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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at [[:Eastern Anatolia Region]], you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]. <!-- Template:uw-disruptive3 --> [[User:ZaniGiovanni|ZaniGiovanni]] ([[User talk:ZaniGiovanni|talk]]) 23:37, 9 August 2022 (UTC) |
If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at [[:Eastern Anatolia Region]], you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]. <!-- Template:uw-disruptive3 --> [[User:ZaniGiovanni|ZaniGiovanni]] ([[User talk:ZaniGiovanni|talk]]) 23:37, 9 August 2022 (UTC) |
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== Ashure == |
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Hello. In good faith, I'm contacting first to understand your rationale regarding your recent edits in [[Ashure]]. Could you please explain: |
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A) Where did you get the country of origin [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ashure&diff=1103990714&oldid=1103145885&diffmode=source]? |
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B) Where was it "sourced throughout the article" that you felt the need to edit-war over your own addition [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ashure&diff=1104100570&oldid=1104058226&diffmode=source]? You then remove actual sourced content throughout the article [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ashure&diff=1104116895&oldid=1104110516&diffmode=source] ([https://books.google.com/books?id=wTwQDgAAQBAJ&dq=&lpg=PA350&pg=PA350&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false p.351]), asking others to "add with reliable sources". Didn't you even check the article sources if you're so keen in looking for "sources throughout the article" when citing a Turkish origin, even tho there wasn't any source for it in the article, while clearly there [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ashure&diff=1104116895&oldid=1104110516&diffmode=source#cite_note-5 was one] for the Armenian celebration? |
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C) When you were pointed out to finally cite sources for your own edits [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ashure&diff=1104124122&oldid=1104116895&diffmode=source], you then replace the origin with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ashure&diff=1104132388&oldid=1104128353&diffmode=source Anatolia according to the legend], and again remove the passage about Armenian celebration from the lead, now saying it's "already in the history part". What's the source for "Anatolia according to legend", why do you cite origin of something based on a legend even if there is a source, and why you removed the only ''actual sourced'' part about Armenian celebration from the lead, while kept the Turkish/Balkan one which was also in the below [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashure#History_and_traditions history section]? And why be selective about keeping Turkish/Balkan info in lead while removing the Armenian one because it's in "history section", when it's the same type of information i.e. religious celebration? |
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Are you capable of understanding how much of [[WP:TEND|tendentious editing]], bad faith and [[WP:CIR|incompetence]] you've demonstrated in this article alone in 24hrs? Are you capable of recognizing this? [[User:ZaniGiovanni|ZaniGiovanni]] ([[User talk:ZaniGiovanni|talk]]) 08:42, 13 August 2022 (UTC) |
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Quotes
You have some great quotes on your page! Thanks for sharing, Zen. - JGabbard (talk) 04:23, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
@JGabbard Hey J, apologies for the late reply! Thank you! All quotes I have on my page hold some kind of weight & meaning in my life. It's good to see other's relating to it too. zenzyyx_ (talk) 20:53, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
ATTENTION
I DELETE TOPICS ON MY TALK PAGE ONCE THE CONVERSATION HAS BECOME DORMANT IN ORDER TO AVOID CLOGGING IT. zenzyyx_ (talk) 12:10, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Eastern Anatolia Region
I'm not sure if this is a competance issue of yours or something else, but at this point of your account age, you should be aware that we don't use short essay edit summaries as means of communication like you did here [1], [2], especially for controversial edits, and especially when your arguments are subpar at best for justifying removal of an entire sourced section. There are talk pages for these kinds of things, you should discuss on the article talk page and raise your concerns, like I'm doing now discussing you on your talk page, and you could've noticed at least per article history that your edits would most likely face opposition. You've removed entire chunks of information with subpar at best rationale, and here's why;
This section is being removed because it is inconsistent with how all other articles on the Geographical regions of Turkey are structured. This issue has been raised in the talk page a few times, and is a legitimate one. These articles are not about the history of said regions, but current information (as evidenced by the remaining 6 articles relating to the geographical regions of Turkey
Not all articles are structured the same way, I'm not sure if this is a surprise for you or not, see WP:OTHERCONTENT which your arguments is at core. Especially when there is sourced information about the history of Eastern Anatolia Region that merits inclusion, it's a history section of its own. Why exactly, based on what valid rationale, this shouldn't be included in the article? I'm dumbfounded with your edit summary mini essay "argument" and lack of talk discussion for blanking an entire section.
Refer to previous edit summary + the Armenian translation included in the article translates to "Western Armenia", not "Eastern Anatolia Region". Again this is inconsistent with how all other articles on the Geographical regions of Turkey are structured.
That's not a translation, it's the separate and original name, see Western Armenia or Armenian highlands, it's even cited in the sources you removed if you actually bothered to read before removing an entire section. It predates Eastern Anatolia (see First Geography Congress, Turkey) by many years. And the second part of your argument is the same whataboutism which I addressed above. Your third edit is another WP:OTHERCONTENT whataboutism and lacks a valid rationale for removing well sourced content, like the other two.
You should consider stopping POV removal of an entire section and perhaps start discussing for especially controversial edits, just a thought. You may get sanctioned if you continue this type of POV editing pattern. I'm going to restore the valid and relevant information. If you have any disagreements, we can discuss here or on the article talk page. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 23:36, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
August 2022
Please stop your disruptive editing.
- If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Eastern Anatolia Region, you may be blocked from editing. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 23:37, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
Ashure
Hello. In good faith, I'm contacting first to understand your rationale regarding your recent edits in Ashure. Could you please explain:
A) Where did you get the country of origin [3]?
B) Where was it "sourced throughout the article" that you felt the need to edit-war over your own addition [4]? You then remove actual sourced content throughout the article [5] (p.351), asking others to "add with reliable sources". Didn't you even check the article sources if you're so keen in looking for "sources throughout the article" when citing a Turkish origin, even tho there wasn't any source for it in the article, while clearly there was one for the Armenian celebration?
C) When you were pointed out to finally cite sources for your own edits [6], you then replace the origin with Anatolia according to the legend, and again remove the passage about Armenian celebration from the lead, now saying it's "already in the history part". What's the source for "Anatolia according to legend", why do you cite origin of something based on a legend even if there is a source, and why you removed the only actual sourced part about Armenian celebration from the lead, while kept the Turkish/Balkan one which was also in the below history section? And why be selective about keeping Turkish/Balkan info in lead while removing the Armenian one because it's in "history section", when it's the same type of information i.e. religious celebration?
Are you capable of understanding how much of tendentious editing, bad faith and incompetence you've demonstrated in this article alone in 24hrs? Are you capable of recognizing this? ZaniGiovanni (talk) 08:42, 13 August 2022 (UTC)