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* The board was deactivated by community consensus at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Community sanction noticeboard (second nomination)]]. |
* The board was deactivated by community consensus at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Community sanction noticeboard (second nomination)]]. |
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* Community bans ought to be the last step, not the first step in dispute resolution and users ought not to be AFD'd/ |
* Community bans ought to be the last step, not the first step in dispute resolution and users ought not to be AFD'd/ |
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==Evidence presented by [[User:Ferrylodge]]== |
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===Ferrylodge Was Not Allowed to Rebut Accusations at Community Sanction Noticeboard (CSN)=== |
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I (Ferrylodge) was only allowed to comment at the Community Sanction Noticeboard (CSN) during a window of several hours in the middle of the CSN discussions, and therefore I had no opportunity to rebut numerous CSN allegations that resulted in my banishment from Wikipedia. This is shown by the following timeline: |
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17 September 2007 – Ferrylodge was in ''Washington Post'' article, [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/16/AR2007091601699.html?nav=emailpage] later cited to help justify banishment from Wikipedia.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ACommunity_sanction_noticeboard&diff=159281472&oldid=159279765][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AList_of_banned_users&diff=160561283&oldid=160554326] |
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16:45, 20 September 2007 - Mastcell blocked Ferrylodge for 3RR at [[Stillbirth]] article.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Ferrylodge] |
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22:49, 20 September 2007 – Mastcell recommended dispute resolution be pursued after 3RR block.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AFerrylodge&diff=159270090&oldid=159268818] |
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23:32, 20 September 2007 - KillerChihuahua began CSN discussion to ban Ferrylodge.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ACommunity_sanction_noticeboard&diff=159277562&oldid=159193695] |
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00:45, 21 September 2007 - Ferrylodge requested unblock to participate at CSN.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AFerrylodge&diff=159290621&oldid=159289924] |
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03:05, 21 September 2007 - Mastcell made good faith attempt to unblock Ferrylodge to participate at CSN.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AFerrylodge&diff=159312916&oldid=159301887] |
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03:52, 21 September 2007 - Ferrylodge stated that he was still unable to edit CSN.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AFerrylodge&diff=159318870&oldid=159316902] |
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05:57, 21 September 2007 - Ferrylodge made his first statement on CSN.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Community_sanction_noticeboard&oldid=159668772#Reply_to_KillerChihuahua.27s_Proposed_Community_Ban] |
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16:19, 21 September 2007 - Ferrylodge made his last statement at CSN.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ACommunity_sanction_noticeboard&diff=159416911&oldid=159415937] |
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18:23, 21 September 2007 - FeloniousMonk banned Ferrylodge.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Ferrylodge] |
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20:48, 21 September 2007 - Mastcell apologized for lingering autoblock of Ferrylodge.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AFerrylodge&diff=159468641&oldid=159442218] |
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22:03, 21 September 2007 - Vote on banning Ferrylodge began at CSN after he was already banned.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Community_sanction_noticeboard&oldid=159668772#Proposals] |
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16:02, 22 September 2007 – Voting and commenting at CSN on Ferrylodge came to an end.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Community_sanction_noticeboard&oldid=159668772#Proposals] |
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03:28, 6 October 2007 – CSN nominated for deletion.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Community_sanction_noticeboard_%28second_nomination%29&oldid=162595604] |
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20:30, 8 October 2007 – Ferrylodge unblocked for purposes of appealing to ARBCOM. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Ferrylodge] |
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23:04, 9 October 2007 – Ferrylodge posts for the first time at Requests for Arbitration.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_arbitration&diff=163434775&oldid=163422627] |
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03:18, 11 October 2007 – CSN abolished.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ACommunity_sanction_noticeboard&diff=163726422&oldid=163724391] |
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===Ferrylodge Has Apologized=== |
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I have apologized for the two 3RR violations that have earned me blocks here at Wikipedia.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_arbitration&diff=163716797&oldid=163716058] |
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I have suggested a 1RR limitation for awhile, due to my two 3RR blocks.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_arbitration&diff=163792159&oldid=163786117] |
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I have also apologized, for example, about a benign edit summary in January 2007 regarding “killing the chihuahua.”[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_arbitration&diff=163802177&oldid=163800560] |
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===Banning Ferrylodge is Opposed by Various Administrators=== |
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Administrator B has stated, “I am an admin and yes, I am willing to overturn the block - I firmly believe the ban is incorrect both on the facts of the case and on the process that was followed.”[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_arbitration&diff=163835146&oldid=163833788] |
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Administrator Y has stated, “Ferrylodge did do a lot of very useful mainspace editing, and that by banning a user like him we are harming the project.”[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=163974930] |
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===FeloniousMonk Shouldn't Have Banned Ferrylodge and Explanation From Him Has Been Requested=== |
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FeloniousMonk banned me for "harassment,"[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Ferrylodge] even though FeloniousMonk was involved in the brief discussions at the CSN,[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Community_sanction_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=159400548] and even though FeloniousMonk had previously made related accusations against me.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:FeloniousMonk&oldid=164746336#ArbCom] |
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I stated in my arbitration request that I would like to address specific accusations of alleged harassment that are identified by FeloniousMonk as most serious, “before addressing less serious accusations.”[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_arbitration&diff=163434775&oldid=163422627] FeloniousMonk has thus far not identified such specific instances of alleged harassment.[[User:Ferrylodge|Ferrylodge]] 03:26, 16 October 2007 (UTC) |
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Evidence presented by User:Rocksanddirt
Ferrylodge was banned appropriately by the CSN
Following this discussion and the users attempts to manipulate it, he was banned. I feel that it would have been better for the ban to have waited another 24 or 48 hrs to happen, but consensus was for site ban, not one of the alternative proposals. --Rocksanddirt 17:37, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Evidence presented by User:B
Timeline
All times GMT if I did the math right - please correct if I didn't
- Ferrylodge (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) - edit count
- 02:09, 29 April 2004 - Ferrylodge's first edit
- ca December 2006 - Ferrylodge becomes a regular contributor (169 total edits prior)
- 16:45, 20 September 2007 - MastCell blocked for a 3RR violation on Stillbirth (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- 23:32, 20 September 2007 - KillerChihuahua proposes the ban [1]
- 03:05, 21 September 2007 - MastCell unblocked Ferrylodge so that he could participate in the CSN discussion)
- 18:23, 21 September 2007 - FeloniousMonk made the indefinite block
KillerChihuahua and Ferrylodge
- KillerChihuahua (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
- 15:11, 20 September 2007 - KillerChihuahua makes a highly incivil comment to Ferrylodge, just 8 hours before proposing the ban
FeloniousMonk
- FeloniousMonk (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
- FeloniousMonk was a participant in the discussion [2] and should not have made the block.
The Community sanction noticeboard met with widespread community disapproval
- The board was deactivated by community consensus at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Community sanction noticeboard (second nomination).
- Community bans ought to be the last step, not the first step in dispute resolution and users ought not to be AFD'd/
Evidence presented by User:Ferrylodge
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Ferrylodge Was Not Allowed to Rebut Accusations at Community Sanction Noticeboard (CSN)
I (Ferrylodge) was only allowed to comment at the Community Sanction Noticeboard (CSN) during a window of several hours in the middle of the CSN discussions, and therefore I had no opportunity to rebut numerous CSN allegations that resulted in my banishment from Wikipedia. This is shown by the following timeline:
17 September 2007 – Ferrylodge was in Washington Post article, [3] later cited to help justify banishment from Wikipedia.[4][5]
16:45, 20 September 2007 - Mastcell blocked Ferrylodge for 3RR at Stillbirth article.[6]
22:49, 20 September 2007 – Mastcell recommended dispute resolution be pursued after 3RR block.[7]
23:32, 20 September 2007 - KillerChihuahua began CSN discussion to ban Ferrylodge.[8]
00:45, 21 September 2007 - Ferrylodge requested unblock to participate at CSN.[9]
03:05, 21 September 2007 - Mastcell made good faith attempt to unblock Ferrylodge to participate at CSN.[10]
03:52, 21 September 2007 - Ferrylodge stated that he was still unable to edit CSN.[11]
05:57, 21 September 2007 - Ferrylodge made his first statement on CSN.[12]
16:19, 21 September 2007 - Ferrylodge made his last statement at CSN.[13]
18:23, 21 September 2007 - FeloniousMonk banned Ferrylodge.[14]
20:48, 21 September 2007 - Mastcell apologized for lingering autoblock of Ferrylodge.[15]
22:03, 21 September 2007 - Vote on banning Ferrylodge began at CSN after he was already banned.[16]
16:02, 22 September 2007 – Voting and commenting at CSN on Ferrylodge came to an end.[17]
03:28, 6 October 2007 – CSN nominated for deletion.[18]
20:30, 8 October 2007 – Ferrylodge unblocked for purposes of appealing to ARBCOM. [19]
23:04, 9 October 2007 – Ferrylodge posts for the first time at Requests for Arbitration.[20]
03:18, 11 October 2007 – CSN abolished.[21]
Ferrylodge Has Apologized
I have apologized for the two 3RR violations that have earned me blocks here at Wikipedia.[22] I have suggested a 1RR limitation for awhile, due to my two 3RR blocks.[23] I have also apologized, for example, about a benign edit summary in January 2007 regarding “killing the chihuahua.”[24]
Banning Ferrylodge is Opposed by Various Administrators
Administrator B has stated, “I am an admin and yes, I am willing to overturn the block - I firmly believe the ban is incorrect both on the facts of the case and on the process that was followed.”[25]
Administrator Y has stated, “Ferrylodge did do a lot of very useful mainspace editing, and that by banning a user like him we are harming the project.”[26]
FeloniousMonk Shouldn't Have Banned Ferrylodge and Explanation From Him Has Been Requested
FeloniousMonk banned me for "harassment,"[27] even though FeloniousMonk was involved in the brief discussions at the CSN,[28] and even though FeloniousMonk had previously made related accusations against me.[29]
I stated in my arbitration request that I would like to address specific accusations of alleged harassment that are identified by FeloniousMonk as most serious, “before addressing less serious accusations.”[30] FeloniousMonk has thus far not identified such specific instances of alleged harassment.Ferrylodge 03:26, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
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