferrylodge 22:42, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Evidence presented by Odd nature
FerryLodge was not denied the ability to respond to his community ban
- Mastcell unblocked Ferrylodge to respond to WP:CSN: [32]
- FerryLodge then commented at WP:CSN to the proposed ban 9 times: [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] [41]
- FerryLodge ended his participation in the discussion prior to the ban being instituted: [42]
- FerryLodge used his replies at WP:CSN to repeat and continue his harassment of others: [43] [44] [45] [46] [47] [48] [49] [50] [51]
There was overwhelming support for a ban
- At the time FeloniousMonk instituted the ban, the community was 14:4 in favor of a ban: [52]
- A summary of opinions after ~35 hours of discussion showed support for a community ban ran at 15:1: [53]
- At 48 hours when the discussion was closed total support for a community ban of FerryLodge was 22 in favor and 7 opposed: [54]
Proposed alternatives to the ban missed the problem
- The proposed alternatives to the indefinite ban, indefinite probation with 0RR or an indefinite topic ban on political, pregnancy and abortion related articles do not address FerryLodge's pattern of harassment of KillerChihuahua that prompted her to seek a ban: [55] User:Tvos presented additional evidence of harassment by FerryLodge: [56], as did Severa who said it was to the extent that she left Wikipedia and Andrew_c stated he had avoided editing articles on which Ferrylodge was active for the same reason. That's 4 editors claiming harassment by FerryLodge. FerryLodge's long standing pattern of harassment documented at in a RFC at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Bishonen_2#Response and the response to it was endorsed by many respected editors. Topic bans are a remedy for biased editing and chronic 3RR violations, not harassment.
FeloniousMonk did not violate policy or convention by instituting the ban
- FeloniousMonk had no previous involvement with FerryLodge prior to his comment regarding a community ban at WP:CSN: [57]
- At both WP:AN/I and at WP:CSN it is a common practice that admins institute a community ban that they've commented on.
- FerryLodge has presented no actual evidence that supports his claim that FeloniousMonk was too involved to act on community support and institute the ban: Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Ferrylodge/Evidence#FeloniousMonk_shouldn.27t_have_banned_Ferrylodge_and_explanation_from_him_has_been_requested
FerryLodge supporter User:Ali'i was incivil, harassed FM, others
- Incivil, harassing FM for instituting the ban: [58] [59] [60] [61]
- More incivility/trolling when called on it: [62] [63] [64] [65]
Evidence presented by User:KillerChihuahua
Ferrylodge habitually edit wars against consensus and then escalates to personal attacks when things don't go his way.
Ferrylodge engages in multiple campaigns on multiple fronts at the same time, spearding disputes across multiple articles and talk pages. He shows a pattern of chronically harassing others via character assassination and personal attacks which rely heavily upon misrepresenting his "opponents" views and statements. He sometimes repeats the precise same vicious accusations - I am speaking here of repeatedly making the same accusation against the same editor with the same diff as "evidence", not merely repeating himself. He reposts the same attack. He also continues to attack other editors well after the initial dispute.
This is no effort to discuss and resolve disputes; this is a campaign to malign and disparage those he disagrees with in an attempt to damage their reputation; hurt, harass and intimidate them into withdrawing from what he has made into a highly personal and damaging conflict. According to their own statements, this has worked with Severa,[66] who left the project, only coming back when Ferrylodge was banned; and Andrew c,[67] who avoided articles on which Ferrylodge was active. I also found myself avoiding those articles, solely because of Ferrylodge's hostility.
I have attempted to keep my evidence brief. I have therefore necessarily omitted many details as well as entire "campaigns". I trust the following will give an indication of the issues.
The RCOG incident
- Ferrylodge edits against consensus
On Fetal pain article, where a number of editors disagreed with the edit on the talk page and in edit summaries:
- 04:13, 24 May 2007 - this was adding a cite to the disputed content, as added two edits before by Stadler981 at 22:24, 23 May 2007 Dispute proceeded on talk, with Ferrylodge stating the cite supported labeling RCOG "pro-choice" and other editors disagreeing to varying degrees.
- 22:39, 24 May 2007
On RCOG article:
- (1) 17:26, 25 May 2007 Edit summary "Wikilinking abortion and pro-choice." but this is where the "pro-choice" was first added to this article
- (2) 17:06, 26 May 2007
- (3) 21:46, 26 May 2007
Ferrylodge protested that there was no consensus that RCOG was not a "pro-choice" organization because there was no discussion on Talk:RCOG - which is accurate but misleading, as all the discussion had taken place on Talk:Fetal pain.
- Ferrylodge pursues matter to my talk page, culminating in block for harassment
- Ferrylodge tendentiously argues his case across multiple venues
- Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive252#Harassment Charge By Bishonen Against Ferrylodge
- Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Bishonen 2
- Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Bishonen 2
- Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive259#Disruptive editing at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment by Ferrylodge regarding Ferrylodge edit warring for his Rfc summary of "No conclusion. Closed per agreement. No agreement reached about harassment charge."[68] which he has since referred to mulitple times, the most recent in bringing this ArbCom case, by saying "I would like to state for the record that KC’s blatantly incorrect RfC summary was ultimately corrected by another editor." [69] Note that his edit summary was blatantly false; mine was modified by Lsi_john to appease Ferrylodge, with my full support. Yet he smears me by referring to this in this manner. He continues also to disparage Bishonen regarding the entire incident.
The womb war
- The edit war (15 through 20 September 2007)
- On Pregnancy: 15:42, 15 September 2007 Ferrylodge replaces "woman" with "mother", "uterus" with "womb" and "fetus" with "baby" [70]
- 15:47, 15 September 2007 partial revert by Ginko100 ("womb" to "uterus") [71]
- 21:12, 15 September 2007 further reverts by Jim62sch ("baby" to "fetus") [72], [73], [74],
- Talk:Pregnancy#Technical language is not preferred begun 16 September 2007 by Ferrylodge: Ferrylodge argues for "womb" (as well as "mother" instead of "woman", "baby" instead of "fetus" and other terms). Consensus does not support these edits.
- 12:12, 17 September 2007 Extensive reverts by 68.163.233.17, citing talk page ("mother" to "woman", "womb" to "uterus" and "baby" to "fetus")[75]
- 03:31, 18 September 2007 Partial revert of "mother" by Ferrylodge [76]
- 18:24, 19 September 2007 Reverted by Tvoz [77]
- On Mother: 14:34, 19 September 2007[78]
- Talk:Stillbirth#Womb and Uterus begun 14:13, 20 September 2007 by Ferrylodge. He received no support and was criticized for forum shopping by several editors (myself included.)
- On Stillbirth, 20 September 2007: [79], [80], [81], [82].
- Ferrylodge personalizes dispute, escalates to violating WP:NPA
- when I referred to "womb" as "vulgar" in an edit summary, and to clarify I posted the definition link to the meaning of vulgar I was using (commonly used language), he removed it with the edit summary " Please do not post at my talk page, KC." - then proceeded to post on his talk page that "she said that I was trying to insert a "vulgar" word into the article. It astounds me that an admin can get away with such incivility, and I find it very difficult to respond in a constructive way to her personal attacks" - which is typical of his tactics, for I must either ignore his misrepresentation of my statement, or ignore his request to not post on his talk page - which surely he learned in his block for harassment would be harassment, as that is precisely what he was last blocked for. In short, he's using the "lessons learned" not to be a better Wikipedian, but to game the system so that he is "innocent" and I am "doing wrong." This is so blatantly misleading it constitutes lying in order to smear me. I am not the only editor he uses these tactics against.
- On Talk:Motherhood, in a discussion begun by User:Pleasantville concerning biological motherhood:
- Ferrylodge accuses Tvoz of wikistalking [83] Tvoz had responded to Pleasantville supporting Pleasantville's idea. She had not addressed any remarks to Ferrylodge. She protested.[84]
- 10:48, 19 September 2007 Pleasantville requested that Ferrylodge "maintain a civil tone"[85]
- 14:07, 19 September 2007 and again, after further edits from Ferrylodge, Pleasantville requests civility from Ferrylodge[86]
- 14:31, 19 September 2007 Ferrylodge escalates his attacks, calling Pleasantville "condescending", accusing her of "psychoanalyzing, and pretending that my tone is not civil" [87]
- 14:54, 19 September 2007 Pleasantville requests that Ferrylodge "relax and talk" [88]
- 16:19, 21 September 2007 On the CSN noticeboard, Ferrylodge stated that this was his only interaction with Pleasantville, and that "What I do know about Pleasantville is that she is a very unkind editor." citing this interaction as evidence! [89]
- 16:47, 20 September 2007 Ferrylodge was blocked for 3RR on Stillbirth
- Ferrylodege makes unblock request, which consisted primarily of a series of attacks against me, which included the "vulgar" accusation.[90]
- 22:55, 20 September 2007 ElinorD corrected two of his attacks, stating "And Ferrylodge, KillerChihuahua has already pointed out that "vulgar" has more than one meaning. Nor did she imply that you were "congenitally dense". She said that your behaviour served no purpose, "unless your purpose [was] to convice others you are congenitally dense." That's quite different" [91]
- 23:10, 20 September 2007 Ferrylodge continued his attacks on me[92]
Fetus image on Abortion
This has been discussed at least 6 times, and the consensus is that images of fetuses are not appropriate. This is now in the FAQ for the article (with links to disucssions). This question was raised again by a drive-by editor on 16 August 2007 in Talk:Abortion#Images_of_Abortion. Again, strong majority favored no images. Ferrylodge supported inclusion of images. During this dispute, Ferrylodge engaged in personal attacks and repeatedly edit warred against well-established and current consensus.
- Ferrylodge edits against WP:CON
- 04:08, 19 September 2007 Talk:Abortion: Ferrylodge states his intention to add a POV tag because his image is not supported [93]
- 04:23, 19 September 2007 Abortion: Ferrylodge adds image of fetus to Fetal pain section of article [94]
- 06:32, 19 September 2007 Talk:Abortion: Tvoz objects to image [95]
- 15:58, 19 September 2007 Abortion: Image removed by Lion's Heart with edit summary "Take out POV image. POV problem solved. This was proposed on the talk page, but they just went ahead and added it anyway, w/o consensus. Allow discussion. Don't force your hand." [96]
- 17:26, 19 September 2007 Talk:Abortion:I commented that the image was not only against consensus, but added in a completely inappropriate section (Fetal pain) [97]
- 21:21, 19 September 2007 Talk:Abortion:Andrew c with edit summary "can't we lighten up a bit?" attempts to lighten the situation with a little gallows humor [98]
- Ferrylodge escalates to violating WP:NPA
- 15:01, 20 September 2007 Talk:Abortion: At this point, Ferrylodge attacked both Andrew c and myself, accusing us of ridiculing the notion of fetal pain. His only possible "evidence" for this is my agreement with the removal of the image, and Andrew's attempt to lighten the mood. "I think it should be clear that admins here such as Andrew c and Killerchuhuahua ridicule the notion of fetal pain, and are determined to make sure that their pro-choice POV is fully reflected in this article" [99] This is a personal attack due to our not supporting this inappropriate image against long established consensus. Ferrylodge is attempting to intimidate us into not opposing his unsupported and inappropriate addition. He underlined his position by adding a POV tag to the article.[100]
- 15:11, 20 September 2007 I responded.[101] This is the "bullshit" edit summary. I stand by that assessment. To accuse Andrew c of POV, and to further smear him with the allegation that he has "ridiculed" fetal pain, due to one light comment on the talk page, is to misrepresent Andrew's post in the worst possible light - indeed, in such a light that I cannot in good faith believe that Ferrylodge could have so badly misinterpreted Andrew's action, and find this to be a deliberate attempt at character assassination and intimidation. It is bullshit of the worst order: deliberate and malicious personal attack on another editor. I have no explanation as to why I was included in this attack, as I had merely agreed with the removal of the image which had nothing to do with fetal pain and had no support for addition.
- 16:47, 20 September 2007 Ferrylodge was blocked for 3RR on Stillbirth (see The womb war, above) ending this edit war as well as that one.
Evidence presented by Ali'i
This arbitration is about Ferrylodge's ban
Aloha. This request for arbitration is supposed to be about Ferrylodge's ban. If Odd nature feels like I erred in some way (as noted above), I would request he not muck up this page. If he feels that strongly about it, I would request he start the dispute resolution process with me. I would request though he stops calling me a "FerryLodge supporter". I am a supporter of Wikipedia, and no one editor.
Also, I would also remind Ferrylodge to stick to the topic as well. This isn't an arbitration against KillerChihuahua, et al., nor is it (or shouldn't be) against Ferrylodge. It should be a look into whether or not the ban was valid and in-policy.
Bans are supposed to be a last resort
- Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Ferrylodge (see how that's red?)
- To the best of my searching, no mediation involving any of the disputes.
- A topical ban/revert limit was proposed, and had some support (in various states of enthusiasm), even by those originally in favor of the total ban. [102][103][104][105][106][107]&again[108][109]IP[110]Myself Including from KillerChihuahua at one point ("If the community wishes to give a topic ban, I selfishly would be happy enough, as if he's off the pregnancy and abortion articles I won't have to deal with him any more..."). But it was brushed aside in favor of what is supposed to be a last resort. Ferrylodge has stated for the record that he or she would cooperate with a topical ban or a revert limit.
- You can see the position on this point I raised at the time.
Ferrylodge can be a constructive editor
And why push someone off the project entirely when it is only really the abortion/"womb"/mother/reproductive rights/etc. articles on which he has been "disruptive". A look through his or her mainspace edits shows productive editing (especially on topics not related to abortion). [111]
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Evidence presented by User:Severa
Ferrylodge has long met definition of "disruptive editor"
- Ferrylodge has been engaged in ideologically-motivated editing of same range of abortion, pregnancy, and politics-related articles since December 2006, meeting "is tendentious" criterion of definition of a disruptive editor.
- Ferrylodge continues to press issues despite opposing consensuses, meeting "Rejects community input" criterion of WP:DE, and spreads editing campaigns across several articles at once with goal of "exhausting the patience of productive rules-abiding editors on certain articles" as outlined in fourth criterion.
- Example 1: Added "pro-choice" description to RCOG article[112] although another editor had already objected to such a description at Fetal pain.[113] Added "pro-choice" to RCOG twice more[114][115] despite concerns from 2 more users (myself included).[116][117]
- Example 2: At Talk:Pregnancy, advocated addition of image he hadn't gained consensus for at Talk:Fetus,[118] and, when 3 editors (myself included) agreed the image was no more appropriate at Pregnancy than at Fetus,[119] [120] [121] he responded by suggesting that a series of anatomical drawings of pregnant women be removed from the article, describing them as "pro-choice." [122] Five minutes later, he went ahead and removed the diagrams,[123] and did so three more times, after they were restored by myself and Gillyweed. [124] [125] [126] He then tried to have the images deleted on Commons.[127]
- Example 3: Inserted "womb" into Stillbirth 4 times starting at 13:01, 20 September[128][129][130][131] after making comments regarding term's apparent disuse at both Talk:Abortion and Talk:Pregnancy on Sept. 16.[132][133] 6 editors gave reasons for or commented on disuse of "womb" in the period prior to 13:01, 20 September.[134][135][136][137][138][139]
- Example 4: Changed "Freddie" to "Fred" at Fred Thompson 7 times in 24-hour period.[140][141][142][143][144][145][146]
Ferrylodge has history of incivility toward other editors
- Ferrylodge has conducted himself in a manner consistent with the "Campaign to drive away productive contributors" criterion of WP:DE. He generally does not let matters rest, even when consensus is against him, and this has "exhaust[ed] the general community's patience" and pushed some editors to their limit (including myself, who avoided Wikipedia entirely for 2 months,[147] and Andrew c, who was driven away from Ferrylodge-frequented articles for a time in March[148]).
- Ferrylodge has a habit of personalizing disputes, focusing, sometimes single-mindedly, on the contributor, not the content:
- Example 1: Opened RfC against Bishonen on June 5, despite being advised against such by ALoan on May 29, who also recommended first testing the waters on A/NI.[149][150] Ferrylodge went to A/NI on May 30, where most agreed Bishonen's block was justified,[151] but Ferrylodge still proceeded with the RfC.
- Example 2: Inserted himself into a minor dispute which arose between myself and an anonymous editor on Vaccine controversy, although the dispute did not involve him, and he'd never edited the article in question.[152]
- KillerChihuahua said in her RfArb statement that Ferrylodge has a history of deliberately misrepresenting others and I can provide one possible example of this. At Talk:Pregnancy, he made it out as though an image had been objected to earlier at Talk:Fetus only because of the subject's marital status/gender,[153] when I'd said I found the wedding band distracting (among other issues with the image),[154] and SheffieldSteel that the "hand of a white, male, married adult" did not help him determine the fetal model's size.[155] Ferrylodge persisted with this representation[156] of our statements even after I'd attempted to set the record straight.[157]
- Ferrylodge has a history of incivil remarks, namely, calling Swatjester "vapid",[158] stating to me "My regard for you is I'm sure as [low as] yours for me, probably a lot lower" and then "What a fine bunch you people are" to the room at large in one post,[159] telling Pleasantville to "stop condescending and psychoanalyzing"[160] after she said "Please try to adopt a more civil tone. You seem to be extremely anxious about this",[161] stating to me "Your bullying is not going to intimidate me from using common sense and neutral information at Wikipedia",[162] and, when asked what he learned from the RfC, "That you can pretty much get away with murder at Wikipedia, as long as you have a big pack of people to back you up."[163]
A ban would be a last resort
- Ferrylodge has had 3 blocks for 3RR since December 2006.[164] This has been going on for 10 months now — plenty time to learn how to edit constructively and cooperatively.
- Musical Linguist tried reaching out to Ferrylodge after the Bishonen RfC [165] but he declined the offer.[166] Ferrylodge is careful to note he is sorry for his "most recent 3RR block"[167] and "two 3RR violations"[168], meaning he's sorry for the InShaneee block in Dec. 2006 and the FeloniousMonk block in Sept. 2007, but not the Bishonen block from June 2007 — the one precipitated by repeated posting on KC's talk page after being asked to stop. I don't think ArbCom's decision should hinge upon Ferrylodge's contrition, but, the fact that he has yet to acknowledge the error of his conduct in this and many other instances — let alone apologize for it — is worth noting.
- A topic ban, 0RR, or 1RR would only address half the issue. It might stop the edit-warring on certain articles but it would not guarantee that Ferrylodge would be civil to other editors in the future.
- Concerns over Ferrylodge's conduct predate the CSN request by months and so it — or the Community Sanction Noticeboard itself — should not be the sole focus of this ArbCom case.
Evidence presented by Bishonen
The RfC/Bishonen is a useful illustration of Ferrylodge's argumentation technique
This RFAr doesn't offer any attempts at previous dispute resolution between Ferrylodge and his critics/opponents, and no request for comment on Ferrylodge has been undertaken. I suggest that the arbcom can somewhat make up for this shortfall by reading the request for comment on myself which Ferrylodge brought in June 2007, and which illustrates his manner of argumentation when in conflict. Note especially the discussions on the talkpage. Bishonen | talk 22:19, 18 October 2007 (UTC).
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