December 2022
Hello, I'm UtherSRG. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Impala, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. UtherSRG (talk) 12:26, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
146 very small edits
What, may I ask, was the point of making 146 small edits to your user page? UtherSRG (talk) 20:11, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
It's very simple, I'm trying to reach 500 edits so I can edit this protected page 20 upper (talk) 20:56, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Which page? You can request edits on an article's talk page. UtherSRG (talk) 01:38, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
December 2022
Just a bit of a warning... your userpage is verging on the borders of what is grounds for deletion via WP:U5. Please read that policy. UtherSRG (talk) 16:17, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
OK, I hear you, I deleted all my unnecessary personal info on my User page. 20 upper (talk) 18:51, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
Hello, I'm Khrincan. I noticed that you recently removed content from Draft:Megaherbivores without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Khrincan (talk) 20:38, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
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UtherSRG (talk) 21:15, 26 December 2022 (UTC)Thank you, I really appreciate it. I'll continue contributing to Wikipedia and make more articles. This means a lot to me and I'm grateful. 20 upper (talk) 10:22, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
- Good job! I do suggest sticking with the AfC process for at least a few articles to get the hang of it. And I strongly suggest starting all new articles in the Draft namespace so that you have more freedom to put the articles together over time; an incomplete article in the main namespace may easily fall under a [WP:CSD|speedy deletion]] rationale. Cheers! UtherSRG (talk) 11:59, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
Your Draft articles
- UtherSRG ... and even a Draft article can be subject to WP:CSD: Draft:Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Walter Donaldson (snooker player)/archive2. I'm a bit concerned here, and I see you have been attempting some mentoring, but it looks like more may be needed. 20 upper indicated they made the hundreds of edits to their user page so they could make extended confirmed user,[1] but I wonder if they are ready for it? Today, for an article that is already a Featured article, they created a copy of a FAC in Draft and moved it to a FAC page with a (false) indication the article had been promoted as a Featured article by FACbot, and then submitted that (not)promotion to WP:WIKICUP for points. [2]. At this stage, this could be an innocent mistake of a new-ish editor, but this kind of editing can be viewed as disruptive if it continues, along with the other sorts of things seen on this page.[3] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:22, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
20 upper I hope you will consider my suggestion that you are not ready to be moving articles out of Draft space to main space.
- Draft:Cape buffalo is a topic that already exists at African buffalo
- Largest non-human primates, in its current state, looks like original research, because the premise that these are the largest is uncited.
It is important to read and understand Wikipedia policies and guidelines because if you continue editing in the manner you have been, an admin could issue a partial block that would confine your editing to draft space only. Perhaps after you create a draft, you can post to an associated WikiProject, asking that another editor review your work and then move it to main space.
I hope you also understand that your excessive edits to your user page so that you could achieve extended confirmed status, along with an uncited edit to a contentious topic, combined with the issue of submitting an article to Wikicup that you had not edited add up to make your editing look disruptive. Please slow down. UtherSRG suggested above that you view the tutorial; have you done that ? It is understandable that new editors might make these kinds of mistakes, but you have now made enough that you would be well advised to slow down, read carefully, and ask for advice before published drafts to main space.
You can find a list of WikiProjects where you might seek help here. You can also ask for help at the Teahouse at any time. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:29, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
January 2023
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Feminism, as but one example, is a gender-related contentious topic. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:54, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Adding citations to existing text
You added a citation here to the end of a paragraph, which implies that the source verifies the entire paragraph, when in fact, it verifies very little of it. I'm not sure what exactly you find the source verifies in the pre-existing content, but when adding a source, you should make sure the content conforms to the source, and leave a {{cn}} tag on any part of the paragraph that is not verified by the source. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 10:58, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- Asked for assistance at WikiProject taged at Talk:Africanized bee. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 11:05, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- Similar here; the source does not verify the text it is attached to. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 11:14, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Citation needed
Not sure why you see Largest non-human primates as original research, and I don't get why I have to add a citation when other similar pages like List of largest land carnivorans, Largest wild canids and Heaviest land mammals provide no such citation. Help me understand, will you? 20 upper (talk) 13:21, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS; offering an example of similar elsewhere on Wikipedia isn't usually a good idea, as the example could be equally wrong (anyone can edit Wikipedia and it's full of policy-breaching stuff). But those articles don't seem to make the same mistakes, which are:
- List articles are just that, and the criteria for being on the list should be defined early on. See Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists. You can find good samples of featured lists.
- Yours is an article making an outright claim that: "This is a list that contains 10 of the largest primate species (excluding humans". If you meant the article to be a List of largest non-human primates, it should be named that. The statement, "that contains 10 of the largest primate species (excluding humans)", is uncited. Original research, specifically synthesis, means that you took information from multiple sources and combined it to draw a conclusion not found in the sources. What source states that these particular ten are ten of the largest ?? That is, how can we verify there aren't ten others that are larger than these ten?
- It can always be assumed (unless it's a FL, that lists are incomplete. The way you composed this article, the claim is that these are THE 10 larger, and there are no more larger, but that assertion is uncited.
- SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:11, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
So I should change the name to make it a Stand-alone list. So there will be no need for a citation if a change the name of the article, right? 20 upper (talk) 15:31, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- Moving the article to a stand-alone list would be a first step. (I recommend that you personally refrain from moving articles until you have gained more experience, and instead seek assistance from related WikiProjects.) But the lead statement is still original research. The lead would need to define the criteria for list inclusion without making a statement about "10 largest", which is the original research/synthesis part that requires citation. If you consider what the criteria would be, then others will be able to make the necessary adjustments. More pressing is the question of whether you have taken this time to carefully re-read all of the links posted to you throughout your talk page; getting one article fixed is less important than making sure that you are taking on board how your editing needs to adjust so you don't end up blocked again. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:39, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- PS, maybe you're a speed reader :) But I kind of doubt that you really read through every link I listed in my post above in 20 minutes, and it is important when you have breached core policies on Wikipedia that you thoroughly read through the links provided in posts to you. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:44, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Lion attacks: Copyright notice
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What do you mean, I used my own words to the best of my abilities. Did you properly check the citations I added. I know I'm not allowed to copyright, so I didn't do such a thing. I'm confused. 20 upper (talk) 18:57, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- UtherSRG all of this occurred before 20 upper's block, and I haven't found instances where copyvio has repeated (although with offline sources, it would be hard to know), but this is another indication that 20 upper might not be ready for mainspace editing, and might benefit from a mentor. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:03, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- 20 upper, I'm most happy to hear you are willing to help clean up this article! Going forward, please be sure to always add page numbers on cited sources like books or long PDFs or journal articles, so others can verify content. Sometimes a page number isn't available, so adding a section heading or other descriptor works for those cases. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:39, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- 20upper: Lion attacks/Temp is not a subpage, because main space doesn't support subpages. You've created a brand new copyright problem in main space. 2A01:4C8:522:ABAC:E1B2:E055:AF79:123F (talk) 16:31, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- 20 upper, you didn't follow the instructions. The link I directed you to goes to a talk page, which is where you should be working. Please put a {{db-author}} at Lion attacks/Temp so an admin can delete it and then you can start over at the right place. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:35, 27 January 2023 (UTC)