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if there are people who are interested in all the verbals that you insist on dumping all round the place about yourself - and there might be, I guess - they are more likely to look for it on your talk page than on mine! Sorry of it wasn't obvious before. |
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::::{{u|Mr.choppers}} Well I can tell you I'm not the only one who does that practise, of course, I'm going to be the scapegoat and the ones who aren't in the spotlight get off scot-free. --[[User:Vauxford|Vauxford]] ([[User talk:Vauxford#top|talk]]) 01:02, 28 May 2019 (UTC) |
::::{{u|Mr.choppers}} Well I can tell you I'm not the only one who does that practise, of course, I'm going to be the scapegoat and the ones who aren't in the spotlight get off scot-free. --[[User:Vauxford|Vauxford]] ([[User talk:Vauxford#top|talk]]) 01:02, 28 May 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::Hi VF, no, I don't mean to be part of some kind of pile-up, it's not only you. But I honestly don't think anyone has taken it as far as you and EurovisionNim. I noticed that only yesterday you went and [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Renault_Master&diff=53892042&oldid=52713770 replaced one of EurovisionNim's] photos in Dutch Wikipedia - exactly the kind of silliness that Charles01 bridles at. Just relax a bit, it's not a competition and you don't get a prize for having your photos in the most places. Best, please stick around, <span style="background:#ff0000;font-family:Times New Roman;">[[User:Mr.choppers|<span style="color:#FDEE00;">''' Mr.choppers | '''</span>]][[User talk:Mr.choppers|<span style="color:#FDEE00;">✎ </span>]]</span> 02:48, 28 May 2019 (UTC) |
:::::Hi VF, no, I don't mean to be part of some kind of pile-up, it's not only you. But I honestly don't think anyone has taken it as far as you and EurovisionNim. I noticed that only yesterday you went and [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Renault_Master&diff=53892042&oldid=52713770 replaced one of EurovisionNim's] photos in Dutch Wikipedia - exactly the kind of silliness that Charles01 bridles at. Just relax a bit, it's not a competition and you don't get a prize for having your photos in the most places. Best, please stick around, <span style="background:#ff0000;font-family:Times New Roman;">[[User:Mr.choppers|<span style="color:#FDEE00;">''' Mr.choppers | '''</span>]][[User talk:Mr.choppers|<span style="color:#FDEE00;">✎ </span>]]</span> 02:48, 28 May 2019 (UTC) |
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The way how people edit and conventions on automobile articles has changed, I don't think I have become worst, before I used to be a lot worst and reverted people edit that objected me constantly, without discussing it with them but it obviously not right and I got a 1 day block for edit warring. Now when someone disagree with my edit, I do take it to the talk page and discuss it, the problem is other users aren't playing fair, they go and do their own action before anything could be agreed on. What else could I do, I tried to improve my behaviour by discussing rather then rejecting and I still feel like I been duped. |
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"people came along people only rarely attached pictures that they themselves had taken to wiki-entries" -- That because their was barely any users who was dedicated to that subject, I presume you are talking what the environment on Wikipedia was like back in 2007-2008 and back then any pictures that weren't your scans were either taken by ancient PowerShot cameras or are super tiny for fair-use because there wasn't any pictures in the Commons that they could use. --Vauxford (talk) 16:24, 27 May 2019 (UTC) |
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Now I don't see why this should be taken to my talkpage when you brought this one up yourself and the fact that even when gave my defence in this and telling you I have been improving behavioural wise, you blatantly ignore it and try and move the entire thing somewhere like it not yours to deal with when it clearly is because nobody except you has been making these condescending comments towards what I do. I'm doing my half to try and eventually solve this discord between us, please do your part on it. --Vauxford (talk) 17:50, 27 May 2019 (UTC) |
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BMW 5 Series (E60)
I changed the image because the previous one is low quality and involves a dirty car. About the cars surrounding the main car, I could say the same about your Blue R8 V10 Plus image which is surrounded by cars. If you want to start warring again, be my guest. U1 quattro TALK 03:55, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Vauxford there was no discussion about the photo on the BMW 5 Series (E60) page. Stop lying. U1 quattro TALK 16:51, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
U1Quattro Please read the talkpage discussion again, clearly 4 users including me prefer the previous image over the one you replaced. As usual, you want to be disrupt things and inserting images that were never discussed and make things far more difficult. --Vauxford (talk) 16:57, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- Well, I don't need to go to a concensous for something as simple as an image. If I find a better one, I change the image.U1 quattro TALK 16:59, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
Hi!
Please can you explain how I have been disruptive? Thanks! :) Joel37 (talk) 20:42, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Sorry about that, I didn't see your messages....I was replacing the older models with newer photos so that the title photo is of the current model. Joel37 (talk) 20:47, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- If you wanted to edits like that, It best to discuss it on the talkpage of that article, you were going to article to article replacing them without any summary or reason. --Vauxford (talk) 20:48, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
OK, sorry about that, I was just trying to update the pages a bit :) Joel37 (talk) 20:49, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Would you mind explaining why the title picture should be left as an old model (such as Fiat Fiorino) instead of the new model? Thanks Joel37 (talk) 20:52, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Because that is what the model best known for. It what they use as the cover of the article which the user can scroll down and read about it and see the different variant and generation. --Vauxford (talk) 20:57, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
I understand for cars such as the Fiat Uno (although I think it might be subjective which the car is best known for!) but why the Fiorino, or my VW edits, for example? Thanks Joel37 (talk) 20:59, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
I see you have also removed my edits that were not simply replacing a photo - such as the edits I made to the Citroen Mehari page....why is this? Thanks! Joel37 (talk) 21:02, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- I have restored that edit, seeing that it was useful but the rest of the edits you done were unnecessary and didn't need to be changed. --Vauxford (talk) 21:10, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
So - just to clarify - what is the infobox picture supposed to be of? I was just updating them all but now I see that's not right.... Joel37 (talk) 21:45, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- I don't usually cite WP:CARPIX since there a problems with it but this explains pretty much why:
- The image selected for an article's top (lead) infobox does not need to show any particular version or generation of the vehicle, such as the latest, the last, the first, the best-selling, or any other. However, the image must be representative; low-volume, obscure/unusual, or otherwise unrepresentative variants are generally not preferred for the lead infobox image. Vehicle production date is not a factor when determining the quality of an image and its suitability to illustrate the lead infobox. Regardless of the ages of the vehicle shown, pick a clear, high-quality image according to the image quality guidelines; one that clearly shows a vehicle relevant to the article without photoflash glare or other photographic faults, against a simple and contrasting background. Such an image is always to be preferred over a lower-quality image, such as one that shows photoflash glare or a distracting background. --Vauxford (talk) 21:51, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Right! That's great, I'll try to follow those rules from now on. Thanks a lot and I look forward to working with you in the future :) Joel37 (talk) 21:54, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
May 2019
Personal opinions don't count as you instated in your reason behind the edits on Chevrolet Camaro (sixth generation) page. So please, keep them out. If you disagree. Discuss matters on the talk page otherwise, I'll take the matters to administration. U1 quattro TALK 15:21, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
May 2019
You on your recent edits on the Lamborghini Diablo page claimed that the image of a facelift Diablo roadster was on a replica. Please present a proof of that in the article's talkpage. U1 quattro TALK 03:23, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
- When you punch the number plate into the DVLA it comes up as
- "Vehicle make: DC SUPERCARS
- Date of first registration: August 2015".
- You can try it for yourself here vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk. Toasted Meter (talk) 03:50, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you Toasted Meter, I already knew the car previous was a replica which is why I replaced it. --Vauxford (talk) 11:01, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
ANI Discussion
How exactly is having a discussion of how I feel with an IP is considered name calling? Please have a look at that definition before you further make any claims of personal attacks against me. U1 quattro TALK 15:14, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- "Okay I apologise I used the wrong word, I mean name dropping." Yeah, sure. Then I was right about you. You are INDEED trying to oust me from editing.U1 quattro TALK 16:33, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- Vauxford who is being manipulative now?U1 quattro TALK 16:35, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- Plus in the last ANI discussion you posted, you brought those other two users when it was meant to showcase your grevience. This shows that you are forming an alliance to oust me. You are also accusing me of manipulation while you do so yourself.U1 quattro TALK 16:37, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Also "Currently I'm not in any edit dispute nor planning to any time soon with U1Quattro" this shows that you plan edit disputes against me. U1 quattro TALK 16:42, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Notice
Please stop your personal attacks and accusations against me. Those will be used in the current ANI discussion if you continue to do so. Also, give Wikipedia:ANI advice if you can before you start making any further accusations. U1 quattro TALK 16:53, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
refactoring talk pages
You should not put new comments above existing ones in a way that makes it look like the older comment is a reply [[1]].Slatersteven (talk) 17:51, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- Slatersteven My bad, I thought part of the comments I made would work better as a support for the proposal you made. But knowing how to position these chronologically can be very confusing. --Vauxford (talk) 17:56, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- We all make that mistake sometimes.Slatersteven (talk) 18:41, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
The Vauxford problem
I'm going to maintain my stance that this is not a personal vanity project and I'm kindly telling you to stop the accusation that it is. I replaced it during discussion because at the last min the picture on the article was a replica and I believe it shouldn't be used in the article. I admit I could of waited until the discussion was over but Eddadio seem to have intentionally avoiding my confrontation. He then suggested a picture which nobody said anything about except me which I said it wasn't a good choice due to it being overly blurry, but replaced it anyway. It seem to me that almost every comments you made on discussion over stuff like this is mostly a personal grief rather then actually contributing to the problem. --Vauxford (talk) 15:39, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- Your eye-watering arrogance is not in itself the defining issue. But where it leads to appalling behaviour which discourages collaborative and constructive ccontributions to wikipedia from many other people, your behaviour does indeed become "the problem". I am mightily bored with repeating myself ad nauseam simply because your behaviour has not improved. Indeed, since EurovisionNim quit, your own approach has become more EurovisionNIm-like / Vauxfordy than ever. Your pictures are not universally terrible, but mostly they are mediocre and you damage wikipedia by refusing to differentiate between the ones that are competent, the ones that are mediocre and the ones that are terrible. You damage wikipedia by replacing inages that are perfectly ok with your own pictures even where these are frequently significantly worse. Before you and EurovisionNim came along people only rarely attached pictures that they themselves had taken to wiki-entries, and only when they were, by most mainstream criteria, unambiguously better than the alternatives. That way, little by little, quality improved and variety was sustained. You guys changed the rules and conventions. Not in a good way. Monotonous messy backgrounds in Leamington Spa have their place, and if all your pictures were brilliant no one would mind - or maybe even much notice - a certain uniformity of approach. But they're not. So yes, that is why I object to the Vauxford Vanity Project. Is your suggestion that your behaviour is just fine and your behaviour is constructive and collaborative? Otherwise why do you insist on dumping your little outbursts of self pity when I do something with which you disagree? I freely admit, I don't understand you at all. And your behaviour just seems to get worse. Please make a special effort and improve it! Charles01 (talk) 16:12, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- The way how people edit and conventions on automobile articles has changed, I don't think I have become worst, before I used to be a lot worst and reverted people edit that objected me constantly, without discussing it with them but it obviously not right and I got a 1 day block for edit warring. Now when someone disagree with my edit, I do take it to the talk page and discuss it, the problem is other users aren't playing fair, they go and do their own action before anything could be agreed on. What else could I do, I tried to improve my behaviour by discussing rather then rejecting and I still feel like I been duped.
- "people came along people only rarely attached pictures that they themselves had taken to wiki-entries" -- That because their was barely any users who was dedicated to that subject, I presume you are talking what the environment on Wikipedia was like back in 2007-2008 and back then any pictures that weren't your scans were either taken by ancient PowerShot cameras or are super tiny for fair-use because there wasn't any pictures in the Commons that they could use. --Vauxford (talk) 16:24, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- Actually, Charles01 has a point (I am not weighing in on this entire conversation; don't exactly know what's happening) in that it was always considered bad form to "push" ones own photos. Mr.choppers | ✎ 21:55, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- Mr.choppers Well I can tell you I'm not the only one who does that practise, of course, I'm going to be the scapegoat and the ones who aren't in the spotlight get off scot-free. --Vauxford (talk) 01:02, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hi VF, no, I don't mean to be part of some kind of pile-up, it's not only you. But I honestly don't think anyone has taken it as far as you and EurovisionNim. I noticed that only yesterday you went and replaced one of EurovisionNim's photos in Dutch Wikipedia - exactly the kind of silliness that Charles01 bridles at. Just relax a bit, it's not a competition and you don't get a prize for having your photos in the most places. Best, please stick around, Mr.choppers | ✎ 02:48, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- Mr.choppers Well I can tell you I'm not the only one who does that practise, of course, I'm going to be the scapegoat and the ones who aren't in the spotlight get off scot-free. --Vauxford (talk) 01:02, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
Vauxford on Vauxford. More
The way how people edit and conventions on automobile articles has changed, I don't think I have become worst, before I used to be a lot worst and reverted people edit that objected me constantly, without discussing it with them but it obviously not right and I got a 1 day block for edit warring. Now when someone disagree with my edit, I do take it to the talk page and discuss it, the problem is other users aren't playing fair, they go and do their own action before anything could be agreed on. What else could I do, I tried to improve my behaviour by discussing rather then rejecting and I still feel like I been duped.
"people came along people only rarely attached pictures that they themselves had taken to wiki-entries" -- That because their was barely any users who was dedicated to that subject, I presume you are talking what the environment on Wikipedia was like back in 2007-2008 and back then any pictures that weren't your scans were either taken by ancient PowerShot cameras or are super tiny for fair-use because there wasn't any pictures in the Commons that they could use. --Vauxford (talk) 16:24, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
Now I don't see why this should be taken to my talkpage when you brought this one up yourself and the fact that even when gave my defence in this and telling you I have been improving behavioural wise, you blatantly ignore it and try and move the entire thing somewhere like it not yours to deal with when it clearly is because nobody except you has been making these condescending comments towards what I do. I'm doing my half to try and eventually solve this discord between us, please do your part on it. --Vauxford (talk) 17:50, 27 May 2019 (UTC)