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::The arbitrators are of course correct that the motion is premature before the evidence is posted and examined. But from my position as an observer of the disputes, the assertion that one person is responsible for the lack of progress on the article seems absurd. I trust evidence will be presented to offset that claim and put it in perspective. [[User:Woonpton|Woonpton]] ([[User talk:Woonpton|talk]]) 21:19, 15 February 2011 (UTC) |
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Motion by Martin Hogbin
1) That the accusations of gross incivility, personal attacks, and edit warring against one editor in particular be dismissed.
This argument has lasted nearly three years now and has got a little heated at times with most editors losing their temper at times and making over-the-top remarks. That one or more editors might have briefly overstepped the mark in nearly three years of heated argument should not make an arbitration case.
The accusation of a SPA is a laughable case of wikilawyering and the RfC ended in no action of any kind. This is clearly an attempt by the filing party to discredit editors who disagree with him and should be recognised by the arbitrators as such and dismissed. Martin Hogbin (talk) 23:18, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
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- I don't think we're in a position to dismiss any of the case at this time. However, the parties can rest assured that we rarely base a finding or sanction on isolated remarks or losses of temper, but rather only on a consistent or serious pattern of misconduct. Newyorkbrad (talk) 23:26, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- Brad has it right. We will wait to see what evidence is provided to substantiate complaints before considering any claims. SirFozzie (talk) 07:27, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
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- I support the motion (and agree with the supporting arguments), full heartedly. Richard Gill (talk) 15:19, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
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- The arbitrators are of course correct that the motion is premature before the evidence is posted and examined. But from my position as an observer of the disputes, the assertion that one person is responsible for the lack of progress on the article seems absurd. I trust evidence will be presented to offset that claim and put it in perspective. Woonpton (talk) 21:19, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
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- Non-workshop question moved to case talk page. (X! · talk) · @262 · 05:17, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
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