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== Syrian Kurdistan == |
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'''Initiated by ''' [[User:GPinkerton|GPinkerton]] ([[User talk:GPinkerton|talk]]) '''at''' 07:34, 6 January 2021 (UTC) |
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=== Involved parties === |
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*{{userlinks|GPinkerton}}, ''filing party'' |
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*{{userlinks|Paradise Chronicle}} |
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*{{userlinks|Levivich}} |
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*{{userlinks|عمرو بن كلثوم}} |
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*{{userlinks|Attar-Aram syria}} |
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*{{userlinks|Thepharoah17}} |
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*{{userlinks|Supreme Deliciousness}} |
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;Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Paradise_Chronicle&diff=prev&oldid=998624764 Paradise Chronicle] |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Levivich&diff=prev&oldid=998624756 Levivich] |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%D8%B9%D9%85%D8%B1%D9%88_%D8%A8%D9%86_%D9%83%D9%84%D8%AB%D9%88%D9%85&diff=prev&oldid=998624750 عمرو بن كلثوم] |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Attar-Aram_syria&diff=prev&oldid=998624742 Attar-Aram syria] |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Thepharoah17&diff=prev&oldid=998624737 Thepharoah17] |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Supreme_Deliciousness&diff=prev&oldid=998624732 Supreme Deliciousness] |
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;Confirmation that other steps in [[Wikipedia:dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] have been tried |
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* [[Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard/Archive_191#Tell_Abyad]] (filed by Paradise Chronicle) |
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* [[Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_317#Is_a_book_by_the_PhD_candidate_Mustafa_Hamza_a_reliable_source_for_a_denial_of_a_Syrian_Kurdistan%3F]] (filed by Paradise Chronicle) |
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* [[Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard/Archive_86#PhD_candidate_as_a_reliable_source_for_a_denial_of_Syrian_Kurdistan_against_the_views_of_multiple_professors_stating_otherwise?]] (filed by Paradise Chronicle) |
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* [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1052#User:عمرو_بن_كلثوم_and_Syrian_Kurdistan]] (filed by GPinkerton) |
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* [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1052#Unequivocal_TENDENTIOUS_editing_by_عمرو_بن_كلثوم_on_Syrian_Kurdistan]] (filed by GPinkerton) |
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* [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1052#Syrian_Kurdistan,_at_war_again]] (filed by GPinkerton) |
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* [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1052#Supreme_Deliciousness_and_WP:TENDENTIOUS_editing_on_Syrian_Kurdistan]] (filed by GPinkerton) |
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* [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive327#Intractable_problem_still_unaddressed_and_unabated;_administrator_action_deficient]] (filed by GPinkerton) |
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* [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Advice_re:_would_we_need_a_new_admin?]] (filed by {{u|Valereee}}) |
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** and section: [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#ARC_or_ARCA?]] (filed by Levivich) |
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* [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Admin_introducing_source_restriction]] (filed by SupremeDeliciousness) |
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=== Statement by GPinkerton === |
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[[User:Paradise Chronicle]], [[User:Levivich]], and I have run into difficulty in a content dispute with editors with whom it has become clear there are conduct and POV-pushing issues; namely the other parties identified in this case. It has become clear that though [[Syrian Kurdistan]] is covered by the General Sanctions applied to the [[Syrian Civil War]] articles, the issues with it and numerous Kurdish-related pages across the Near/Middle East fall outside the direct remit of [[WP:SCW]] sanctions, which have proven unable to resolve the project-wide dispute. Numerous editors have received blocks for their contributions to this topic (including myself, including for having raised multiple ANI reports on the subject). Meanwhile the disruption has continued, as evidenced by the numerous diffs collected by interested parties at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Kurds]], with accompanying disruption: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Kurds&diff=prev&oldid=997272417 this edit for example]. |
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The geopolitical "Kurdish Question" has long been salient in international politics. Kurdistan, the cultural homeland of the Kurds, spans four modern states (Syria, Turkey, Iran, Iraq) and the Kurds are a repressed minority long subjected to state suppression, including 20th-century military offensives, ethnic cleansing, and genocide. Problem behaviours have included: |
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# denying the existence of a (Syrian) Kurdistan. |
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# erasure or "whitewashing" historical events, including denial of ethnic cleansing in the Arab Belt. |
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# removing well-sourced mentions of matters relating to Kurds. |
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# removing mentions of Kurdish populations and names, including moving articles to non-Kurdish place names (such as those changed under the Arab Belt). |
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# using unreliable sources to contradict academic sources. |
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# quoting selectively, misquoting, and misrepresenting sources. |
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On the Syrian Kurdistan page (and elsewhere), editors have been seeking to deny that the Arab Nationalist [[Ba'ath Party]] perpetrated a campaign of ''ethnic cleansing'' known as the "[[Arab Belt]]" in Syrian Kurdistan, and moreover, have questioned that the existence of the place, in the face of numerous reliable sources. (In Iraq, the same party later organized the [[Anfal genocide]].) Editors (particularly [[User:عمرو بن كلثوم]], [[User:Supreme Deliciousness]], and [[User:Thepharoah17]]) argue that the historically Kurdish-majority borderlands of Syria and bordering [[Iraqi Kurdistan]] and [[Turkish Kurdistan]] were not historically populated by Kurds until the post-WWI [[French Mandate of Syria]]. |
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This conduct is beyond the pale in light of the well-attested fact that the national socialist Ba'ath Party's [[Arab Belt]] ethnic cleansing plan in the newly renamed [[Second Syrian Republic|Syrian ''Arab'' Republic]], denied Kurds' civil rights on the fictitious grounds that they were illegal 20th-century immigrants escaping persecution in the Turkish Republic; this exclusion endured until the Civil War. From the 1960s on, it has been a central myth of Syrian Arab nationalism that Kurds do not belong within Syria's modern borders and that Syrian Kurdistan is a figment of Kurdish nationalists' imagination: there is evidence of propagation of this idea on [[Talk:Syrian Kurdistan]] and on many other articles. This is akin to Holocaust denial. |
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[[User:GPinkerton|GPinkerton]] ([[User talk:GPinkerton|talk]]) 07:34, 6 January 2021 (UTC) |
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=== Statement by Paradise Chronicle === |
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=== Statement by Levivich === |
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=== Statement by عمرو بن كلثوم === |
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=== Statement by Attar-Aram syria === |
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=== Statement by Thepharoah17 === |
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=== Statement by Supreme Deliciousness === |
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=== Statement by {Non-party} === |
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Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should address why or why not the Committee should accept the case request or provide additional information. |
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=== Syrian Kurdistan: Clerk notes === |
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:''This area is used for notes by the clerks (including clerk recusals).'' |
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=== Syrian Kurdistan: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/0/0> === |
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{{anchor|1=Syrian Kurdistan: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter}}<small>Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse)</small> |
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Revision as of 07:44, 6 January 2021
Requests for arbitration
Syrian Kurdistan
Initiated by GPinkerton (talk) at 07:34, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
Involved parties
- GPinkerton (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), filing party
- Paradise Chronicle (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Levivich (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- عمرو بن كلثوم (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Attar-Aram syria (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Thepharoah17 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Supreme Deliciousness (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
- Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried
- Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard/Archive_191#Tell_Abyad (filed by Paradise Chronicle)
- Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_317#Is_a_book_by_the_PhD_candidate_Mustafa_Hamza_a_reliable_source_for_a_denial_of_a_Syrian_Kurdistan? (filed by Paradise Chronicle)
- Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard/Archive_86#PhD_candidate_as_a_reliable_source_for_a_denial_of_Syrian_Kurdistan_against_the_views_of_multiple_professors_stating_otherwise? (filed by Paradise Chronicle)
- Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1052#User:عمرو_بن_كلثوم_and_Syrian_Kurdistan (filed by GPinkerton)
- Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1052#Unequivocal_TENDENTIOUS_editing_by_عمرو_بن_كلثوم_on_Syrian_Kurdistan (filed by GPinkerton)
- Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1052#Syrian_Kurdistan,_at_war_again (filed by GPinkerton)
- Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1052#Supreme_Deliciousness_and_WP:TENDENTIOUS_editing_on_Syrian_Kurdistan (filed by GPinkerton)
- Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive327#Intractable_problem_still_unaddressed_and_unabated;_administrator_action_deficient (filed by GPinkerton)
- Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Advice_re:_would_we_need_a_new_admin? (filed by Valereee)
- and section: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#ARC_or_ARCA? (filed by Levivich)
- Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Admin_introducing_source_restriction (filed by SupremeDeliciousness)
Statement by GPinkerton
User:Paradise Chronicle, User:Levivich, and I have run into difficulty in a content dispute with editors with whom it has become clear there are conduct and POV-pushing issues; namely the other parties identified in this case. It has become clear that though Syrian Kurdistan is covered by the General Sanctions applied to the Syrian Civil War articles, the issues with it and numerous Kurdish-related pages across the Near/Middle East fall outside the direct remit of WP:SCW sanctions, which have proven unable to resolve the project-wide dispute. Numerous editors have received blocks for their contributions to this topic (including myself, including for having raised multiple ANI reports on the subject). Meanwhile the disruption has continued, as evidenced by the numerous diffs collected by interested parties at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Kurds, with accompanying disruption: this edit for example.
The geopolitical "Kurdish Question" has long been salient in international politics. Kurdistan, the cultural homeland of the Kurds, spans four modern states (Syria, Turkey, Iran, Iraq) and the Kurds are a repressed minority long subjected to state suppression, including 20th-century military offensives, ethnic cleansing, and genocide. Problem behaviours have included:
- denying the existence of a (Syrian) Kurdistan.
- erasure or "whitewashing" historical events, including denial of ethnic cleansing in the Arab Belt.
- removing well-sourced mentions of matters relating to Kurds.
- removing mentions of Kurdish populations and names, including moving articles to non-Kurdish place names (such as those changed under the Arab Belt).
- using unreliable sources to contradict academic sources.
- quoting selectively, misquoting, and misrepresenting sources.
On the Syrian Kurdistan page (and elsewhere), editors have been seeking to deny that the Arab Nationalist Ba'ath Party perpetrated a campaign of ethnic cleansing known as the "Arab Belt" in Syrian Kurdistan, and moreover, have questioned that the existence of the place, in the face of numerous reliable sources. (In Iraq, the same party later organized the Anfal genocide.) Editors (particularly User:عمرو بن كلثوم, User:Supreme Deliciousness, and User:Thepharoah17) argue that the historically Kurdish-majority borderlands of Syria and bordering Iraqi Kurdistan and Turkish Kurdistan were not historically populated by Kurds until the post-WWI French Mandate of Syria.
This conduct is beyond the pale in light of the well-attested fact that the national socialist Ba'ath Party's Arab Belt ethnic cleansing plan in the newly renamed Syrian Arab Republic, denied Kurds' civil rights on the fictitious grounds that they were illegal 20th-century immigrants escaping persecution in the Turkish Republic; this exclusion endured until the Civil War. From the 1960s on, it has been a central myth of Syrian Arab nationalism that Kurds do not belong within Syria's modern borders and that Syrian Kurdistan is a figment of Kurdish nationalists' imagination: there is evidence of propagation of this idea on Talk:Syrian Kurdistan and on many other articles. This is akin to Holocaust denial. GPinkerton (talk) 07:34, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
Statement by Paradise Chronicle
Statement by Levivich
Statement by عمرو بن كلثوم
Statement by Attar-Aram syria
Statement by Thepharoah17
Statement by Supreme Deliciousness
Statement by {Non-party}
Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should address why or why not the Committee should accept the case request or provide additional information.
Syrian Kurdistan: Clerk notes
- This area is used for notes by the clerks (including clerk recusals).
Syrian Kurdistan: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/0/0>
Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse)