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:::I read the RFC/U and scrolled through the RFC. I'm willing to be considered. I will have to mention that I know nothing about MMA. I'd want to have a discussion with interested parties before I agreed, with backing out and no hard feelings if we didn't all feel right about going forward.--[[User:Wehwalt|Wehwalt]] ([[User talk:Wehwalt#top|talk]]) 23:24, 21 May 2012 (UTC) |
:::I read the RFC/U and scrolled through the RFC. I'm willing to be considered. I will have to mention that I know nothing about MMA. I'd want to have a discussion with interested parties before I agreed, with backing out and no hard feelings if we didn't all feel right about going forward.--[[User:Wehwalt|Wehwalt]] ([[User talk:Wehwalt#top|talk]]) 23:24, 21 May 2012 (UTC) |
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::::I made [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ARyan_Vesey&diff=493549070&oldid=493547442 this edit]. I know nothing about MMA, but my dad knows a lot, so I may be able to assist a bit in that area.<tt> </tt>[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']] [[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Ryan Vesey|<small>Review me!</small>]] 13:36, 22 May 2012 (UTC) |
::::I made [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ARyan_Vesey&diff=493549070&oldid=493547442 this edit]. I know nothing about MMA, but my dad knows a lot, so I may be able to assist a bit in that area.<tt> </tt>[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']] [[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Ryan Vesey|<small>Review me!</small>]] 13:36, 22 May 2012 (UTC) |
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:::::That would be fine. Better someone who is closer to speaking the lingo than me, I think. --[[User:Wehwalt|Wehwalt]] ([[User talk:Wehwalt#top|talk]]) 13:39, 22 May 2012 (UTC) |
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Glad to know you. Alarbus (talk) 12:59, 16 February 2012 (UTC) |
- Thanks. It is good to know you too, and good to have my allusions recognized!--Wehwalt (talk) 13:04, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for "amore e studio elucidandae", compare "beginning enlightenment" on my user page", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- Nice! Well, you have to start somewhere.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:48, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- I just added on top. And brought "He was despised" back a few days ago, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:05, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- That is really nice. And you saw what Alarbus and I are discussing ... I've been meaning to renovate my user page for some time, it's much too boasty right now.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:11, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- My personal Liberty Bell (see below): top of my talk :) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:18, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
- More Luther: Aus tiefer Not schrei ich zu dir, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:06, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
- How well deserved: your latest FA star for a murdered one! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:46, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. Yes, he was murdered just like a Shakespearean character ... and by an assassin. I like your Liberty Bell.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:02, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
- My latest Man of Sorrows, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:17, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
- Man of Constant Sorrow -- Dianna (talk) 15:35, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
- My latest Man of Sorrows, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:17, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. Yes, he was murdered just like a Shakespearean character ... and by an assassin. I like your Liberty Bell.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:02, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
- That is really nice. And you saw what Alarbus and I are discussing ... I've been meaning to renovate my user page for some time, it's much too boasty right now.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:11, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- I just added on top. And brought "He was despised" back a few days ago, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:05, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- Nice! Well, you have to start somewhere.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:48, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for "amore e studio elucidandae", compare "beginning enlightenment" on my user page", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, I was referring not to your name but first to the sorrows of others, our sorrows being only the consequence. He was despised, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:05, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
- I changed the dedication to the second to last Man of Sorrows, appr for Good Friday (he doesn't like the colours of the other, not good for the blind, I keep working on it, see Passion on my talk), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:04, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
- I worked on it: it's now a decent black and white. Dona nobis pacem. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:43, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- I changed the dedication to the second to last Man of Sorrows, appr for Good Friday (he doesn't like the colours of the other, not good for the blind, I keep working on it, see Passion on my talk), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:04, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
- Nailin' stuff to doors, are we? So, how many theses are we nailing to the Castle Church door this time? - Neutralhomer • Talk • 11:41, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- As many as it takes.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:45, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Well, Luther got excommunicated (as well as all the Lutherans...and the Catholics still won't talk to us today over it) when he nailed his 95 Theses to the Castle Church door in 1517, but meh, why not? :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 12:20, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Luther got banned, that means he could be killed with no punishment for the killer. In Germany, the Catholics talk about it, we call it Ökumene, (see witch hunt, see pic of choir with a singer dressed in pumpkin colour, the Catholic choir sang in the Protestant church Nun bitten wir den Heiligen Geist in Luther's words, Did you know ... that the first stanza of the hymn Nun bitten wir den Heiligen Geist, asking the Holy Spirit for the right faith most of all, is documented in German in the 13th century, and the later three relate to faith, love and hope?), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:31, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Lutherans and Catholics have tried many times to get along, even as recently as September 2011, but there are differences that just never seem to get fixed and screw everything up. Some of the US Lutheran denominations are trying on their own to talk to the Vatican and kinda come together and let bygones be bygones. But some think that will never happen, because of those same differences. Oh well. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 12:44, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- That should not stop us from acting on "faith, love and hope" (a little older than denominations), - as said above, you have to start somewhere, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:40, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Seriously so: Vier ernste Gesänge, did you know ... that Johannes Brahms composed two major works about death inspired by the Luther Bible, his Requiem as a young man, and those, when close to his own death? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:41, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
- Did you know that the writing on faith, love and hope is the text of #4, the culmination? Did you know that the article on the songs says "more" about Kathleen Ferrier than the Main page on her day (22 April)? Compare, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:00, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- I did review the article as it came through and I regret it did not run with a better blurb.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:29, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- So did I. The "blurb" was announced about an hour before it appeared, when the author was probably asleep, and I didn't feel knowledgeable enough to ask for a change. I think such articles should be announced at least two weeks before to the project involved (not just one expert), in this case Classical music, to get the article polished, red links filled, and the blurb written as a decent summary, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:38, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- I did review the article as it came through and I regret it did not run with a better blurb.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:29, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- That should not stop us from acting on "faith, love and hope" (a little older than denominations), - as said above, you have to start somewhere, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:40, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Lutherans and Catholics have tried many times to get along, even as recently as September 2011, but there are differences that just never seem to get fixed and screw everything up. Some of the US Lutheran denominations are trying on their own to talk to the Vatican and kinda come together and let bygones be bygones. But some think that will never happen, because of those same differences. Oh well. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 12:44, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Luther got banned, that means he could be killed with no punishment for the killer. In Germany, the Catholics talk about it, we call it Ökumene, (see witch hunt, see pic of choir with a singer dressed in pumpkin colour, the Catholic choir sang in the Protestant church Nun bitten wir den Heiligen Geist in Luther's words, Did you know ... that the first stanza of the hymn Nun bitten wir den Heiligen Geist, asking the Holy Spirit for the right faith most of all, is documented in German in the 13th century, and the later three relate to faith, love and hope?), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:31, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Well, Luther got excommunicated (as well as all the Lutherans...and the Catholics still won't talk to us today over it) when he nailed his 95 Theses to the Castle Church door in 1517, but meh, why not? :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 12:20, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
"Ist nicht des Herrn Wort ... wie ein Hammer?", we heard this and your comment in a staged version in the theater pictured on my user, staged by Jens-Daniel Herzog: when the fire fell, all PC screens went black ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:24, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
- Choir pictured, and more, perhaps I should add to the article, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:17, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
- Seems very worthwhile.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:19, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
- I added a bit, not knowing how to phrase the interaction between the "Masse" (crowd?) and the single man whom they cheer (there actually were cheerleaders! presidential campaign came to mind) but who in the end feels severely misunderstood and leaves the podium, - they keep cheering, not really missing him, - chilling scene. The music was presented intact, complete, and well performed, - I sang it three times, once here, once as a summer sing in English opposite Carnegie Hall, once here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:00, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, I did not know you had attained such heights. Certainly, the story says something about Wikipedia, where we seem to cast out those who do the most, and keep the do-nothings.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:05, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
- Heights in choir, of course. - The story also says "Wer bis an das Ende beharrt, der wird selig" (Matthew 10:22), and I remember the first conductor having us sing the "beharrt" (more active than "endure") section very insisting and heavy on the repeated notes, the upward melody of the other with almost immaterial sound, blessed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:34, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thought about the opening line, "vor dem ich stehe", wondering if it translates more or less to "what I stand for"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:15, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, I did not know you had attained such heights. Certainly, the story says something about Wikipedia, where we seem to cast out those who do the most, and keep the do-nothings.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:05, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
- I added a bit, not knowing how to phrase the interaction between the "Masse" (crowd?) and the single man whom they cheer (there actually were cheerleaders! presidential campaign came to mind) but who in the end feels severely misunderstood and leaves the podium, - they keep cheering, not really missing him, - chilling scene. The music was presented intact, complete, and well performed, - I sang it three times, once here, once as a summer sing in English opposite Carnegie Hall, once here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:00, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
- Seems very worthwhile.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:19, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Siegmund
I thought of the name change from Wehwalt to Siegmund when I nominated this (on the Main page now) and added it to my personal memories, remembering Die Walküre, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- That is where my name comes from, specifically from Hunding's call "Wehwalt! Wehwalt!" near the end of Act II. When I took a tour of the Festspielhaus 20 years ago, I sang it quietly to myself from the stage. And I saw it live in Bayreuth in 1990 and 1996 (when I went in 2005, it was a year without a Ring).--Wehwalt (talk) 14:42, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- A Ring here, a gem there: are you watching a precious article, seeing the latest dramatic news? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:27, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- I saw, thanks to you. How terrible.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:31, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- For an uplift look at this gallery: Düsseldorf school of painting including a familiar one, artist on the Main page, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:07, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- How dismal. :)--Wehwalt (talk) 09:41, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- 2401 (hits yesterday for the inspirational people under oppressive conditions), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:24, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- Passion: He was despised --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:43, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
- Easter: eggs and peace --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:18, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- And to you. We seem to be getting some article work done amid the drama!--Wehwalt (talk) 12:01, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for reviewing the eggs! - Did you see who also got article work done? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:08, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- And to you. We seem to be getting some article work done amid the drama!--Wehwalt (talk) 12:01, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- 2401 (hits yesterday for the inspirational people under oppressive conditions), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:24, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
- I saw, thanks to you. How terrible.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:31, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- A Ring here, a gem there: are you watching a precious article, seeing the latest dramatic news? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:27, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Article work: Vier ernste Gesänge, more on Kathleen Ferrier than what you could read on the Main page on her day, 22 April, seriously. Not as serious, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:47, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Happy I could unclutter my user once more (leaving "despised" as a comment) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Zhirinovsky's ass
This is entertaining; makes a nice section header, too. Don't miss the talk page, with 3, count'em, 3 requested move discussions. (noticed this on WP:Great Dismal Swamp. Best, Alarbus (talk) 05:11, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you, made my day! (I found out just yesterday that who did that first here did it the day after my first year. I try to follow the example, you know, also makes a nice section header.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:04, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
- Best wishes, Gerda. Buck 11:35, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
- Happy Easter --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:45, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
- Best wishes, Gerda. Buck 11:35, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Adam Eckfeldt
The article Adam Eckfeldt you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Adam Eckfeldt for comments about the article. Well done! There is a backlog of articles waiting for review, why not help out and review a nominated article yourself? GoPTCN 15:28, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, I will. You got one in mind? Any of the ones you're trying to get improved need a review?--Wehwalt (talk) 15:35, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- My goal is to see Fyodor Dostoyevsky in TFA. The article was messy with a lot of copyvio, so I decided to clean it up. Not until later I was thinking about nominating it at FAC in the future. I also want to nominate The Concert in Central Park at FAC, but before doing so the lead should be expanded and maybe the prose copyedited.GoPTCN 16:55, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Peer Review?
Hi Wehwalt, I just put Lynching of Jesse Washington up for peer review and thought I'd ask if you'd be interested in peer reviewing. The article includes what may have been the worst defense attorneys of all time. No problem if you don't have time though. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 04:54, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- Not a problem, I'll get to it this weekend.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:46, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, I look forward to it. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:49, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot for the review, I'll probably bring the article to FAC pretty soon. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:32, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- Random question, what do you think of the {{sfnm}} template? I've just started using it on a couple articles to get a cleaner look, instead of [23][24][25] after each sentence. Someone mentioned to me a while back that he didn't care for sfnm though. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:45, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I have anything to add to what's been said on that question. I really just worry about the text and hope for help on the technical aspects.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:34, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, that probably is the right approach to take. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:51, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- When I grew up, you saved your computer programs to punched tape. I'm not that good at the technical stuff.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:53, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- lol, and you had to walk uphill both ways to the computer lab. Well, anyway, I've nominated the lynching article at FAC, hope they like it. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:23, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
- When I grew up, you saved your computer programs to punched tape. I'm not that good at the technical stuff.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:53, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, that probably is the right approach to take. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:51, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I have anything to add to what's been said on that question. I really just worry about the text and hope for help on the technical aspects.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:34, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Brundage
Done the sig. – Connormah (talk) 05:08, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Things have gone quiet
...at least, they have in my neck of the woods. You can almost see the tumbleweed drifting across my talkpage. I don't know if this is just a tranquil moment or whether it's more significant – the Twilight of the Gods, perhaps. Anyhow, amid the lack of hubbub I have been working steadily on my latest opus, A Child of Our Time, and have now posted it at peer review. Any commenents would be most welcome. - — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brianboulton (talk • contribs)
- It may be, the problem is Dammerung is an ambiguous word, and though Wotan went in the end, having sat through the Ring five times, I can testify that he took his sweet time about it. I daresay Alberich eventually brought him down, in a way. I shall be over there once the rush to review it calms down a bit. I have nothing ready, but am plugging industriously away.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:40, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
I don't know ..
Oh geesh ... I didn't know you had JSTOR .. cool. Actually, I really should have realized that after all the work you have done to get it for everyone else. (regardless of "who" takes credit for it). I don't know a number or anything. Just the guys name: John Heaphy Fellowes. How do I find a number? — Ched : ? 00:56, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- Have you done a JSTOR search already? You can run a search without having access, they will only show you the first page, but it should give you a URL, which I can use to get the article and email it to you. Thanks for the thought.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:03, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Four Award | ||
Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on William Jennings Bryan presidential campaign, 1896. TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:28, 14 May 2012 (UTC) |
--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:28, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. And it is a Chicago article, too!--Wehwalt (talk) 19:34, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- A successful "unsuccessful" whistle stop tour, star well deserved, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:40, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
- Well done, Sir! :) Another FOUR award, you're makin' us other editors look bad. :) Seriously though, good work and Congrats! :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 18:53, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks but the bio people have me beat hollow. Hope all is well with you?--Wehwalt (talk) 19:15, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
- All is quite well. :) Things are slowly getting better. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 01:37, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks but the bio people have me beat hollow. Hope all is well with you?--Wehwalt (talk) 19:15, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
- Well done, Sir! :) Another FOUR award, you're makin' us other editors look bad. :) Seriously though, good work and Congrats! :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 18:53, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Bugle interview
Hey Wehwalt. It's been awhile since we last talked, so I hope this message finds you well. The Bugle is going to start a semi-regular series called the "Article writers' guide", and the fist subject is biographical articles. Would you mind adding your views to the questions here, and adding any questions you feel are necessary? Thanks! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 05:31, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, certainly.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:55, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, it was good to get a non-milhister there! The newsletter should go out by the end of this weekend at the latest. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 03:56, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Re:
Thanks! It's been a pleasure contributing to it and working with you. Best, Dan.—DCGeist (talk) 16:24, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Jimbo´s Chavez discussion
Hi Wehwalt, I just hope you didn´t thought I was refering to you in my comment as User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Can_you_moderate_or_control_pro-Chavez_activists_on_sp.wikipedia.3F. I was definitely refering to Llanero1978 who even claims he personaly knew Chavez and mentioned some other personal involvement (of his family as well), so he seems to be quite partisan on how he deals with the subject. Well, just to let you know. Best regards, FkpCascais (talk) 22:13, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
- Not a problem. I AGF, but also recognize that the internet contains people who claim all sorts of things :)--Wehwalt (talk) 22:17, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
- Oh no, you really thought I was refering to you there. I apologise for not having been more clear there, it is just that I was so surprised when I read last Llanero1978 comment there that I didn´t even imagined someone would missunderstand me. I apologise for this missunderstanding :) FkpCascais (talk) 22:23, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
JSTOR
hello,
yes, I don't have acccess to JSTOR, but I am already signed at Wikipedia:Requests for JSTOR access. Now I am waiting for their response. Regards.--GoPTCN 11:40, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
- As you may have to wait for that, please feel free to ask me before then. Keep in mind that JSTOR has not yet been obtained by WMF; despite TCO giving them the necessary information six months ago, and there is no announced date. I did look at that page and saw a very long list; I gather a number of people are hoping for largesse to be thrown their way :) --Wehwalt (talk) 11:43, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
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Main page appearance: C. D. Howe
This is a note to let the main editors of C. D. Howe know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on May 20, 2012. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/May 20, 2012. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director Raul654 (talk · contribs) or his delegate Dabomb87 (talk · contribs), or start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. The blurb as it stands now is below:
C. D. Howe (1886–1960) was a powerful Canadian Cabinet minister of the Liberal Party. He is credited with transforming the Canadian economy from agriculture-based to industrial. Born in Massachusetts, Howe moved to Nova Scotia as a young adult to take up a professorship at Dalhousie University. After working for the Canadian government as an engineer, he began his own firm, and became a wealthy man. In 1935, he was recruited as a Liberal candidate for the Canadian House of Commons by then Opposition leader Mackenzie King. The Liberals won the election in a landslide, and Howe won his seat. Mackenzie King appointed him to the Cabinet. There, he took major parts in many new enterprises, including the founding of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation and Trans-Canada Air Lines. When World War II began in 1939, Howe played a crucial role in Canada's war effort, and recruited many corporate executives to serve in wartime enterprises. Howe's impatience with the necessity for parliamentary debate of his proposals won him few friends, and he was often accused of dictatorial conduct by the Opposition. In the 1957 election, Howe's actions and policies were made an issue by Opposition leader John Diefenbaker. He lost his seat in the election, and Diefenbaker became Prime Minister, ending almost 22 years of Liberal rule. (more...)
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I have Sir Alec up for FAC (Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Alec Douglas-Home/archive1) should you care to look in and comment. Tim riley (talk) 14:51, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Book
hello,
can you search the following book on JSTOR: Miles Davis: sein Leben, seine Musik, seine Schallplatten. It is in German, but it contains important content about his LPs, from the page 105 on (I was unable to find that information in English, maybe because there are more Davis fans in Germany than in other countries :)). It might be useful for Miles Davis discography. Regards.--GoPTCN 21:03, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- I don't see it there. It usually has articles, not books. I don't see any articles which discuss that book, unfortunately. You may need to talk to someone in Germany, or go to the expense of getting the book.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:45, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Adoptee or mentee
Hello! I selected a couple adopter names that resonated well with me to see if someone could mentor a new editor already going through RFC/U. There is disagreement whether the editor's admitted bad habit of not handling disputes well is reformable or irreformable. It appeared the next step was for an outside entrant (me) on the "pro" !side to see if a neutral mentor can be found agreeable to all parties. It would be understood that if two other editors objected to the mentee's edits as, say, personal attacks, the mentee and the objectors (e.g., those from the "irreformable" !side) would give you the power to make a judgment to strike or not to strike. The editor in question is User:Agent00f and the topic area is mixed martial arts, though he has expressed willingness to demonstrate constructive edits to other topic areas. You can see some of the hot pages in my edit history, but I'll watch for replies here for a bit. Thank you for your consideration. JJB 19:34, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- To save me some bother, do you have a link to the discussion (s) in question?--Wehwalt (talk) 19:38, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Sorry. Try RFC/U or RFC. JJB 21:10, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- OK, I'll look at it but it likely won't be today, I'm busy with an article and can't concentrate on anything else.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:22, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- I read the RFC/U and scrolled through the RFC. I'm willing to be considered. I will have to mention that I know nothing about MMA. I'd want to have a discussion with interested parties before I agreed, with backing out and no hard feelings if we didn't all feel right about going forward.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:24, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- OK, I'll look at it but it likely won't be today, I'm busy with an article and can't concentrate on anything else.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:22, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Need An Opinion
Was updating some of the broken references on the Stephens City article and one is giving me grief. It is appears the website is having an "internal service error", so I can't pull of the link for the reference, but it is still on the archives for the site (scroll down and look for "Shull sworn in as mayor of town"). Would the archive link (showing the page I have linked to currently) be enough for a reference or would I have to find an actual article. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 23:00, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Have you considered using
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in the cite web template while leaving the original url intact? I think it is generally used when something has been archived by an external site, but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. Ryan Vesey Review me! 23:03, 20 May 2012 (UTC)- Well, this isn't an archive as in the Internet Archive, it's just the archive with links for all the articles that appeared in the paper for that month and year (in this case June, 2010) from the newspaper itself. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 23:06, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- If it's from a newspaper that has a decaying online edition, remember, you don't need the online source if it was once in the newspaper, though the page number would be nice to give the reader. You might also want to consult User:Br'er Rabbit, he's up on such things better than me and very helpful on the technical things. (it's Stephens City, Virginia, BR)--Wehwalt (talk) 23:10, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Okie Dokie, will ask him. I never thought about just linking via the newspaper information (without the URL). I forget I can do that sometimes. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 23:15, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)I see your point, because there is still no way to know the content of the article. I don't think it would be harmful though, it proves that the source existed at least. The fact that a citation link no longer exists isn't a reason to remove it. You can assume good faith that the material cited was in the source. If you wish, you could email the webmaster of the Stephens City website asking for the minutes of May, June, and July 2010. Currently, the minutes are only posted for 2011-on. A link to the webmaster's email can be found here. Ryan Vesey Review me! 23:17, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Good idea Ryan, never thought about that. :) To the email! <whoosh> - Neutralhomer • Talk • 23:23, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- If he emails you them in PDF or some such, then you could cite directly to them by page number. My concern with dead links is that they attract, if not flies, then attention from FAR.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:28, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- That's why I am updating them so I can keep the article out of FAR. Don't want to go there, FAC was bad enough. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 23:33, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Smart move, that. I drove through your burg a few weeks ago though did not stop; the Beltway was impassible so I couldn't get to 270, as I was driving to Illinois. I stopped in Winchester for gas and would have had breakfast had the Shoney's still been in business.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:40, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Shoney's is closed? Wow! Thought that place was still open. I don't go on that end of Winchester that often, except to get Long John Silvers once-in-a-very-great-while. There are some pretty nice places on Exit 313, along with your typical local restaurants. Of course, us here on 307 we have the typical fast food places (Mickey D's, BK, Arby's, Waffle House) along with the High Point Truck Stop in the center of town, but that is more like a diner to the local folks (not many truckers go there cause of the far away location). Hope ya make a return visit to Winchester/Stephens City soon. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 01:26, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- A lot of them have closed. I like them because you don't have to waste a lot of time waiting for your order, but can just help yourself.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:42, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Well, next time you come through the area, check out the "Butcher Block Buffet" in Stephens City (Exit 307). Always a good meal, have heard awesome things about it, but never went (no money to eat out) and right by the interstate. They have a sign pointed toward 81, so you can see where they are. They are opposite Sheetz when you get off either exit. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 02:11, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- A lot of them have closed. I like them because you don't have to waste a lot of time waiting for your order, but can just help yourself.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:42, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Shoney's is closed? Wow! Thought that place was still open. I don't go on that end of Winchester that often, except to get Long John Silvers once-in-a-very-great-while. There are some pretty nice places on Exit 313, along with your typical local restaurants. Of course, us here on 307 we have the typical fast food places (Mickey D's, BK, Arby's, Waffle House) along with the High Point Truck Stop in the center of town, but that is more like a diner to the local folks (not many truckers go there cause of the far away location). Hope ya make a return visit to Winchester/Stephens City soon. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 01:26, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Smart move, that. I drove through your burg a few weeks ago though did not stop; the Beltway was impassible so I couldn't get to 270, as I was driving to Illinois. I stopped in Winchester for gas and would have had breakfast had the Shoney's still been in business.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:40, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- That's why I am updating them so I can keep the article out of FAR. Don't want to go there, FAC was bad enough. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 23:33, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- If he emails you them in PDF or some such, then you could cite directly to them by page number. My concern with dead links is that they attract, if not flies, then attention from FAR.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:28, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Good idea Ryan, never thought about that. :) To the email! <whoosh> - Neutralhomer • Talk • 23:23, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, if you go on the other side of the bridge, turn down "Town Run Lane" (which is right beside the KFC/Taco Bell) you will see it on your left (81 is on your right). It's between the KFC/Taco Bell and the two motels. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 02:38, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Need Another Opinion
Can you give the Demographics section a look-see, particularly the Ancestry section (last paragraph in that section). In 2000, the US Census Bureau the Ancestry stats in precentages, but in 2010, they just gave figures (numbers, no precentages). I did my best to change up how I was writing the stats, but it looks kinda bad. It is sourced through the US Census Bureau, but my writing just sucks. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 04:17, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- I believe it would be appropriate to continue to use percentages if you wished. Simply dividing the numbers who claimed a certain descent by the total population should not be considered WP:OR in my opinion (but I'd like to see Wehwalt's take on this). For example you could state that 20.4% claimed German descent, 11.2% claimed Irish descent... Ryan Vesey Review me! 04:49, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- The precentages were according to the 2000 Census and the figures according to the 2010 Census. If someone could do the math (I suck at math) and put those figures into precentages, then I could go back to the previous sentence setup, but with the current (2010) information.
- Also, I am considering removing the "Geographic location box" at the bottom of the page. I added it because I thought it was neat (back in 2010). Today (in 2012), I think it is just cluttering the "External Links" section. What do you think, should it stay or should it go, now?- Neutralhomer • Talk • 05:32, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- So I played around with some div tags and this is the example I came up with. I think it is nice and concise; however, it does use html rather than wikimarkup. I'm going to see if I can have the same result using wikimarkup. Ryan Vesey Review me! 06:23, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Here is my example using wikimarkup. I don't think it looks as good, but it is probably less confusing to read. Personally, I would go with the div tags one if you want to go with either. Ryan Vesey Review me! 06:31, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Note, both of my above two comments are referring to example changes I made to the external links section in order to keep the geographic location box while making it look uncluttered. I almost think that it looks less cluttered like this than it would with no geographic location box at all because white space is removed. Ryan Vesey Review me! 06:31, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- I'll put the percentages into a table for you. I don't think the geographic location box is too much clutter, but I think it would look somewhat better if some type of div tag or something could allow it to exist to the left of the listen to this article box and the commons box. Ryan Vesey Review me! 06:08, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the precentage chart, I will add that posthaste. I am not sure if there is a div tag for the geolocation box, but I will check. I am going to cut the table below, so it doesn't take up space on Wehwalt's talk page and paste it over on the Stephens City, Virginia page as is. Again, thanks! :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 06:38, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Did you notice in the 2 comments I made directly above this that I found some solutions using both div tags and wikimarkup? Ryan Vesey Review me! 06:42, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- No, I missed that. Seen the stat box and focused on that. My goof. On the stat box, would it be possible to have the stat box on a subpage of the Stephens City article (like Stephens City, Virginia/AncestryStatBox or something) and transclude it to the Demographics section, so the box code didn't take up a large amount of space? - Neutralhomer • Talk • 06:46, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Checked the two div tag versions out and I like this one, but it is possible to have the geolocation box as it is, but not bringing the external links (town site and the Newtown History Center link) down as it has done? - Neutralhomer • Talk • 06:49, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)I checked Wikipedia:Subpages#Articles do not have sub-pages (main namespace) and I don't think it is possible to create it there. It appears like you should create it at Template:Stephens City Ancestry Box or whatever you would like to name it within the template namespace. Ryan Vesey Review me! 06:53, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- As for the geolocation box, that was my problem with attempting to use wikimarkup. So far, I haven't been able to figure out how to now move those down. What is it that you prefer about that version, the wikimarkup or the size of the geolocation box? If it is the size of the geolocation box, I think can modify the version that uses div tags to make it similar. Ryan Vesey Review me! 06:56, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- On the template, I created it and it can be found at {{Stephens City Ancestry Box}}, but I am unsure if it will work and not mash up the sections.
- On the geolocation box, I perfer the size of the geolocation box as it doesn't take up as much space as it previously did. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 07:14, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- If you don't mind, I will reinstate my first example with a column width of 700px instead of 800 px. That should leave the geolocation box looking roughly like it did in the second edit while removing some of the other issues like the extra spacing. Ryan Vesey Review me! 07:20, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- I don't mind at all. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 07:41, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- If you don't mind, I will reinstate my first example with a column width of 700px instead of 800 px. That should leave the geolocation box looking roughly like it did in the second edit while removing some of the other issues like the extra spacing. Ryan Vesey Review me! 07:20, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- As for the geolocation box, that was my problem with attempting to use wikimarkup. So far, I haven't been able to figure out how to now move those down. What is it that you prefer about that version, the wikimarkup or the size of the geolocation box? If it is the size of the geolocation box, I think can modify the version that uses div tags to make it similar. Ryan Vesey Review me! 06:56, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- No, I missed that. Seen the stat box and focused on that. My goof. On the stat box, would it be possible to have the stat box on a subpage of the Stephens City article (like Stephens City, Virginia/AncestryStatBox or something) and transclude it to the Demographics section, so the box code didn't take up a large amount of space? - Neutralhomer • Talk • 06:46, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Did you notice in the 2 comments I made directly above this that I found some solutions using both div tags and wikimarkup? Ryan Vesey Review me! 06:42, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the precentage chart, I will add that posthaste. I am not sure if there is a div tag for the geolocation box, but I will check. I am going to cut the table below, so it doesn't take up space on Wehwalt's talk page and paste it over on the Stephens City, Virginia page as is. Again, thanks! :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 06:38, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Avery Brundage
I'd be willing to PR it for you or take it up for review if it is listed at GAC, next month. I am really hectic with the Roy Lichtenstein exhibit that opens at the Art Institute of Chicago tomorrow. I have about 10 books checked out from the Chicago Public Library. Prior to May 9 WP only had one of his paintings. Now see Category:Paintings by Roy Lichtenstein has 28 paintings. List it at PR next month or GAC sooner and ping me in about 3 weeks or when you see I am no longer working on those articles.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:57, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- I will probably have it at FAC by then. Of course, feel free to review it then. Good luck with the Liechtenstein. Well done with that. I have a half dozen checked out on the Olympics or Bryan myself.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:35, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Template:Infobox coin and Au/Ag
I cut the parens. The idea here was to mimic the Mass parameters (four of them). See this test. I filled in the other silver fields with stuff. The "0.36169[1] troy oz" would have appeared in parens. I think the idea with Mass was to use all of the fields. If you don't expect to use all of them, we could leave it as-is, but I'm thinking that it might be better to cut the fields you're not going to use (and I'm not sure which those would be). Jack Merridew 17:27, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- I would cut them. Is silver sold by the ounce worldwide? When I was in Dubai they sold gold by the troy ounce, though everything else was metric (I bought a little tenth-ounce coin which today would be more expensive). Don't remember what they did with silver though. Thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:37, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- which "them"? Au and Ag each have four fields:
| Gold = | Gold_troy_oz = | Gold_grain = | Gold_ounce =
- and Silver...
- I've no idea what the norms are in numismatics (or bullion trading). Or failed dispute resolution systems, for that matter. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 18:53, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- I think only the ones which result in troy ounces are needed. Grains is very obsolete, but as weights of coins were often expressed in grains at one time, you might see that in a coin article, but few modern readers "think" in it. This is for the people who are consulting us for the quick and dirty on the coin they found in Granny's attic before they convert it into folding cash. On the other, touche.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:58, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- I'll just cut the others; if they're being used, they should be kicked into line, or some could be restored. I'm thinking only you're doing much of this. On the other, there's always, MfD ;) or more reasonably tagging with {{historical}} (or {{humour}})... Br'er Rabbit (talk) 19:17, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Not quite, but tracking categories could be added... I've not actually done that, but expect it's straightforward. enough. Have you added this to many? Expect anyone else to have? Br'er Rabbit (talk) 19:45, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Probably only me, since I'm only the only active coin writer as far as I know. It should be eleven, every article about a dime or above, plus the Jefferson nickel because of its wartime version.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:12, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- I look'em over; you're busy. I've got the template talk page watched, so I'll notice complaints. Moby Dick 20:45, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Having taken on Tim's comments, I could probably nom at FAC, but I'd like to see what Brian has to say and also maybe get some feedback from others. The article has had a fair amount of non-you or me traffic today.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:04, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- I'm seeing that; I believe I saw Brian say he'd be looking soon. Speaking of looking. I'll keep an eye on it; the PR page, too. Gonna be re-looking at Antarctic pages, too. Portuguese Man o' War 21:10, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Having taken on Tim's comments, I could probably nom at FAC, but I'd like to see what Brian has to say and also maybe get some feedback from others. The article has had a fair amount of non-you or me traffic today.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:04, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- I look'em over; you're busy. I've got the template talk page watched, so I'll notice complaints. Moby Dick 20:45, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Probably only me, since I'm only the only active coin writer as far as I know. It should be eleven, every article about a dime or above, plus the Jefferson nickel because of its wartime version.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:12, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- Not quite, but tracking categories could be added... I've not actually done that, but expect it's straightforward. enough. Have you added this to many? Expect anyone else to have? Br'er Rabbit (talk) 19:45, 21 May 2012 (UTC)