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Hi there- I'm sorry you're having such a tough time with this article. I've made a few edits to try to make it look a bit more like a typical Wikipedia article. This involved removing a few bits and pieces which didn't quite fit in (also, please see my comment on the talk page), but I have removed the cleanup tags on the article and the speedy deletion tag on the image. If you'll permit me a recommendation, I'd advise not engaging any further on the AfD (article for deletion) page unless answering direct questions; expressing your frustration like that (no matter how justified it might be!) is going to turn off people who may comment. [[User:J Milburn|Josh Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]]) 09:32, 28 May 2016 (UTC) |
Hi there- I'm sorry you're having such a tough time with this article. I've made a few edits to try to make it look a bit more like a typical Wikipedia article. This involved removing a few bits and pieces which didn't quite fit in (also, please see my comment on the talk page), but I have removed the cleanup tags on the article and the speedy deletion tag on the image. If you'll permit me a recommendation, I'd advise not engaging any further on the AfD (article for deletion) page unless answering direct questions; expressing your frustration like that (no matter how justified it might be!) is going to turn off people who may comment. [[User:J Milburn|Josh Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]]) 09:32, 28 May 2016 (UTC) |
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[[File:Information orange.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Please do not [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|attack]] other editors, as you did at [[:Talk:Julia Friedman]]. Comment on ''content'', not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please [[Wikipedia:Staying cool when the editing gets hot|stay cool]] and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-npa2 --> [[User:Freshacconci|<b><FONT COLOR="#000000">freshacconci</FONT></b>]][[User talk:Freshacconci|<b><FONT COLOR="#B22222"> talk</FONT><FONT COLOR="#2F4F4F"> to me</FONT></b>]] 13:48, 28 May 2016 (UTC) |
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May 2016
Hello Wwwwhatupprrr, and welcome to Wikipedia. All or some of your addition(s) to Dave Hickey has had to be removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.
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→ Hi Diannaa -- I hope you are feeling well? Because, I thought I would ask how you are feeling before I ask you if you put this edit war on my user page in error? Why am I asking you this? Because any other editor can clearly see that I have not reverted any edits in my entire Wiki history, not to mention Dave Hickey page? So are you ok? Are you warring with some other editor? I look forward to hearing from you! Wwwwhatupprrr (talk) 01:05, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry for the mistake. It should have been the above copyright information. (These two notices are very close together on the Twinkle pulldown menu.) Some of the material you added to the article was identical to the sources. You can see in the edit history which websites I found you had copied. Please let me know if you have any questions. — Diannaa (talk) 12:27, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Diannaa -- I am sure your mistake was made in haste. And, in your haste you made a mistake. There was indeed no "editorial war" going on in this article whatsoever. Apology accepted. However, I do believe you also made many other hasty mistakes: for example, deleting OUTRIGHT 3 of my paraphrasing edits from said sources. That is NOT to say that I did not have full quotes in there, too -- which is clearly admissible in Wiki policy. My experience is that any conscientious editors would simply write to another editor/s and say, "Hey, could you please increase the distance from the reference in this or that passage? If not, I will have to remove it in a few days." But, you did not do that. Too bad, because I would have understood that initiative as an editor acting in good faith looking for a positive editorial experience. Obviously, you were just editing in haste, cutting this and that, and posting fraudulent warnings on other good-faith editors trying to improve an important article (the only MacArthur Award art critic in the USA) that has been basically inactive for years (see Dave Hickey talk page); although you were aware enough and had time enough to write "paraphrase" in the deletion summary. In addition, in your haste you deleted many edits distantly far from your stated objectives: for instance, can you explain to me why you deleted these 2 edits below? I look forward to hearing from you Wwwwhatupprrr (talk) 16:30, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- (cur | prev) 05:23, 28 April 2016 BG19bot (talk | contribs) m . . (19,750 bytes) (-37) . . (WP:CHECKWIKI error fix for #61. Punctuation goes before References. Do general fixes if a problem exists. - using AWB)
- (cur | prev) 00:38, 12 March 2016 KasparBot (talk | contribs) . . (11,437 bytes) (-269) . . (migrating Persondata to Wikidata, please help, see challenges for this article)
- I have double checked and all the material I removed was copied unaltered from the sources. The two unrelated diffs had to be hidden as well because all intervening diffs between addition of the copyright violation and its removal have to be revision deleted for the history to be cleaned. Please don't add any more material copied from other websites to this wiki. To do so is a violation of our copyright policy. — Diannaa (talk) 19:25, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Diannaa -- I am sure your mistake was made in haste. And, in your haste you made a mistake. There was indeed no "editorial war" going on in this article whatsoever. Apology accepted. However, I do believe you also made many other hasty mistakes: for example, deleting OUTRIGHT 3 of my paraphrasing edits from said sources. That is NOT to say that I did not have full quotes in there, too -- which is clearly admissible in Wiki policy. My experience is that any conscientious editors would simply write to another editor/s and say, "Hey, could you please increase the distance from the reference in this or that passage? If not, I will have to remove it in a few days." But, you did not do that. Too bad, because I would have understood that initiative as an editor acting in good faith looking for a positive editorial experience. Obviously, you were just editing in haste, cutting this and that, and posting fraudulent warnings on other good-faith editors trying to improve an important article (the only MacArthur Award art critic in the USA) that has been basically inactive for years (see Dave Hickey talk page); although you were aware enough and had time enough to write "paraphrase" in the deletion summary. In addition, in your haste you deleted many edits distantly far from your stated objectives: for instance, can you explain to me why you deleted these 2 edits below? I look forward to hearing from you Wwwwhatupprrr (talk) 16:30, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- You Diannaa have double-checked? Is this the very same editor who just gave me an apology (read above) for an obvious error -- if not outright threat to my good-faith participation in wiki? If you don't mind, I would like to review the material myself to compare the edit with the source (which, by my own admission and adherence to wiki policy includes direct quotes). In fact, let us take a moment to look at your edit description below:
- (cur | prev) 15:05, 2 May 2016 Diannaa (talk | contribs) . . (15,572 bytes) (-85) . . (paraphrase and remove copyright content copied from http://art.unm.edu/project/dave-hickey-libby-lumpkin-ph-d-join-the-department-of-art-art-history/) (thank)
- Your edit description clearly states: "paraphrase". So we have another contradiction from you between: (a) your written editorial description AND (b) your most recent narrative testimony which refutes your earlier written testimony. In addition, I would argue, that your most recent statement "The two unrelated diffs had to be hidden as well because all intervening diffs between addition of the copyright violation and its removal have to be revision deleted for the history to be cleaned." is false. Why do I make this bold claim? Because, in fact, the evidence shows that these 2 diffs were not "sandwiched between" copyright infringements. This is obviously another false statement. You deleted these 2 diffs simply because you were again working (by your own admission) in haste -- without respect for the material or without respect for the other editors that made good-faith changes.
- Either way, I am left now looking at 3 errors you have made in haste. Any learned editorial observer would notice these obvious errors in the same thread and see this does not constitute a good-faith Wiki exchange. Please unlock the materials so I may in fact, review the evidence myself. Wwwwhatupprrr (talk) 21:28, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Perhaps I have not made myself clear. All diffs from the first addition of copyright material to but not including the final removal of copyright material have to be revision deleted in order for all of the copyright violations to be removed from the editing history. This includes the edits with the actual infractions, the edit by BG19bot, the edit by Niceguyedc, the edit by KasparBot, and three of my own edits. For one of your edits, I paraphrased part of the edit instead of removing it outright. I have temporarily removed the revision deletion so you can review what I did. — Diannaa (talk) 22:05, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you Diannaa for giving me (and the other editors) a chance to review these materials. In due time, I will attempt to introduce appropriate changes to the material which I hope will meet with your full approval according to wiki guidelines.Wwwwhatupprrr (talk) 17:14, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
- Perhaps I have not made myself clear. All diffs from the first addition of copyright material to but not including the final removal of copyright material have to be revision deleted in order for all of the copyright violations to be removed from the editing history. This includes the edits with the actual infractions, the edit by BG19bot, the edit by Niceguyedc, the edit by KasparBot, and three of my own edits. For one of your edits, I paraphrased part of the edit instead of removing it outright. I have temporarily removed the revision deletion so you can review what I did. — Diannaa (talk) 22:05, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- You Diannaa have double-checked? Is this the very same editor who just gave me an apology (read above) for an obvious error -- if not outright threat to my good-faith participation in wiki? If you don't mind, I would like to review the material myself to compare the edit with the source (which, by my own admission and adherence to wiki policy includes direct quotes). In fact, let us take a moment to look at your edit description below:
A tag has been placed on File:Julia Friedman reading at The UCLA Hammer Museum.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F9 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the file appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted content borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. reddogsix (talk) 02:33, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Julia Friedman
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A tag has been placed on Julia Friedman requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. reddogsix (talk) 02:36, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
- I would contest the nomination if there was something to contest, unfortunately all that I can contest is a wiki tag after hours of my hard work. Wwwwhatupprrr (talk) 02:55, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
Nomination of Julia Friedman for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Julia Friedman is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Julia Friedman until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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May 2016
Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Julia Friedman, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. reddogsix (talk) 05:17, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
What are you talking about? I clearly stated my reason and position which is very reasonable: "COI tag appears to be unnecessary at this time given the fact that no edits whatsoever have been challenged, offered or even contested." Please tell me why you reverted the edit when I clearly stated my actions. Wwwwhatupprrr (talk) 05:23, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
Please stop continuing to remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Julia Friedman, without resolving the problem that the template refers to. This may be considered disruptive editing. Further edits of this type may result in your account being blocked from editing. The reasoning for the assumption is in the AfD. reddogsix (talk) 05:55, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
- I addressed this matter in the TALK page. Please address the comments in the TALK page. --Wwwwhatupprrr (talk) 05:57, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
- Furthermore, you have no "reasoning" in the AfD? --Wwwwhatupprrr (talk) 06:00, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi there- I'm sorry you're having such a tough time with this article. I've made a few edits to try to make it look a bit more like a typical Wikipedia article. This involved removing a few bits and pieces which didn't quite fit in (also, please see my comment on the talk page), but I have removed the cleanup tags on the article and the speedy deletion tag on the image. If you'll permit me a recommendation, I'd advise not engaging any further on the AfD (article for deletion) page unless answering direct questions; expressing your frustration like that (no matter how justified it might be!) is going to turn off people who may comment. Josh Milburn (talk) 09:32, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
May 2016
Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Talk:Julia Friedman. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. freshacconci talk to me 13:48, 28 May 2016 (UTC)