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. El_C 03:34, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Vnkd (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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That mr.user2000 user is making two tables by himself which were not discussed with anyone. Even they are different in format between each other with the Yemeni one full of assumptions: it is full of "*" "claim" "+" "-" ... I am asking, how does that correlate with an encyclopedia? How can he pretend to know facts about two conflicts (the Yemeni even more) with very limited information? Some of the entries are sourced through RT.com, Iranpress, or the Iranian/Hezboallah Almanarnews which are disputed on wikipedia as trustable sources. I did a lot the entries in those articles, but I really hate to see a person coming in and building up a report based on his POV, drawing conclusions about facts that happened in a place far away, while in most of the entries I tried to keep all the different sides reports together. There is nothing personal, seriously look at the contents! I can read political motivations in his edits, siding with the former Soviet/modern Russian POV.
And I can read on your moderator talk page he reported - "vnkd is back" like I was just making vandalism or something. Just read at my edits which are still there around. Also I can see he "undid" a change on my personal page. That's also quite mean. For my personal will, I want my page to stay blank. I don't see how a user who war-edits other peoples' personal talk page can be a good user. No, vnkd has a real name and a real life. I see that this guy has plenty of time, but still he should not be allowed to monopolize this place with his own conclusions.
I ask to have different moderator checking into this point as your user:El_C political view is sided with the one of that mr.user2000 and very clearly shown on your personal page. I ask this to be openly discussed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Military aviation task force
Vnkd (talk) 06:44, 17 January 2021 (UTC)Notes:
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{{Unblock on hold |1=blocking administrator |2=This is simply unfair and politically motivated. I did not cancel anything this time, I just placed the "disputed label" and started the discussion because it is disputed by the parties involved in the war first of all! Read each entry and you will find tons of claims and counterclaims. No way you can make a straightforward table about it. That mr.user2000 user is making two tables by himself which were not discussed with anyone. Even they are different in format between each other with the Yemeni one full of assumptions: it is full of "*" "claim" "+" "-" ... I am asking, how does that correlate with an encyclopedia? How can he pretend to know facts about two conflicts (the Yemeni even more) with very limited information? Some of the entries are sourced through RT.com, Iranpress, or the Iranian/Hezboallah Almanarnews which are disputed on wikipedia as trustable sources. I did a lot the entries in those articles, but I really hate to see a person coming in and building up a report based on his POV, drawing conclusions about facts that happened in a place far away, while in most of the entries I tried to keep all the different sides reports together. There is nothing personal, seriously look at the contents! I can read political motivations in his edits, siding with the former Soviet/modern Russian POV. And I can read on your moderator talk page he reported - "vnkd is back" like I was just making vandalism or something. Just read at my edits which are still there around. Also I can see he "undid" a change on my personal page. That's also quite mean. For my personal will, I want my page to stay blank. I don't see how a user who war-edits other peoples' personal talk page can be a good user. No, vnkd has a real name and a real life. I see that this guy has plenty of time, but still he should not be allowed to monopolize this place with his own conclusions. I ask to have different moderator checking into this point as your [[user:El_C]] political view is sided with the one of that mr.user2000 and very clearly shown on your personal page. I ask this to be openly discussed at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Military aviation task force]] [[User:Vnkd|Vnkd]] ([[User talk:Vnkd#top|talk]]) 06:44, 17 January 2021 (UTC) |3 = ~~~~}}
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{{unblock reviewed |1=This is simply unfair and politically motivated. I did not cancel anything this time, I just placed the "disputed label" and started the discussion because it is disputed by the parties involved in the war first of all! Read each entry and you will find tons of claims and counterclaims. No way you can make a straightforward table about it. That mr.user2000 user is making two tables by himself which were not discussed with anyone. Even they are different in format between each other with the Yemeni one full of assumptions: it is full of "*" "claim" "+" "-" ... I am asking, how does that correlate with an encyclopedia? How can he pretend to know facts about two conflicts (the Yemeni even more) with very limited information? Some of the entries are sourced through RT.com, Iranpress, or the Iranian/Hezboallah Almanarnews which are disputed on wikipedia as trustable sources. I did a lot the entries in those articles, but I really hate to see a person coming in and building up a report based on his POV, drawing conclusions about facts that happened in a place far away, while in most of the entries I tried to keep all the different sides reports together. There is nothing personal, seriously look at the contents! I can read political motivations in his edits, siding with the former Soviet/modern Russian POV. And I can read on your moderator talk page he reported - "vnkd is back" like I was just making vandalism or something. Just read at my edits which are still there around. Also I can see he "undid" a change on my personal page. That's also quite mean. For my personal will, I want my page to stay blank. I don't see how a user who war-edits other peoples' personal talk page can be a good user. No, vnkd has a real name and a real life. I see that this guy has plenty of time, but still he should not be allowed to monopolize this place with his own conclusions. I ask to have different moderator checking into this point as your [[user:El_C]] political view is sided with the one of that mr.user2000 and very clearly shown on your personal page. I ask this to be openly discussed at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Military aviation task force]] [[User:Vnkd|Vnkd]] ([[User talk:Vnkd#top|talk]]) 06:44, 17 January 2021 (UTC) |decline = {{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}}
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{{unblock reviewed |1=This is simply unfair and politically motivated. I did not cancel anything this time, I just placed the "disputed label" and started the discussion because it is disputed by the parties involved in the war first of all! Read each entry and you will find tons of claims and counterclaims. No way you can make a straightforward table about it. That mr.user2000 user is making two tables by himself which were not discussed with anyone. Even they are different in format between each other with the Yemeni one full of assumptions: it is full of "*" "claim" "+" "-" ... I am asking, how does that correlate with an encyclopedia? How can he pretend to know facts about two conflicts (the Yemeni even more) with very limited information? Some of the entries are sourced through RT.com, Iranpress, or the Iranian/Hezboallah Almanarnews which are disputed on wikipedia as trustable sources. I did a lot the entries in those articles, but I really hate to see a person coming in and building up a report based on his POV, drawing conclusions about facts that happened in a place far away, while in most of the entries I tried to keep all the different sides reports together. There is nothing personal, seriously look at the contents! I can read political motivations in his edits, siding with the former Soviet/modern Russian POV. And I can read on your moderator talk page he reported - "vnkd is back" like I was just making vandalism or something. Just read at my edits which are still there around. Also I can see he "undid" a change on my personal page. That's also quite mean. For my personal will, I want my page to stay blank. I don't see how a user who war-edits other peoples' personal talk page can be a good user. No, vnkd has a real name and a real life. I see that this guy has plenty of time, but still he should not be allowed to monopolize this place with his own conclusions. I ask to have different moderator checking into this point as your [[user:El_C]] political view is sided with the one of that mr.user2000 and very clearly shown on your personal page. I ask this to be openly discussed at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Military aviation task force]] [[User:Vnkd|Vnkd]] ([[User talk:Vnkd#top|talk]]) 06:44, 17 January 2021 (UTC) |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}
- Vnkd, the point is that you need to stop harassing Mr.User200 with article talk page sections like this and this. And please also stop casting aspersions about him, or about me, for that matter. That said, you are allowed to blank your talk page. So, feel free to do so at any time. I'll tell Mr.User200 that it is inappropriate for them to revert you here. El_C 15:00, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Vnkd (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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Blocking me because I reported the disputed tag in the correct way and started the discussion is simply unfair. If El_C feels that my title (that being: By type = personal assumptions by Mr.user2000) on the discussion page about Mr.user2000 offended wikipedia spirit then El_C should also feel that writing "vnkd is back" like I was just trolling or reverting changes on my personal page should be equally treated by a block to mr.user2000. By the way, since those tables are 99% work by mr.user2000, I don't see any harassment in starting a discussion in the talk page by saying "By type = personal assumptions by Mr.user2000" Rather I see harassment against me, in his reporting me to El_C everytime that I touch his sacred tables in Yemeni and Syrian Air losses. Again since I don't feel that El_C has a neutral standpoint on this matter (and that's quite evident from your personal page, no offence here, you published the material yourself), I do require another moderator to look into this dispute and mostly I want to ask the lists to be under scrutiny by Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Military aviation task force.
That is simply fairness.Notes:
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{{Unblock on hold |1=blocking administrator |2=The work that I will always contest are those two tables. They are built up based on mixed internet sources bouncing different POV while in those tables Mr.user2000 drew his own personal conclusion of facts that are disputed. As such they should be either heavily simplified or should report the "disputed tag" on top, if someone from a working group like [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Military aviation task force]] says it's better to keep them there. Blocking me because I reported the disputed tag in the correct way and started the discussion is simply unfair. If [[User:El_C|El_C]] feels that my title (that being: By type = personal assumptions by Mr.user2000) on the discussion page about Mr.user2000 offended wikipedia spirit then [[User:El_C|El_C]] should also feel that writing "vnkd is back" like I was just trolling or reverting changes on my personal page should be equally treated by a block to mr.user2000. By the way, since those tables are 99% work by mr.user2000, I don't see any harassment in starting a discussion in the talk page by saying "By type = personal assumptions by Mr.user2000" Rather I see harassment against me, in his reporting me to [[User:El_C|El_C]] everytime that I touch his sacred tables in Yemeni and Syrian Air losses. Again since I don't feel that [[User:El_C|El_C]] has a neutral standpoint on this matter (and that's quite evident from your personal page, no offence here, you published the material yourself), I do require another moderator to look into this dispute and mostly I want to ask the lists to be under scrutiny by [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Military aviation task force]]. That is simply fairness. |3 = ~~~~}}
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{{unblock reviewed |1=The work that I will always contest are those two tables. They are built up based on mixed internet sources bouncing different POV while in those tables Mr.user2000 drew his own personal conclusion of facts that are disputed. As such they should be either heavily simplified or should report the "disputed tag" on top, if someone from a working group like [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Military aviation task force]] says it's better to keep them there. Blocking me because I reported the disputed tag in the correct way and started the discussion is simply unfair. If [[User:El_C|El_C]] feels that my title (that being: By type = personal assumptions by Mr.user2000) on the discussion page about Mr.user2000 offended wikipedia spirit then [[User:El_C|El_C]] should also feel that writing "vnkd is back" like I was just trolling or reverting changes on my personal page should be equally treated by a block to mr.user2000. By the way, since those tables are 99% work by mr.user2000, I don't see any harassment in starting a discussion in the talk page by saying "By type = personal assumptions by Mr.user2000" Rather I see harassment against me, in his reporting me to [[User:El_C|El_C]] everytime that I touch his sacred tables in Yemeni and Syrian Air losses. Again since I don't feel that [[User:El_C|El_C]] has a neutral standpoint on this matter (and that's quite evident from your personal page, no offence here, you published the material yourself), I do require another moderator to look into this dispute and mostly I want to ask the lists to be under scrutiny by [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Military aviation task force]]. That is simply fairness. |decline = {{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}}
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{{unblock reviewed |1=The work that I will always contest are those two tables. They are built up based on mixed internet sources bouncing different POV while in those tables Mr.user2000 drew his own personal conclusion of facts that are disputed. As such they should be either heavily simplified or should report the "disputed tag" on top, if someone from a working group like [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Military aviation task force]] says it's better to keep them there. Blocking me because I reported the disputed tag in the correct way and started the discussion is simply unfair. If [[User:El_C|El_C]] feels that my title (that being: By type = personal assumptions by Mr.user2000) on the discussion page about Mr.user2000 offended wikipedia spirit then [[User:El_C|El_C]] should also feel that writing "vnkd is back" like I was just trolling or reverting changes on my personal page should be equally treated by a block to mr.user2000. By the way, since those tables are 99% work by mr.user2000, I don't see any harassment in starting a discussion in the talk page by saying "By type = personal assumptions by Mr.user2000" Rather I see harassment against me, in his reporting me to [[User:El_C|El_C]] everytime that I touch his sacred tables in Yemeni and Syrian Air losses. Again since I don't feel that [[User:El_C|El_C]] has a neutral standpoint on this matter (and that's quite evident from your personal page, no offence here, you published the material yourself), I do require another moderator to look into this dispute and mostly I want to ask the lists to be under scrutiny by [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Military aviation task force]]. That is simply fairness. |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}