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I have just received some very alarming forwarded emails. They concern this case of [[WP:MEAT]].[[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kautilya3#Towns_Hill ]] I have been told you have received copies of the puppet master's emails too. Do you intend to take action soon? [[User:Dilpa kaur|Dilpa kaur]] ([[User talk:Dilpa kaur|talk]]) 19:08, 6 August 2018 (UTC) |
I have just received some very alarming forwarded emails. They concern this case of [[WP:MEAT]].[[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kautilya3#Towns_Hill ]] I have been told you have received copies of the puppet master's emails too. Do you intend to take action soon? [[User:Dilpa kaur|Dilpa kaur]] ([[User talk:Dilpa kaur|talk]]) 19:08, 6 August 2018 (UTC) |
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:Only one of the emails that I have been sent actually looks like it's a specific editing directive, and I've no proof that any of them actually originated from [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] (the original header records have not been provided, so I've no way of knowing where the initial email came from). I have also been advised by ArbCom that they are aware of this issue, and that they do not believe the claims to be genuine - they have recommended that I ignore TH's claims. As such, unless it can be proved that Kautilya3 actually sent these emails, I see no reason to take action. [[User:Yunshui|Yunshui]] [[User talk:Yunshui|<sup style="font-size:90%">雲</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/Yunshui|<sub style="font-size:90%">水</sub>]] 07:15, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
:Only one of the emails that I have been sent actually looks like it's a specific editing directive, and I've no proof that any of them actually originated from [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] (the original header records have not been provided, so I've no way of knowing where the initial email came from). I have also been advised by ArbCom that they are aware of this issue, and that they do not believe the claims to be genuine - they have recommended that I ignore TH's claims. As such, unless it can be proved that Kautilya3 actually sent these emails, I see no reason to take action. [[User:Yunshui|Yunshui]] [[User talk:Yunshui|<sup style="font-size:90%">雲</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/Yunshui|<sub style="font-size:90%">水</sub>]] 07:15, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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::Some of TH claims may not be genuine, for socks seldom have the character to speak the complete truth. But I also think Kautilya3 (who tells began as a sock[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Salvio_giuliano/Archive_73#ARBIP]) is not innocent here either and is so far evading my question about the (if true, then inappropriate and against policy) January 4 email. [[User:Dilpa kaur|Dilpa kaur]] ([[User talk:Dilpa kaur|talk]]) 11:35, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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Grants:IdeaLab
Hi. You may not remember, but three months back you helped me get unblocked. I have some ideas for improving the unblock system and I would appreciate some feedback. Here is the link - [1] Thanks. J.A.R.N.Y.🗣 20:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
- That is an absolutely fucking terrible idea, and you can count on my strongest possible opposition. Yunshui 雲水 21:12, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
- I have responded to your post on the talk page. Please take a minute to read it. I believe I have addressed your concerns and clarified a few misunderstandings. Please feel free to reach out to me if you still have questions. J.A.R.N.Y.🗣 22:45, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
- Do not censor other users talkpage comments. I'll take a look at your response, but I cannot see any likelihood that I would ever support a proposal for automatic unblocking, any more than I would support a proposal for automatic blocks. Yunshui 雲水 07:42, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, I did not intend to censor anything. My computer has a filter that changes the text and it changed the text on the edit page. This has been bothering me a lot on Wikiquote. J.A.R.N.Y.🗣 11:25, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
- Do not censor other users talkpage comments. I'll take a look at your response, but I cannot see any likelihood that I would ever support a proposal for automatic unblocking, any more than I would support a proposal for automatic blocks. Yunshui 雲水 07:42, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
- I have responded to your post on the talk page. Please take a minute to read it. I believe I have addressed your concerns and clarified a few misunderstandings. Please feel free to reach out to me if you still have questions. J.A.R.N.Y.🗣 22:45, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Happy Adminship
The Signpost: 31 July 2018
- From the editor: If only if
- Opinion: Wrestling with Wikipedia reality
- Discussion report: Wikipedias take action against EU copyright proposal, plus new user right proposals
- Featured content: Wikipedia's best content in images and prose
- Arbitration report: Status quo processes retained in two disputes
- Traffic report: Soccer, football, call it what you like – that and summer movies leave room for little else
- Technology report: New bots, new prefs
- Recent research: Different Wikipedias use different images; editing contests more successful than edit-a-thons
- Humour: It's all the same
- Essay: Wikipedia does not need you
Editor you blocked for copyright violations
Going to his talk page to explain my revert, I see he's got a lot of warnings for images too large for non-free use.
My revert was of his addition of files containing entire verses of the Bhagavad Gita, eg this one.[2] I don't think they'd be appropriate even if they were in English, which they aren't. They come from here. Is a transliteration copyright? I'm guessing not. Do you think the images are appropriate? Doug Weller talk 11:58, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- He's restored them[3] saying they are appropriate for reading purposes and that they contain an English translation. I don't see the English translation but if there is one it's quite likely a copyright violation. Doug Weller talk 12:00, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- The text he was adding to Bhagavad Gita was not a translation but a description of content - and it was directly lifted from the (very clearly marked as copyrighted on every page) document here. Block reinstated; this time it's an indefinite one. The images are pretty useless, but I don't think they constitute copyright violations. Yunshui 雲水 14:12, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, I think this is a bit harsh, the oversized images are automatically resized by a bot within 24 hrs and as you say the images are not copyvio. Would you please consider lifting the block on condition that he does not upload any images or third party text for 6 months, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 15:22, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- The block is for the text addition to the Bhagavad Gita article, which as I pointed out above, was a blatant copyright violation. Given that last time he got blocked fro such actions he simply waited it out, this time it's an indef - so there has to be some effort to address the issue before he can go back to editing. Indef doesn't mean forever, but it does mean that the problem has to be dealt with. The size of the image isn't an issue, but on an English-language Wikipedia, a large image which provides only a list of transliterated phrases is fairly redundant - translations into English are useful, but that isn't what's been provided. As with any block, I am more than happy for other admins to review and amend or reverse it if they see fit, but I'm not happy having Gpkp editing here without some proof that he understands Wikipedia's stance on copyright. Yunshui 雲水 16:01, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, that seems appropriate. Doug Weller talk 19:43, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Copyright blocks (especially second ones) tend to be under as they are effectively CIR blocks. The criteria for lifting is just to satisfy us that you understand copyright and won’t do it again, so I think Yunshui’s actions are justified. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:50, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- The block is for the text addition to the Bhagavad Gita article, which as I pointed out above, was a blatant copyright violation. Given that last time he got blocked fro such actions he simply waited it out, this time it's an indef - so there has to be some effort to address the issue before he can go back to editing. Indef doesn't mean forever, but it does mean that the problem has to be dealt with. The size of the image isn't an issue, but on an English-language Wikipedia, a large image which provides only a list of transliterated phrases is fairly redundant - translations into English are useful, but that isn't what's been provided. As with any block, I am more than happy for other admins to review and amend or reverse it if they see fit, but I'm not happy having Gpkp editing here without some proof that he understands Wikipedia's stance on copyright. Yunshui 雲水 16:01, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – August 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2018).
- Sro23
- KaisaL • Ymblanter
- After a discussion at Meta, a new user group called "interface administrators" (formerly "technical administrator") has been created. Come the end of August, interface admins will be the only users able to edit site-wide JavaScript and CSS pages like MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css, or edit other user's personal JavaScript and CSS. The intention is to improve security and privacy by reducing the number of accounts which could be used to compromise the site or another user's account through malicious code. The new user group can be assigned and revoked by bureaucrats. Discussion is ongoing to establish details for implementing the group on the English Wikipedia.
- Following a request for comment, the WP:SISTER style guideline now states that in the mainspace, interwiki links to Wikinews should only be made as per the external links guideline. This generally means that within the body of an article, you should not link to Wikinews about a particular event that is only a part of the larger topic. Wikinews links in "external links" sections can be used where helpful, but not automatically if an equivalent article from a reliable news outlet could be linked in the same manner.
- The WMF Anti-Harassment Tools team is seeking input on the second set of wireframes for the Special:Block redesign that will introduce partial blocks. The new functionality will allow you to block a user from editing a specific set of pages, pages in a category, a namespace, and for specific actions such as moving pages and uploading files.
Kautilya3/Towns Hill
I have just received some very alarming forwarded emails. They concern this case of WP:MEAT.[[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kautilya3#Towns_Hill ]] I have been told you have received copies of the puppet master's emails too. Do you intend to take action soon? Dilpa kaur (talk) 19:08, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- Only one of the emails that I have been sent actually looks like it's a specific editing directive, and I've no proof that any of them actually originated from Kautilya3 (the original header records have not been provided, so I've no way of knowing where the initial email came from). I have also been advised by ArbCom that they are aware of this issue, and that they do not believe the claims to be genuine - they have recommended that I ignore TH's claims. As such, unless it can be proved that Kautilya3 actually sent these emails, I see no reason to take action. Yunshui 雲水 07:15, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
- Some of TH claims may not be genuine, for socks seldom have the character to speak the complete truth. But I also think Kautilya3 (who tells began as a sock[4]) is not innocent here either and is so far evading my question about the (if true, then inappropriate and against policy) January 4 email. Dilpa kaur (talk) 11:35, 7 August 2018 (UTC)