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::Hey, why not just throw a grenade into my house? Where do you people get the time for such hate? Lastly, you can contact Bluegrasstom, his real name is Tomer for comment by e-mail or telephone! Do you people have children? Were they ever taken away from you? Would you accept gender bias discrimination as an excuse to take your kids away from you. Your campaign here is a very sad one for which you can read about on my RFC. Best wishes. [[User:Israelbeach|IsraelBeach]] 20:59, 23 April 2006 (UTC) |
::Hey, why not just throw a grenade into my house? Where do you people get the time for such hate? Lastly, you can contact Bluegrasstom, his real name is Tomer for comment by e-mail or telephone! Do you people have children? Were they ever taken away from you? Would you accept gender bias discrimination as an excuse to take your kids away from you. Your campaign here is a very sad one for which you can read about on my RFC. Best wishes. [[User:Israelbeach|IsraelBeach]] 20:59, 23 April 2006 (UTC) |
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:::Hey Beach, I think we found some "meatpuppets" here ;> Am I a friend of Israelbeach? Sure am. Do I respect him as a caring, dedicated dad? Yes. As one who serves in the IDF? Yes. As one who had done more to defend both his kids and country than most of you? Without a doubt. My only question to all of you is why? Why attack a man who has had his children taken away from him? Are you truly Jewish? Do you serve in the IDF? Or am I speaking to Hamas here? Or is it the same people who applauded when Rabin was murdered? I have never seen such organized hate among Jewish people. This is not Judaism. And this hate does not belong on Wikipedia! I ask you all, if you are in Israel, to contact Israelbeach and enjoy coffee together. Talk. Communicate. Don't we have enough problems with Islamic Jihad and Hizbullah? Stop eating one another, communicate and keep both Israel and Wikipedia strong. [[User:Nancetlv|Nancetlv]] 22:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC) |
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OK, here's my thoughts about it.
- Don't try to throw in everything you can find; a few salient points suffice.
- I'm not sure how [1] shows that Leyden is a "self-confessed SEO". Maybe I missed it.
- If you think those other editors are sockpuppets (or meatpuppets, which I think a bit more likely), ask for validation of your belief on WP:RFCU; since they're doing it to avoid 3RR (if they are doing it at all) and to manufacture fake consensus, it should be accepted and checked.
- "Presumably" a cause with which he is personally involved? Quite admittedly, at this point: [2]
- Legal threats in themselves are grounds for blocking; the legal threat aspect should be emphasized.
- There's nothing wrong (other than being wrong) with making accusations of censorship, ugliness, or smelly feet.
- Please provide us with an English translation of this piece of evidence so the rest of us can judge what you're claiming (and what he's doing.)
- His ignorance about verifiability and its applicability to unsigned comments on talk pages is just that -- ignorance. (Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity.)
On the whole, though, it's a pretty good RFC. It's most important to approach creating RFCs from a centered, neutral place; the more excited the author of an RFC sounds, the more it's likely to be discounted. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 16:20, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Hi Woggly. I've started by taking another look at the sockpuppeting issue. Based on my research, it appears that the editors you've listed are more likely meatpuppets than classic sockpuppets; that is, people who Israelbeach has recruited to join Wikipedia in order to assist him on votes and in edit wars. However, the newest one User:Bluegrasstom is obviously a classic sockpuppet, with the prime candidate for puppeteer being Israelbeach. I can bring this to the attention of a wider audience if you like, say of various Wikipeda maillists; would you like me to do so? Jayjg (talk) 17:37, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Hey, why not just throw a grenade into my house? Where do you people get the time for such hate? Lastly, you can contact Bluegrasstom, his real name is Tomer for comment by e-mail or telephone! Do you people have children? Were they ever taken away from you? Would you accept gender bias discrimination as an excuse to take your kids away from you. Your campaign here is a very sad one for which you can read about on my RFC. Best wishes. IsraelBeach 20:59, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Hey Beach, I think we found some "meatpuppets" here ;> Am I a friend of Israelbeach? Sure am. Do I respect him as a caring, dedicated dad? Yes. As one who serves in the IDF? Yes. As one who had done more to defend both his kids and country than most of you? Without a doubt. My only question to all of you is why? Why attack a man who has had his children taken away from him? Are you truly Jewish? Do you serve in the IDF? Or am I speaking to Hamas here? Or is it the same people who applauded when Rabin was murdered? I have never seen such organized hate among Jewish people. This is not Judaism. And this hate does not belong on Wikipedia! I ask you all, if you are in Israel, to contact Israelbeach and enjoy coffee together. Talk. Communicate. Don't we have enough problems with Islamic Jihad and Hizbullah? Stop eating one another, communicate and keep both Israel and Wikipedia strong. Nancetlv 22:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)