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Merging two duplicate requests from above, into request for closure of the entire RfC not just one segment of it. I originally requested closure on 11:13, 1 September 2016 (UTC), and noted that the later thread [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Sandwiching]] is an extended part of the RfC discussion as well. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 21:43, 6 September 2016 (UTC) |
Merging two duplicate requests from above, into request for closure of the entire RfC not just one segment of it. I originally requested closure on 11:13, 1 September 2016 (UTC), and noted that the later thread [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Sandwiching]] is an extended part of the RfC discussion as well. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 21:43, 6 September 2016 (UTC) |
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Requests for Comment
Talk:Eidetic memory#WP:RfC: Should the article be strict in stating that photographic memory and eidetic memory are not the same thing?
Things look okay at the article these days, but this discussion should have a close to help put the previous dispute to bed. Keep in mind that the question is not simply about distinguishing the terms (which is something the article already does); it's about whether we should strictly distinguish them (as in say they are not the same thing and leave it at that). Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 20:40, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Abkhazia#RfC on Infobox
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Abkhazia#RfC on Infobox (Initiated 2893 days ago on 21 June 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:10, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Order of the Netherlands Lion#RfC, Name of the article
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Order of the Netherlands Lion#RfC, Name of the article (Initiated 2886 days ago on 28 June 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:10, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Doctor Who (series 9)#Another RfC: Episode Groupings
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Doctor Who (series 9)#Another RfC: Episode Groupings (Initiated 2885 days ago on 29 June 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:10, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RFC: should galleries use mode=packed by default?
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RFC: should galleries use mode=packed by default? (Initiated 2890 days ago on 24 June 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:10, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
- Give it some more time. It seems that technical improvements are in the pipeline, which may affect the options available. Deryck C. 14:15, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
- Deryck Chan (talk · contribs), I've fixed the initiated date from 19 July 2016 to 24 June 2016. I listed it here because it had been archived. Cunard (talk) 05:38, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
- My apologies. It got archived already... I'm not sure that discussion has a closure action as it is. You can slap an {{archive top}} and {{archive bottom}} onto it if you feel necessary? Deryck C. 09:45, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
Marking as not done for the bot for now, because I'm not sure what there is to do. Deryck C. 23:21, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
- Deryck Chan (talk · contribs), why is there nothing to do? The proposal was to move galleries from
mode=traditional
by default tomode=packed
by default. The proposal received much discussion from the community. An RfC close would determine whether the proposal was successful. If it is successful, then the technical change could be implemented, If it not successful, then a close would note that and possibly summarize points of agreement that could help frame future discussions. I've removed the not done tag. I have not closed the discussion myself because I would not be an objective closer for this subject. Cunard (talk) 00:03, 8 August 2016 (UTC)- @Cunard: In that case would it make more sense to re-open the discussion (by moving it back to the main noticeboard) first, then close again after another few days? Deryck C. 17:10, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
- I've unarchived the discussion and added my opinion. I agree with closing this after a few days. Cunard (talk) 05:50, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Cunard: In that case would it make more sense to re-open the discussion (by moving it back to the main noticeboard) first, then close again after another few days? Deryck C. 17:10, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
- Deryck Chan (talk · contribs), why is there nothing to do? The proposal was to move galleries from
Wikipedia talk:Harassment#Can other site accounts ever be linked to
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Harassment#Can other site accounts ever be linked to (Initiated 2884 days ago on 30 June 2016)? The discussion is listed at Template:Centralized discussion. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:10, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
- I'm thinking a three-person closure (Including at least one user who handles non-public information on a regular basis) would be advisable for this discussion. I'll volunteer with the admission that I am probably one of the worst people to close this, so I'll defer to basically any other team of three. Tazerdadog (talk) 01:00, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Cunard and Tazerdadog:
Am up for it. Deryck C. 13:30, 1 August 2016 (UTC)- Ok, so we need at least one more, and someone who has handled private info on a regular basis. Tazerdadog (talk) 06:46, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
The WP:Signpost has just run two issues that discuss the issue at hand extensively. This is likely to generate a lot extra participation in the debate in the coming week or so, which will hopefully generate new arguments and possibly affect the outcome. I think we should hold on for at least two more weeks before closure. Deryck C. 23:20, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
- Two weeks might be excessive, but a week is certainly a good idea. Tazerdadog (talk) 10:23, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Cunard and Tazeradog: Okay, probably time to get people to close this. Any nominations on "someone who has handled private info on a regular basis"? I have handled personal information for Wikimedia before, but that's in the context of organising meatspace Wikimedia events. Deryck C. 12:57, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
- Pinging Euryalus (talk · contribs) and HJ Mitchell (talk · contribs), oversighters who have posted in WP:ANRFC recently. Would one of you be able to join Tazerdadog and Deryck Chan in closing the discussion? Or do you know how to reach out to others who have "handled private info on a regular basis"? Cunard (talk) 05:59, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping, but I should decline the offer given I've directly contributed to the debate on a couple of occasions, as well as the Signpost editorial comment section. The best ways to reach others who handled routinely handled private information. would be a neutrally-worded email to functionaries-en@lists.wikimedia.org, which will reach current CU's and Oversighters plus a small collection of former arbs. Someone who hasn't taken part in the debate would hopefully then step forward to help with the close. -- Euryalus (talk) 06:23, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- Pinging Euryalus (talk · contribs) and HJ Mitchell (talk · contribs), oversighters who have posted in WP:ANRFC recently. Would one of you be able to join Tazerdadog and Deryck Chan in closing the discussion? Or do you know how to reach out to others who have "handled private info on a regular basis"? Cunard (talk) 05:59, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Cunard and Tazeradog: Okay, probably time to get people to close this. Any nominations on "someone who has handled private info on a regular basis"? I have handled personal information for Wikimedia before, but that's in the context of organising meatspace Wikimedia events. Deryck C. 12:57, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Rajka Baković#Request for comments
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Rajka Baković#Request for comments (Initiated 2880 days ago on 4 July 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 03:22, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Rolfing/Archive 4#NPOV - Request for Comments - Contentious Labels - "Quackery" "Pseudoscience" Opinions Stated as Fact
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Rolfing/Archive 4#NPOV - Request for Comments - Contentious Labels - "Quackery" "Pseudoscience" Opinions Stated as Fact (Initiated 2877 days ago on 7 July 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 03:22, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Earthquake prediction#RfC re neutrality/POV issues
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Earthquake prediction#RfC re neutrality/POV issues (Initiated 2868 days ago on 16 July 2016)? See the subsection Talk:Earthquake prediction#Non-Participation, where a participant expressed a desire for closure: "Is that a possible outcome: no closure at all, or a 'no consensus' close to the RFC, after all this discussion? Sigh... I was at least hoping that a close might decide whether 'natural time' and the VAN prediction of 2008 can be mentioned in the article." Thanks, Cunard (talk) 03:22, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Extraterrestrial atmosphere#Confusing article titles
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Extraterrestrial atmosphere#Confusing article titles (Initiated 2878 days ago on 6 July 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 03:22, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Singla#RFC: Is Singla a Jatt caste?
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Singla#RFC: Is Singla a Jatt caste? (Initiated 2862 days ago on 22 July 2016)? There is an edit war over the outcome of the RfC regarding whether the page is a disambiguation page. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 03:22, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation#Request for Comment: Disambiguation and inherently ambiguous titles
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation#Request for Comment: Disambiguation and inherently ambiguous titles (Initiated 2872 days ago on 12 July 2016)? The previous RfC was at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 129#Wikipedia:Disambiguation and inherently ambiguous titles. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 03:22, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Notability#Systemic Bias: Proposing a separate standard of notability and Wikipedia talk:Notability#Adding ways to assess Systemic Bias to WP:N
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfCs at Wikipedia talk:Notability#Systemic Bias: Proposing a separate standard of notability and Wikipedia talk:Notability#Adding ways to assess Systemic Bias to WP:N (Initiated 2880 days ago on 4 July 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 03:22, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Novak Djokovic#RfC Novak's mother
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Novak Djokovic#RfC Novak's mother? (Initiated 2868 days ago on 16 July 2016) Vanjagenije (talk) 18:25, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
- I was just here to request this to see that it has already been done. I endorse this request. 89.164.194.127 (talk) 23:17, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Assault rifle#False, unsourced claim, and generally the article's a mess of Apocrypha and bias
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Assault rifle#False, unsourced claim, and generally the article's a mess of Apocrypha and bias (Initiated 2874 days ago on 10 July 2016)? My RfC close of this discussion was contested. I considered this an uncontroversial, "consensus is clear" close, which has turned out to be an incorrect assumption so I have undone my close. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:33, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
- If we could hurry this one along that would be nice.TeeTylerToe (talk) 23:20, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh_conflict#Merge
An outdated merger discussion from April 2016.GreyShark (dibra) 14:59, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Closure by an uninvolved admin is needed at Talk:Gustav Holst#RfC on removal of hidden comment, please. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:41, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:B. Alan Wallace#Request for comment
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:B. Alan Wallace#Request for comment (Initiated 2865 days ago on 19 July 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Iraq War#RFC: What is the subject of this article?
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Iraq War#RFC: What is the subject of this article? (Initiated 2862 days ago on 22 July 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Monosodium glutamate#RFC
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Monosodium glutamate#RFC (Initiated 2865 days ago on 19 July 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Geodakyan's evolutionary theory of sex#RFC on relevance and context
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Geodakyan's evolutionary theory of sex#RFC on relevance and context (Initiated 2860 days ago on 24 July 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:List of best-selling albums in the United States#Request for comment on use of sources
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of best-selling albums in the United States#Request for comment on use of sources (Initiated 2865 days ago on 19 July 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Frank Gaffney#RfC: Should Gaffney be described as a "conspiracy theorist" instead of "proponent of conspiracy theories"?
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Frank Gaffney#RfC: Should Gaffney be described as a "conspiracy theorist" instead of "proponent of conspiracy theories"? (Initiated 2863 days ago on 21 July 2016)? Please consider the closed RfC Talk:Frank Gaffney#"Conspiracy Theorist" in your close. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Donald Trump/Archive 20#RFC:Should Judge Curiel’s membership in the Hispanic National Bar Association be in the Donald Trump article?
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Donald Trump/Archive 20#RFC:Should Judge Curiel’s membership in the Hispanic National Bar Association be in the Donald Trump article? (Initiated 2842 days ago on 11 August 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Sonic the Hedgehog (1991 video game)#Should Japanese names of subjects without Wikipedia articles be footnoted?
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Sonic the Hedgehog (1991 video game)#Should Japanese names of subjects without Wikipedia articles be footnoted? (Initiated 2868 days ago on 16 July 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:List of WWE Intercontinental Champions#Requests for comment
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of WWE Intercontinental Champions#Requests for comment (Initiated 2863 days ago on 21 July 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Non-free content/Archive 66#RfC for NFCC#8 exemptions for currency and USPS stamps
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content/Archive 66#RfC for NFCC#8 exemptions for currency and USPS stamps (Initiated 2856 days ago on 28 July 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive283#Request to appeal unblock conditions (voluntary topic ban)
Would an admin assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive283#Request to appeal unblock conditions (voluntary topic ban) (Initiated 2832 days ago on 21 August 2016)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Donald Trump#RfC: Donald Trump's false campaign statements
Would an experienced editor, preferably someone who doesn't have strong feelings for or against Donald Trump (does such a person exist?), please assess the consensus at Talk:Donald Trump#RfC: Donald Trump's false campaign statements? Thanks. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 17:37, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Arrow (season 1)#RFC: First or Last Names?
The 30 day period has ended. Will an uninvolved editor please close the RfC and state their decision? --HamedH94 (talk) 06:29, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
Help talk:Hidden text #RfC on status of this page
This is a proposal to designate that help page as a guideline. As it has broad implications, I would like a formal closure by an uninvolved editor, please. (Initiated 2835 days ago on 18 August 2016) Discussion petered out a week ago. It has been open less than the default of 30 days, but more than the 7 day minimum per Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines #Good practice for proposals. Thanks, --RexxS (talk) 00:11, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Noël Coward#RfC: Should an Infobox be added to the page?
An uninvolved admin will be needed to close this RfC on 14 September (or sooner if discussion ends, but that's unlikely). I'm requesting admin closure because it has been a contentious debate. It would be ideal if someone could volunteer soon, so that there's lots of time to become familiar with the comments and background. Many thanks, SarahSV (talk) 18:48, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#RfC: What (if anything) to do about quotations, and the quotation templates?
Merging two duplicate requests from above, into request for closure of the entire RfC not just one segment of it. I originally requested closure on 11:13, 1 September 2016 (UTC), and noted that the later thread Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Sandwiching is an extended part of the RfC discussion as well. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 21:43, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Permit Template:Quote box for regular quotes
An uninvolved editor will be needed to close this RfC on 30 September. Many thanks, SarahSV (talk) 20:02, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
Deletion discussions
Wikipedia:Miscellany for discussion
This discussion forum has an average backlog with approximately 20 discussions that have yet to be closed, the oldest of which is from July 2016. (04:24, 3 August 2016 (UTC))
Wikipedia:Files for discussion#Old discussions
There's 100+ open discussions, some well over two months old. The vast majority of these are easy closures. Would appreciate it if an admin could spend an hour or so clearing these out. Thanks! -FASTILY 08:18, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion#Discussions awaiting closure
There are approximately 50 discussions that have yet to be closed, the oldest of which is from April 25, 2016. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 20:01, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
- Update, there are approximately 150 discussions that have yet to be closed, the oldest is from early June. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:12, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
RevDel amendment
This proposal for amendment of the RevDel guidelines has been open for more than a month. Currently 100% of !votes are in favor of adopting the amendment with a thorough discussion among a variety of other editors who have chosen not to register any opposition. Despite a low number of !votes, the participation of a large number of editors without registered objection seems to indicate no objection to adoption of the amendment. Could it please be evaluated for closure? LavaBaron (talk) 05:19, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
- I've updated the link to point to Wikipedia talk:Revision deletion#RfC on Amendment of Block Log Rev Del Policy instead of Wikipedia talk:Revision deletion. Cunard (talk) 00:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
- @LavaBaron: Unfortunately, I see this as a very significant change to the revision deletion policy (since it would change longstanding practice regarding block logs), requiring a much broader consensus than the support of the proposer. It's better to assume that people haven't yet seen the proposal, rather than assuming that nobody will object to it. I recommend making neutral notes to the proposal on central community noticeboards like T:CENT, WP:VPP, and perhaps WP:AN to gather more input (within the bounds of WP:CANVASS, of course). As an uninvolved editor, if I were to close the discussion right now, it would regrettably have to be "no consensus". Mz7 (talk) 04:35, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karla Lane
This was relisted a week ago but there still is no consensus. For at least three reasons I can't close it as such myself (lol), so I request an uninvolved admin to do the honors. Erpert blah, blah, blah... 22:35, 30 August 2016 (UTC)