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Smartly done. I have been trying to right this ship for a long time but lacked your data gathering and compilation abilities. I sincerely hope this puts the matter to rest, Thank you. [[User:Garycompugeek|Garycompugeek]] ([[User talk:Garycompugeek|talk]]) 15:20, 28 May 2009 (UTC) |
Smartly done. I have been trying to right this ship for a long time but lacked your data gathering and compilation abilities. I sincerely hope this puts the matter to rest, Thank you. [[User:Garycompugeek|Garycompugeek]] ([[User talk:Garycompugeek|talk]]) 15:20, 28 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:I believe that I ought to also be in the compromise section. This is what I have been doing consistantly. Along those lines, I object to your characterization of me as "argued consistently for over two years to keep the image as suppressed as possible as the climate of consensus changed." This seems to be putting an inaccurate negative twist on what I have been doing. I have been arguing to integrate ethical concerns with the need to provide good information. While arguing against those who would have the image in the lead, I have argued for ways of integrating their views with ethical concerns. In fact, one of the compromisers, Diego, compromised with exactly the version that I proposed: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rorschach_inkblot_test/Archive_2#We_could_have_a_consensus_here_if.....]. |
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:Based on this: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rorschach_inkblot_test/Archive_2#Another_problem_with_posting_the_picture]{{User|MarkAnthonyBoyle}} also needs to removed from the "Editors who disagreed with the suppression of the image" and placed in the compromise section: "Umm, look, I think I've made myself clear. The compromise of hiding the image with a warning that vieing it may invalidate a test is a very good one. I don't have a problem with that." MarkAnthonyBoyle 21:48, 8 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:In future edits, for the sake of accuracy, if you must use only 2 numbers I suggest you place compromisers together with no "suppressors". Incidentally, we seem to have a ratio of about 1/3 to 2/3. Is there any way of coming together or do the 1/3 people don't count when the actual article content is considered?[[User:Faustian|Faustian]] ([[User talk:Faustian|talk]]) 16:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC) |
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Which Bloody English?
I have to ask. Is this site in English or American? Because I'm getting fed up of Americans reverting British English because they're too thick to know how to spell properly. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 10:58, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
- sighs* That probably counts as a personal attack on Americans, doesn't it? Sorry. I've had a rash of incidents in the last half an hour which has made my temper stretch to breaking point. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 10:59, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
- how dare you forget Canadian English =) see WP:ENGVAR for guidance on this. rule of thumb: British-centric topic (i.e. Tony Blair) would be British, Barack Obama would be American. –xenotalk 11:59, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't forget Canadians (*salutes*) but as far as I know, Canadian English is English English (i.e. correct). :P What about game related articles, for instance? Or Star Trek? Take... Fable and Star Trek XI as examples. Both were released across the world, but made by American companies. But Star Trek had at least two British people in. And Fable was set in Albion (an old name for Britian) and is populated (at least, according to Zero Punctuation) by immigrants from every corner of the British Isles. And I really need to stop speaking in sentence fragments. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 10:44, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Local consensus will determine this in the case of disagreements. In Grand Theft Auto IV (and all GTA articles), the British variation is used because the developer is in Scotland. it usually sticks to whatever "makes sense", but absent some compelling reason to use one variation over the other, whatever variation was used in the genesis of the article should be left in place. –xenotalk 13:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 13:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Local consensus will determine this in the case of disagreements. In Grand Theft Auto IV (and all GTA articles), the British variation is used because the developer is in Scotland. it usually sticks to whatever "makes sense", but absent some compelling reason to use one variation over the other, whatever variation was used in the genesis of the article should be left in place. –xenotalk 13:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't forget Canadians (*salutes*) but as far as I know, Canadian English is English English (i.e. correct). :P What about game related articles, for instance? Or Star Trek? Take... Fable and Star Trek XI as examples. Both were released across the world, but made by American companies. But Star Trek had at least two British people in. And Fable was set in Albion (an old name for Britian) and is populated (at least, according to Zero Punctuation) by immigrants from every corner of the British Isles. And I really need to stop speaking in sentence fragments. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 10:44, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
some tomfoolery
- Indian English, whose approximately 37,320,000 L1+L2 speakers placed it fourth (after U.S. English, U.K. English, and Nigerian English) in 1997, and which is actually ranked second at List of countries by English-speaking population based on other figures, is often forgotten, too. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 20:54, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
- Someone should do the needful to clear up this oversight =] –xenotalk 01:29, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- Nigerians have English? Why don't they ever use it when they spam me? --Thejadefalcon (talk) 10:44, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Because that would be boring 'The Ninjalemming'' 10:47, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, but while it provides me, as a proofreader, with either a) many laughs or b) loss of faith in humanity or c) both, if they're going to spam someone, surely they should try to, you know, learn English? --Thejadefalcon (talk) 10:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Why would they learn English when you could simply learn their language, obviously. =) 'The Ninjalemming'' 11:29, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Because they're the ones trying to advertise penis extensions, perhaps? --Thejadefalcon (talk) 11:36, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Why would they learn English when you could simply learn their language, obviously. =) 'The Ninjalemming'' 11:29, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, but while it provides me, as a proofreader, with either a) many laughs or b) loss of faith in humanity or c) both, if they're going to spam someone, surely they should try to, you know, learn English? --Thejadefalcon (talk) 10:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Because that would be boring 'The Ninjalemming'' 10:47, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Eh? Never seen that one, never want to see that one either. ={ 'The Ninjalemming'' 12:50, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- That was my view as well. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 12:54, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- I think that was every ones view except that unfortunate guy over there; hey wait, why is he crying in my back garden? 'The Ninjalemming'' 12:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- raises eyebrow* Go and ask. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 13:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- It was just a morc, hence to say I put him down (with a [[Insert Humerous item here]]). Well, lets not get onto the subject of 'odd creatures'. 'The Ninjalemming'' 14:31, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- You killed him with a [[Insert Humerous item here]]. You should be ashamed of yourself! ... What were we talking about again...?--Thejadefalcon (talk) 14:35, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- I think that was every ones view except that unfortunate guy over there; hey wait, why is he crying in my back garden? 'The Ninjalemming'' 12:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- That was my view as well. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 12:54, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- I have no idea, I think it was something to do with language though. 'The Ninjalemming'' 15:02, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hey Xeno, the achieiness i tryed to do on my page appears not to be working; can you help, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaase! =) 'The Ninjalemming'' 15:41, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Cheers! =) 'The Ninjalemming'' 16:26, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hey Xeno, the achieiness i tryed to do on my page appears not to be working; can you help, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaase! =) 'The Ninjalemming'' 15:41, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
xeno, just a question, but why haven't you deleted this off-topic gibberish yet? --Thejadefalcon (talk) 11:21, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Because he archieves all, even stuff sch like dfgvukdyasgfsfgvudksegja\f,; this is still suppose to go in 'The Archieves'. 'The Ninjalemming'' 11:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, but there's archiving useful things and then there's archiving anything I've ever written (except my Mass Effect 2 edits, which are clearly approved by ninety-seven different deities (oh, must make new edits)). --Thejadefalcon (talk) 11:47, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- MiszaBot archieves all, and Xeno doesn't care what he (yes he, MiszaBot 1 and 2 are she) archieves. 'The Ninjalemming'' 11:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, but there's archiving useful things and then there's archiving anything I've ever written (except my Mass Effect 2 edits, which are clearly approved by ninety-seven different deities (oh, must make new edits)). --Thejadefalcon (talk) 11:47, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Umm... what's MiszaBot? --Thejadefalcon (talk) 12:02, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- MiszaBot is a bot that does rapid amounts of tedious stuff in a very small period of time; MiszaBot III archieves pages that have been registered to it, every time it is meant to. User this link for more info. 'The Ninjalemming'' 13:23, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Umm... what's MiszaBot? --Thejadefalcon (talk) 12:02, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks. Silly bot, archiving this garbage. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 13:26, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Fair enough. I know the feeling. :P --Thejadefalcon (talk) 12:38, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
miszabot'en
What did those letters do anyway? 'The Ninjalemming'' 16:39, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Some kind of regex or something. I don't know, I use numbered archives. –xenotalk 16:42, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Any real difference though? And Miszabot 3 will just make a new page every month/year right? 'The Ninjalemming '' 11:06, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- I never even read the link I just knew it was there, checking it now I see that it is infact a link to many othe (some actually helpful) links. Any way, check this bot, it is my friend; unfortunatly last time I said hi to it I think I my have gven it botal damage, as xeno had to undo my edit. 'The Ninjalemming'' 13:59, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hey xeno, how do you leave a note or MiszaBot to tell 'him' to do something; like when to archieve stuff. 'The Ninjalemming'' 15:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- MBIII will only visit your page once a day. I think user:ClueBot III has some kind of (archivenow!) functionality, but I'm not familiar with it. Seeing as you've decided to use numbered archiving, do you want me to delete the month-based pages MB created? –xenotalk 16:01, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hey xeno, how do you leave a note or MiszaBot to tell 'him' to do something; like when to archieve stuff. 'The Ninjalemming'' 15:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- I never even read the link I just knew it was there, checking it now I see that it is infact a link to many othe (some actually helpful) links. Any way, check this bot, it is my friend; unfortunatly last time I said hi to it I think I my have gven it botal damage, as xeno had to undo my edit. 'The Ninjalemming'' 13:59, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- eah sure (unless I can do it), and cheers for the countery stuff, I thought I would change it to look like yours considering what you said; but that day when 'non-activeness' *shudder* occurs is hopfully a long way off. =) 'The Ninjalemming::'' 16:09, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Trolls
Shouldn't some have done this a long time ago?
Sought | Knock Knock | Who's There? 01:46, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- Isn't that just a copy of the meta:What is a troll? page? –xenotalk 01:48, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, but isn't it more convenient? When you type in WP:TROLL it takes you to the redirect instead of automatically redirecting you Sought | Knock Knock | Who's There? 02:00, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- Also, can you have multiple topicons on your user page? If so, how? Sought | Knock Knock | Who's There? 02:00, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- And, If you upload the pic yourself, How can you delete images from the Wikicommons? Thank You, Sought | Knock Knock | Who's There?
- It's more convenient but there are certain "global" essays which are put on meta to benefit from a wider degree of collaboration (m:DICK, etc.).
ThankSpam
Thank you for participating in my "RecFA", which passed with a final tally of 153/39/22. There were issues raised regarding my adminship that I intend to cogitate upon, but I am grateful for the very many supportive comments I received and for the efforts of certain editors (Ceoil, Noroton and Lar especially) in responding to some issues. I wish to note how humbled I was when I read Buster7's support comment, although a fair majority gave me great pleasure. I would also note those whose opposes or neutral were based in process concerns and who otherwise commented kindly in regard to my record. |
FYI re: boilerplate opposes
Hey there Xeno, how you doin today? Just wanted to mention something that had been discussed previously. A while back, the issue of "ban" and/or "block" surfaced regarding RfA !votes. I know several folks have found fault with your actions in this matter, and I freely admit that I've opposed the suggestions that any disciplinary preemptive action should be taken for an editor who believed that there were "too many admins", which has since been defined as "of a certain kind". As I look over a current candidate at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/CactusWriter, I'm hopeful that I'll see a change in !vote patterns, but consider the possibility that this may not happen. I'd have to give serious (re)-consideration to my support or oppose of some sort of sanction should previous patterns continue. So what does this mean to you? meh, maybe nothing. Just that I'm willing to entertain the possibility that you were right and I was wrong. For What It's Worth. ;) — Ched : ? 17:48, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- I've refined the header from simply "FYI". From what I understand, he'll only template if someone else has already opposed, as he doesn't want to provide his own reasoning. Now that there is an oppose, I'm sure you'll see the boilerplate text soon. Thanks for your note. –xenotalk 13:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
IGN links
Hi Xeno, what about the removal of the IGN links in all the French communes pages where there are still some? I thought your bot would take care of it but apparently you haven't taken it out of the garage for a while... Cheers, --RCS (talk) 19:19, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yes... I've been lazy... =) Will try and geterdun sometime this week. –xenotalk 14:03, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
My signature
No, I'm not going to plead my case about my signature ;). Consensus has been met, I won't change it. Just a question. I see you change the border back to 2 px. To be honest, I don't see THAT much of difference in my browser between the 2px and the 5 px. Just in 5px the border looks slightly more visible. (I'm using Mozilla on a 1280 x 1024 monitor (WIN XP PRO). Does the change from 2 to 5px really look that different on your end ? Naluboutes, Nalubotes Aeria gloris, Aeria gloris 17:44, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- It's 2½ times wider. And now I will actually and permanently disengage ;-) ╟─TreasuryTag►hemicycle─╢ 17:46, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Yes, as I commented at AN, it obscures the tails on letters above the sig. (eg. turning Treasury Tag into Treasury Taq). –xenotalk 17:46, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Sig
Yeah, good idea, on the whole. I'm no bloodhound ;-) Thanks. ╟─TreasuryTag►hemicycle─╢ 17:45, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
User:Sochia007
Thanks for fixing all my markup - I made a real hash of it.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- No problem. If you're not using the dreaded IE, you may consider checking out Twinkle for assistance with tasks like this. –xenotalk 21:08, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Will do. Thanks again.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Daymeeee
Daymeeee has edited the bit of text on the Resident Evil 5 article about Alpha team that me and him are debating. This is very disrespectful to me and, as you know, could potentially lead to an edit war, or the re-protecting of the page. Could you please go into the talk page and let him know that things that are being debated are not to be changed? He did this many times with the decapitated thing before, and I could see him doing it continually. I'll be watching the page as much as possible, but I'm done opposing his ridiculous comments until I can get some other editors (not necessarily a third opinion, though) in there. I don't like arguing for the sake of arguing, and he's clearly not about to help us get anywhere. I think he'll see that as resignation and continue to edit the page back. Just please notify him via talk page that he should not do this. I don't want any more trouble involving him. I just want a nice, clean consensus regarding the subject, which is impossible without other editors. I want him to understand that. As an administrator, your word is more lawful than mine. So please, if you could help. Thanks. --The Guy complain edits 02:05, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- I made a comment at the talk page. If things really have to go to straw polls for every paragraph on the page, some other form of dispute resolution may be in order. –xenotalk 02:33, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
For learning a difficult lesson
The Barnstar of Integrity | ||
For blocking yourself after realizing you compromised content in order to provoke another editor. It wasn't pretty, but you had the guts to do what no other admin was willing to do: follow procedure and block an editor for disruptive editing. I respect you for performing this admin duty, and I sincerely hope this gives you pause to reflect in the future. Moni3 (talk) 16:50, 26 May 2009 (UTC) |
- Thanks for this Moni3. No doubt - I won't repeat the same mistake. –xenotalk 16:54, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
I see one of the girls is back. They have blanked the content left by you, and put up some more girly offerings.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 01:37, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
RfD nomination of Alien sideboob
I have nominated Alien sideboob (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 17:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Your repeated spurious noms are really starting to get on my nerves. You do realize that you're doing more harm creating spurious nominations than are caused by most of the redirects you're nominating, yes? –xenotalk 17:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
XFD
Re Seriously, XFD isn't all I do by a long shot. Didn't you notice that I spent a lot of time working on The Kentucky Headhunters yesterday, and created a new article, Jesse Lee (singer)? I should also note that there is a precedent of deleting meme redirects, such as Squadala, Gay Luigi, Lotsa spaghetti, all of which turn up nearly as many hits as Alien sideboob. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 17:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Then please keep it up, and consider not doing the stuff that doesn't improve the encyclopedia. The fact that you've wasted your time and convinced administrators to delete other harmless redirects doesn't make it A Good Thing™. –xenotalk 17:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Aaaaaand perhaps you, xeno, could be less rude in your requests to others. Thanks, لennavecia 18:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- I was a little more diplomatic when I asked him to stop bringing spurious noms a while back (here, slightly less so here). It appears to have fallen on deaf ears, as did this similar request. –xenotalk 18:47, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Aaaaaand perhaps you, xeno, could be less rude in your requests to others. Thanks, لennavecia 18:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Template:Ubxdisplay
This was a great edit. Frankly speaking, if this would have been available before, I would have used the template a lot more. I would even make it the other way around: the default not showing. Debresser (talk) 18:09, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hrm, it was meant to be a single-serving version of the "{{Usbk}}" family of templates that provide a "transclusions" button. –xenotalk 18:12, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- How this, then? –xenotalk 18:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
{{Bartending-stub}}
Hello, as you may have noticed there is a small movement in the Food and drink, Mixed Drinks and Bartending WikiProjects to get everything in order including templates and article ratings. We need this template to work with the Bartneding Projects WP 1.0 Ratings. Could you please restore this stub template? (It had originally been nominated for deletion because of under use) --Jeremy (blah blah) 19:11, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Re: ANI
That link is fine. I'll try to keep my eye out, but if you do happen to see any more discussions, now you know where to point them. Thanks, Xeno. --Deskana, Champion of the Frozen Wastes 19:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
A beautiful job, for which you are to be commended. I remain unable to be sufficiently pithy to craft an acceptable barnstar note, but I offer that I wowed by your compilation. I do not imagine that one could conclude other than as you do about where lies the consensus, but neither can I imagine that anyone could appraise and distill the matter more comprehensively, clearly, persuasively, or fairly. Well done. Cheers, Joe 04:18, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you. I do apologize in advance for any brains I may have melted, tl;dr is obviously a concern here. =) But, there's something to be said about being exhaustive... –xenotalk 04:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Smartly done. I have been trying to right this ship for a long time but lacked your data gathering and compilation abilities. I sincerely hope this puts the matter to rest, Thank you. Garycompugeek (talk) 15:20, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- I believe that I ought to also be in the compromise section. This is what I have been doing consistantly. Along those lines, I object to your characterization of me as "argued consistently for over two years to keep the image as suppressed as possible as the climate of consensus changed." This seems to be putting an inaccurate negative twist on what I have been doing. I have been arguing to integrate ethical concerns with the need to provide good information. While arguing against those who would have the image in the lead, I have argued for ways of integrating their views with ethical concerns. In fact, one of the compromisers, Diego, compromised with exactly the version that I proposed: [4].
- Based on this: [5]MarkAnthonyBoyle (talk · contribs) also needs to removed from the "Editors who disagreed with the suppression of the image" and placed in the compromise section: "Umm, look, I think I've made myself clear. The compromise of hiding the image with a warning that vieing it may invalidate a test is a very good one. I don't have a problem with that." MarkAnthonyBoyle 21:48, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- In future edits, for the sake of accuracy, if you must use only 2 numbers I suggest you place compromisers together with no "suppressors". Incidentally, we seem to have a ratio of about 1/3 to 2/3. Is there any way of coming together or do the 1/3 people don't count when the actual article content is considered?Faustian (talk) 16:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for your cleanup efforts at the Rehab project. It is needed! In the beginning there was a combination of talk and project page. That needs fixing now that things are moving again. -- Brangifer (talk) 05:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)