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::I added in a reference a song by Cher about a dark lady, called Dark Lady. Sifting through various results in Google news, I see them refer to Hela from Marvel's Thor series as a dark lady. [http://en.koreaportal.com/articles/31465/20170413/avengers-infinity-war-might-cast-thor-ragnarok-dark-lady-villain-hela-as-the-mcu-s-take-on-the-lady-death-character.htm] [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>''']] 18:06, 2 March 2018 (UTC) |
::I added in a reference a song by Cher about a dark lady, called Dark Lady. Sifting through various results in Google news, I see them refer to Hela from Marvel's Thor series as a dark lady. [http://en.koreaportal.com/articles/31465/20170413/avengers-infinity-war-might-cast-thor-ragnarok-dark-lady-villain-hela-as-the-mcu-s-take-on-the-lady-death-character.htm] [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>''']] 18:06, 2 March 2018 (UTC) |
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:::{{re|Dream Focus}} Use of "lady" as a noun-adjunct (they actually refer to her as a "dark lady villain") is clearly unrelated. She is a villain who is both dark and a lady. Please be more careful with sourcing, and stop !voting down AFDs based solely on principle while trying to find "sources" that might seem to support your principle if other editors don't actually click on them. [[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 20:09, 2 March 2018 (UTC) |
:::{{re|Dream Focus}} Use of "lady" as a noun-adjunct (they actually refer to her as a "dark lady villain") is clearly unrelated. She is a villain who is both dark and a lady. Please be more careful with sourcing, and stop !voting down AFDs based solely on principle while trying to find "sources" that might seem to support your principle if other editors don't actually click on them. [[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 20:09, 2 March 2018 (UTC) |
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::::Stop [[WP:HOUNDING]] me. You know that's against the rules. You have no possible reason to be following me around constantly. You did so here and also at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FList_of_General_Caste_in_Sikhism_%282nd_nomination%29&type=revision&diff=828477183&oldid=828476359] which was not tagged for the Article Rescue Squadron. [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>''']] 20:29, 2 March 2018 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' [[Dark Lady (Shakespeare)]] already exists, and everything else in the article except for a single line about Latinas is unsourced (and for some reason the GBooks link there is returning [https://books.google.co.jp/books?id=EuOhmgnKS1EC&pg=PA293&dq=Latin+Looks:+Images+of+Latinas+and+Latinos+in+the+U.S.+Media&hl=ja&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiL2bDAts7ZAhWHq5QKHWgsBR4Q6AEIKDAA an error], although I suspect, given that no page number is given, that it doesn't actually talk about a literary archetype called a "Dark Lady" and just says "shadowy woman" or something like that). [[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 20:09, 2 March 2018 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''' [[Dark Lady (Shakespeare)]] already exists, and everything else in the article except for a single line about Latinas is unsourced (and for some reason the GBooks link there is returning [https://books.google.co.jp/books?id=EuOhmgnKS1EC&pg=PA293&dq=Latin+Looks:+Images+of+Latinas+and+Latinos+in+the+U.S.+Media&hl=ja&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiL2bDAts7ZAhWHq5QKHWgsBR4Q6AEIKDAA an error], although I suspect, given that no page number is given, that it doesn't actually talk about a literary archetype called a "Dark Lady" and just says "shadowy woman" or something like that). [[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 20:09, 2 March 2018 (UTC) |
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There is no evidence that this is a legitimate stock character, and most of the article is about the Shakespeare character (which already has its own article at Dark Lady (Shakespeare)). ZXCVBNM (TALK) 19:36, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Keep The stereotype appears in many other works besides Shakespeare. For example, here's another source and yet more. Andrew D. (talk) 21:34, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Apparently there is a tragic mulatto article for that character archetype. Making this article still superflous.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 22:22, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- The mulatto is just one sort of dark lady. The substantial nature of that article, as well as the Shakespeare case, further demonstrates that we need this page as a broad concept article to disambiguate all the various examples and sub-types. As another example of these, see this paper about the dark ladies of Edgar Allan Poe – women who are doomed, dying or dead. Andrew D. (talk) 09:19, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- Apparently there is a tragic mulatto article for that character archetype. Making this article still superflous.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 22:22, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Andrew Davidson: It is WP:OR to connect one author's "Dark Lady" character (in this case, Leslie Fiedler's or Edgar Allan Poe's) with another's (Shakespeare's) without a source that explicitly makes the comparison. Their having the same "name" is not enough. If you want to completely throw out everything in the article and rewrite it to compare Poe's various Dark Ladies to each other, using the Narendra source, that would be fine, but you could do that with the page being deleted as well. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 20:09, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. MT TrainTalk 00:40, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- Keep The Dark Lord (fiction) and Dark Lady are regular components of fiction. Ample references to prove that. Dream Focus 11:04, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- I added in a reference a song by Cher about a dark lady, called Dark Lady. Sifting through various results in Google news, I see them refer to Hela from Marvel's Thor series as a dark lady. [1] Dream Focus 18:06, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Dream Focus: Use of "lady" as a noun-adjunct (they actually refer to her as a "dark lady villain") is clearly unrelated. She is a villain who is both dark and a lady. Please be more careful with sourcing, and stop !voting down AFDs based solely on principle while trying to find "sources" that might seem to support your principle if other editors don't actually click on them. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 20:09, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- Stop WP:HOUNDING me. You know that's against the rules. You have no possible reason to be following me around constantly. You did so here and also at [2] which was not tagged for the Article Rescue Squadron. Dream Focus 20:29, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Dream Focus: Use of "lady" as a noun-adjunct (they actually refer to her as a "dark lady villain") is clearly unrelated. She is a villain who is both dark and a lady. Please be more careful with sourcing, and stop !voting down AFDs based solely on principle while trying to find "sources" that might seem to support your principle if other editors don't actually click on them. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 20:09, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- I added in a reference a song by Cher about a dark lady, called Dark Lady. Sifting through various results in Google news, I see them refer to Hela from Marvel's Thor series as a dark lady. [1] Dream Focus 18:06, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Dark Lady (Shakespeare) already exists, and everything else in the article except for a single line about Latinas is unsourced (and for some reason the GBooks link there is returning an error, although I suspect, given that no page number is given, that it doesn't actually talk about a literary archetype called a "Dark Lady" and just says "shadowy woman" or something like that). Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 20:09, 2 March 2018 (UTC)