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Hey Useight. I've left the Clarence Thomas article alone for quite a while despite the grotesque POV and unbalance of the sexual allegation section. Today I've been trying to add a single paragraph refuting Hill's testimony but user RafaelGarcia has been deleting it and deleting my citations. I'm very frustrated. I didn't take out any of his information until he kept doing it. But I'm really frustrated and he's in clear violation of Wikipedia rules about multiple reverts. Also, you can see on the talk page that many many many users have suggested cutting down the section and moving some of the information to the nomination article. But RafaelGarcia is attempting to excercise ownership and has engaged in an abusive edit war to block any refutation of the information he's added (mostly about people who never testified at the hearings). If you could help I would really appreciate it. Given his history I suggest he be banned at least from the article and maybe more generally. ([[User:Wallamoose|Wallamoose]] ([[User talk:Wallamoose|talk]]) 01:58, 7 October 2008 (UTC)) |
Hey Useight. I've left the Clarence Thomas article alone for quite a while despite the grotesque POV and unbalance of the sexual allegation section. Today I've been trying to add a single paragraph refuting Hill's testimony but user RafaelGarcia has been deleting it and deleting my citations. I'm very frustrated. I didn't take out any of his information until he kept doing it. But I'm really frustrated and he's in clear violation of Wikipedia rules about multiple reverts. Also, you can see on the talk page that many many many users have suggested cutting down the section and moving some of the information to the nomination article. But RafaelGarcia is attempting to excercise ownership and has engaged in an abusive edit war to block any refutation of the information he's added (mostly about people who never testified at the hearings). If you could help I would really appreciate it. Given his history I suggest he be banned at least from the article and maybe more generally. ([[User:Wallamoose|Wallamoose]] ([[User talk:Wallamoose|talk]]) 01:58, 7 October 2008 (UTC)) |
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:I have deleted nothing; I simply moved all the info so that the info against the accusers was all together. Also, Wallamoose doesn't know how to cite properly. He cites to a huge index of tons of testimony instead of citing to individual testimony PDFs. In addition, he's making NPOV edits trying to tell readers the significance of things; that is unsupported by the text. Also, he's made statements unsupported by citations.[[User:RafaelRGarcia|RafaelRGarcia]] ([[User talk:RafaelRGarcia|talk]]) 01:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC) |
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Wallamoose is also deleting citations for no reason; documents that are there or are clearly cited are being replaced with fact tags wantonly.[[User:RafaelRGarcia|RafaelRGarcia]] ([[User talk:RafaelRGarcia|talk]]) 01:52, 7 October 2008 (UTC) |
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Overwork a new article
Hello useight, I just wrote a new article, Johann Friedrich Adolf von der Marwitz. As I am no native speaker, I am searching for someone who has a look at it and fixes grammar errors or style problems. Would you mind doing that? It still is a rather short article. If not, where may I ask? Thank you! FDG -- Friedrichdergrosse (talk) 00:11, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
- Thank you very much for overworking my article. I came across you reading the wikipedia help. Somewhere it was recommended to simply ask frequent editors. There also was a list of currently frequent editors, and I found you on top of it. :-) -- Friedrichdergrosse (talk) 01:18, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
An IP
[1] I do not believe it should have been unblocked in the first place, and now it's back to vandalizing again. Enigma message 00:16, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
MsTopeka
I don't mind if you archive your talk page, it's your right, but refusing even to acknowledge my question is rude. Are you still her mentor, or not? Corvus cornixtalk 06:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
- OK, thanks for replying. Corvus cornixtalk 19:56, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Yo
Yo whats up. Well i managed to get blocked on Bulbapedia after a admin vandalized my talk page and i wrote F**K you on every person involved with this on their talk page.
You know some people might think i'm at fault here but if you were there you'd see that with such a small interwoven admin group they protect eachother and ignore what the others do just as much as any group on here would. Its a shame i can contact Wikimedia and have Bulbapedia's license pulled. Yami (talk) 04:51, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
Yeah and they tell you to go to the Forums if you have a problem with the admins, but the forums are ran by the same admins.
Plus I'm sure if you know a thing about how Forums generally are, a gathering of the Internets problem children to gang up on each other and so on. I don't think i have ever been on a forum that didn't result in something said being flamed trolled and all that other forum stuff.
Wiki Media needs to keep a tighter leash on the sites that use its software and the wiki/pedia name. Yami (talk) 22:42, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
FWIW
At the time of my RFA I would only have scored 4 out of 15. I would still only score 5... – iridescent 19:20, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- Watchlist stalker here. My score is a 2. Both related to XfDs. My RFA was only last January. There is no way in hell I'd pass RFA today if that list was the "required" experience. Where are the questions about content contributions? GA? FA? DYK? (not that I have those either) Keeper ǀ 76 19:23, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- If those questions were specifically aimed at R2, Useight probably already knows he got Michael Jackson to FA so doesn't need to ask. – iridescent 19:53, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think I have 11 out of 15. Enigma message 19:58, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- Which, I suppose, is evidence as to why you didn't pass RFA? I don't mean that of course, I was a fervent supporter of yours....Keeper ǀ 76 20:06, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I didn't ask the questions specifically for RFA, I'm trying to do "editor coaching" instead of "admin coaching", so I'm (attempting) to take a somewhat different angle. The source of the questions is actually at User:Bibliomaniac15/Admin_coaching_plans#Checklist, only I don't call it a checklist, but Iridescent is correct, I removed the questions regarding GA, FA, stubs, WikiProjects, and RFA voting because I knew he already does those. No coaching should be cookie cutter, so I tailored it to R2. Just as a side note, I have 13 of those 15. Useight (talk) 21:07, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- Which, I suppose, is evidence as to why you didn't pass RFA? I don't mean that of course, I was a fervent supporter of yours....Keeper ǀ 76 20:06, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think I have 11 out of 15. Enigma message 19:58, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
- If those questions were specifically aimed at R2, Useight probably already knows he got Michael Jackson to FA so doesn't need to ask. – iridescent 19:53, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Still having issues on the Cincinnati article
I already addressed it all and Dayewalker is still arguing. I can't tell if this is getting too heated, but this is getting no where.
He told me i was being uncivil and told me to respect the consensus of the page when i don't see where there is a consensus to speak of.
I think our personal views are getting in the way here, mine with my pride as being born and raised there and using the word "Please?" in that manner.
His views of "Quite frankly I doubt such a thing could exist in isolation and stay a quirk of a single city, but if you find an example, I'd love to see it. Dayewalker (talk) 05:49, 6 September 2008 (UTC)"
Plus his overall argumentative attitude in this, i mean i might have a combative personality but he seems to just be arguing for the sakes of arguing.
The word came from the German heritage factor of the city. Many places have large German influences and heritage, but the coinage of this word to be used in the fashion has thus far not been found to be mentioned in any other article accept those dealing with Cincinnati.
This would indicate that it is so isolated that it would be unique enough to Cincinnati to gain mention of being used there but not other places. If no site can be found that says its used in another place then it must be unique enough to be awarded to Cincinnati or at least those affiliated with the city and area.
People born in Cincinnati Say "please?" to ask someone to repeat something just like a person in Milwaukee would say "Eh" like the Canadian "Heh" at the end of a sentence to add emphasis but the Milwaukee article isn't going say that until someone adds it. http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Yooper-dialect
There are tons of examples of similar dialects.
"Beg Pardon" instead of "Bed you Pardon" or "I beg your pardon" that indicates you didn't understand what was just said. I was watching the Venture Brothers the other night and Hank the blond said "Beg Pardon" because he didn't understand something (he isn't that bright)
"Pardon?," "Sorry?" or even "I'm Sorry?" to also indicate you don't understand.
"Excuse me?" used in the same manner as well when normally it's a phase use to ask for passage or apologies. Same with "Cuse me?" and other variations.
the shortened version of "What" with "Wha?"
All of these are words and phrases that mean the same thing.
I'm sorry for blogging your talk page with this, but he's still arguing on things i already explained multiple times. Yami (talk) 23:57, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
And it looks like Atom from the breast article can't resist in getting in on the action http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Please&diff=236908545&oldid=235933602
The word Comes from Bitte which can translate into please, but that doesn't mean its used in the places he said and i can't find anything on it. So far the use of "Please?" has only been mentioned on Cincinnati related articles on the internet.
And given the past with Atom i wonder why or how he even came to the article for Please. Yami (talk) 01:20, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
Well it was removed this time by Dreadstar, but i think it was removed because that article is meant for a listing of please related articles and not definitions.
I'm still having trouble with the article, and they're claiming there is a consensus agaisnt me? I admit i don't know the full definition of consensus but from what i know is from my past experience with it is you can't claim it with just two people. Yami (talk) 00:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
God what is with these people on the cincinnati article. I proved that lease? was unique to cincinnati and i have multiple sources and the guy who removed Please? from thje article the first time is still complaining about notability. Yami (talk) 06:59, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Admin Coaching
Hi, I saw your name at WP:ADCO, and because Gears of War has retired, would you be willing to admin coach me? Thanks for the consideration.--LAAFansign review 21:26, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
- Cool. By the way, please don't think I only do things like hand out barnstars; I do do other work, like writing articles or reverting vandalism.--LAAFansign review 22:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
- Useight will make a fine coach/guide for you. He's the epitome of sensible. Wisdom89 (T / C) 23:02, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Why thank you, Wisdom, for the kind remarks. Useight (talk) 03:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- I accept, with one question; will it be an active coaching. I eventually came up with a problem with User:Prodego because of the less "hands on" approach. But, if you will not be like by short AC, I accept.--LAAFansign review 03:33, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Why thank you, Wisdom, for the kind remarks. Useight (talk) 03:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Cool. By the way, please don't think I only do things like hand out barnstars; I do do other work, like writing articles or reverting vandalism.--LAAFansign review 22:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Twin Peaks
It is clearly stated in WP:V that every article in wikipedia must be held up to rugged standards of verification. While this article describing Twin Peaks is interesting, there aren't any sources! So how is it possible to believe it? I think it would do more harm than good to anyone reading it. If you would like to add a source, go ahead. But as it stands now, it doesn't meet wikipedia's quality standards. I'm sorry :( It's ok though, we all make mistakes. I'll make sure to save you the time and get rid of it for you! Just doing my part! CerburusStyx (talk) 06:19, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
Clarence Thomas
Please block user Wallamoose from editing the Clarence Thomas article; he keeps trying to nuke a section on Thomas's sexual misconduct. Please also sockpuppet check him, as he's a new account only making partisan edits.RafaelRGarcia (talk) 18:11, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
- Please read the discussion page of the Clarence Thomas article and see that I have provided numerous sources proving the information that is contained in the article regarding Angela Wright and Sukari Hardnett is false. Here's another article clarifying that no one but Hill ever testified before the committee that they were sexually harassed. http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/921012/archive_018473_10.htm
- So you've blocked me and allowed false statements to be included in an article about a Supreme Court Justice of the United States. I don't know how to go about correcting these falsehoods, so if you could advise me that would be great. In my humble opinion RafaelRGarcia should be banned from editing the article as he continues to knowingly edit the article so that false information is presented.(Wallamoose (talk) 18:28, 14 September 2008 (UTC))
- Additionally, RafaelRGarcia stated in the discussion section that "Wright is completely on topic for the section on Thomas being such a perv." I don't think someone with this viewpoint or approach has any role in editing the article about Clarence Thomas. Please note there is no section about Justice Thomas being a perv, and this is a grossly inappropriate comment.(Wallamoose (talk) 18:36, 14 September 2008 (UTC))
- RafaelRGarcia has continued to harass me going to other administrators to ask that I be banned and investigated. Am I supposed to engage in a similar campaign notifying administrators of his deletions of content I posted on the article's talk page, of his description of Clarence Thomas on the article's talk page as a "Perv", of his using opinion articles as sources, of his maintaining fake sourcing to advance his biased agenda? Is this how Wikipedia works? Please advise. I am happy to provide evidence and links for all my allegations if necessary. Thanks. (Wallamoose (talk) 16:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC))
- My reply here
- RafaelRGarcia has continued to harass me going to other administrators to ask that I be banned and investigated. Am I supposed to engage in a similar campaign notifying administrators of his deletions of content I posted on the article's talk page, of his description of Clarence Thomas on the article's talk page as a "Perv", of his using opinion articles as sources, of his maintaining fake sourcing to advance his biased agenda? Is this how Wikipedia works? Please advise. I am happy to provide evidence and links for all my allegations if necessary. Thanks. (Wallamoose (talk) 16:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC))
Help desk question
Yes, my user name is being usurpated, and I want to prevent this usurpation. But, as I made a Global account, I am not sure if the problem still exist? Or I have prevent usurpation by making this global account? --Geologicharka (talk) 11:27, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
Re:
You may enter until March 2009 (most likely). iMatthew (talk) 20:35, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
User name
Thanks. :-) --Geologicharka (talk) 20:58, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, Useight
Thank you for supporting my RfA nomination, Useight. I appreciate the confidence. Cbl62 (talk) 05:58, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
In case you didn't see it there....
In a post on "Realist2"'s page was the following: Would you please stop with the personal attacks. I have zero problem with conservative's. Some of my closest associates on wikipedia are conservative and I have not once uttered a bigoted comment their way. You should really review my edits to the Obama talk page (archives now), you will see that I am a neutral editor. The fact that I show the world my biases openly on my user page is a good thing, it makes me more accountable for my actions. I do not however expect to be called a bigot, to be accused of making personal attacks, to be accused of editorial bias, or to have an arbitration set on me. Also, please do not come over here (probably from conservapedia) and lampoon our community as leftist the minute you arrive. — Realist2 04:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- I've never heard of conservapedia, I thought "your" (sic) community was supposed to be all of us, and will allow wiki's reputation to talk for me. Further, when one posts his positions in the manner in which you do, it is the farthest thing from bias awareness, it is provocation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. America (talk • contribs) 04:21, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- It's quite clear that all the comments I make on my user page, about politics or not, should be taken with a pinch of salt. They are a little tongue in cheek certainly, my whole user page is tongue in cheek. It's rarely serious. — Realist2 04:28, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- You then recorded,
- "Please refrain from using "(sic)" in that manner as it is obvious that you are insinuating a personal attack. Useight (talk) 05:19, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- You then recorded,
- Please note, therefore, that, "Had you simply taken the time to read the entry unprejudicially, you would have seen that I did not. The point, let me spell it out for you, is that wiki poses itself as if it is for "all" people, but "Realist2" betrayed that when he said, "...our..." community. I.e., he tipped his hand and, may I infer quite plainly from the interjection, yours. ~Doc —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. America (talk • contribs) 21:41, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
- Please note, therefore, that, "Had you simply taken the time to read the entry unprejudicially, you would have seen that I did not. The point, let me spell it out for you, is that wiki poses itself as if it is for "all" people, but "Realist2" betrayed that when he said, "...our..." community. I.e., he tipped his hand and, may I infer quite plainly from the interjection, yours. ~Doc —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. America (talk • contribs) 21:41, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Self-referencialism.
What is sauce for the goose is most certainly sauce for the gander. You were absolutely wrong in your understanding of my use as "sic" in that context. The point was not a peronal attack at all, but the revealing of a Freudian slip. Not only did you miss that--why I knew I needed to spell it out for you--but you are the one that assumed omniscience by saying it was an "obvious...insinuation".
You are no harder than other nails, so do not accuse someone else of something you just did yourself, and errantly to boot.
~Doc —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. America (talk • contribs) 00:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
Surprise!
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The Working Man's Barnstar | |
I award Useight the WMB for all the grunt work that he does on WP:CHU. Much appreciated by us 'crats. =Nichalp «Talk»= 05:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC) |
- My reply here
Hi Useight. I must say I was a bit disappointed by your comment here. While I opposed (IIRC) your RfB, you are someone who I considered as having pretty good judgement, and who would, one day, make a pretty good crat. To have you come out and oppose just because, without any alternatives proposed or issues raised, was not something I expected from you.
I understand if this is the opinion you wish to voice, much as it is not something I expected coming from you, of all people.
Incidentally, a few people have replied asking if you could expand on why you dislike adminbots. You're under no obligation to answer, but I would be interested to see a response, if you decide to deliver one.
Otherwise, best regards,
Giggy (talk) 09:07, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
ultimate battle
Please check out on the ultimate talk page please! If you don't get what I'm talking about it's the one Neil ceigera made! With the on about how abe lincon kills batman with a gun? Please check it out!--Spittlespat (talk) 01:51, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
Also is the song good is it heavy metla, a cowboy song, a regular rock song, or what? Also have you read series of unfortunate events?--Spittlespat (talk) 02:07, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
You don't have to put the reply here... Anyway you seen the movie right? Have you read a book, like Harry Potter?--Spittlespat (talk) 02:11, 27 September 2008 (UTC) Do you think I deserve a barnstar yet?--Spittlespat (talk) 02:11, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
In my opinion it's funny but's that's not the main reason I like it, I like the adventure and the stuff like that. It's really sad though.--Spittlespat (talk) 02:17, 27 September 2008 (UTC) wow! You thought my edits were good? Thanks! Also how do you change your signature? I have the boringest!--Spittlespat (talk) 02:23, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
Your next RfB
And you can rest assured that you'll have my support (again) in case you ever decide to go for cratship in the future :) Seriously, I never bought the whole "must be an admin for one year" criteria. Clue anyone? Wisdom89 (T / C) 20:20, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
adoption
Thank you for agreeing to be a mentor last month. I have thought hard about making the politician's articles more neutral but I think it is too big a task especially for the politician's who are running for re-election. I thought about it so hard that I stopped editing to ponder. The editorial task is not too hard but there will always be 2-3 people who are violently opposed to it. 2-3 people in a district of several hundred thousand is not much but, as you know, 2-3 editors fighting you in Wikipedia is very tiring. Maybe after the election. Chergles (talk) 20:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
BLP violation?
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heather_Locklear&diff=242000241&oldid=241925611
How should one approach this? I reverted it. Would you issue a warning or just let it go? The references say nothing about cocaine. Chergles (talk) 15:46, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
User Page
Sorry, I thought you meant talk page! I saw it and sent a message off! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bassbonerocks (talk • contribs) 23:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
re:My userpage
Sure thing. I had just logged on and spotted an IP edit to your userpage on the top of my watchlist. I checked it out and sure enough it was vandalism. See you around, Artichoker[talk] 23:45, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
sig
NEw sig--Spittlespat! ǀ T ♦ C ♦ S 00:58, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
Article Egypt
Can you please protect the article Egypt form being edited using IPs for few weeks. « PuTTYSchOOL 05:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Two-face Jackie
Thank you. I fully understand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Two-face Jackie (talk • contribs) 22:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
IP
take a look Enigma message 00:46, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
question on edits
oh kind sir,
how would one find out how many edits one has done? (apart from counting them individualy) Rdunn (talk) 08:51, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
Thank youRdunn (talk) 12:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
userpage
Ok I made it more organized!(Have you seen WALL-E?)--Spittlespat! ǀ T ♦ C ♦ S 00:24, 4 October 2008 (UTC) Also can you rate my new motto?--Spittlespat! ǀ T ♦ C ♦ S 00:27, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
Can you rate my motto, like put a comment on my motto so It can show up for the motto of the day?--Spittlespat! ǀ T ♦ C ♦ S 15:31, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
Pokemon unmerge proposal
Hello, this message is being sent to inform you that a proposal to un-merge all Pokemon articles has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pokemon#Pokemon and their rightful place. As a member of WikiProject Pokemon, your input would be much appreciated. GlassCobra 22:49, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Pokémon moves
Hey, I posted this on Jéské Couriano's talk page, but he hasn't responded yet. He recently moved all of the Pokémon games to include their respective remakes. This goes against already established consensus (see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pokémon#Moving Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire to Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald), so I was wondering if you could delete the redirects on the original titles, and then move the articles back. For example: if you could delete Pokémon Red and Blue, then move Pokémon Red, Blue, and Yellow to Pokémon Red and Blue; and continue the process with Gold and Silver, and Ruby and Sapphire. Thanks, Artichoker[talk] 22:06, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- Never mind, it was resolved. Thanks, Artichoker[talk] 01:15, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here
Hey Useight, this is IMatthew (talk · contribs), co-coordinator of the WikiCup; just informing you of the Featured List contest, starting this coming Friday. You may want to check it out; it will keep you busy for the time being before the WikiCup starts around January. Thanks for listening! iMatthew (talk) 22:01, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Clarence Thomas
Hey Useight. I've left the Clarence Thomas article alone for quite a while despite the grotesque POV and unbalance of the sexual allegation section. Today I've been trying to add a single paragraph refuting Hill's testimony but user RafaelGarcia has been deleting it and deleting my citations. I'm very frustrated. I didn't take out any of his information until he kept doing it. But I'm really frustrated and he's in clear violation of Wikipedia rules about multiple reverts. Also, you can see on the talk page that many many many users have suggested cutting down the section and moving some of the information to the nomination article. But RafaelGarcia is attempting to excercise ownership and has engaged in an abusive edit war to block any refutation of the information he's added (mostly about people who never testified at the hearings). If you could help I would really appreciate it. Given his history I suggest he be banned at least from the article and maybe more generally. (Wallamoose (talk) 01:58, 7 October 2008 (UTC))
- I have deleted nothing; I simply moved all the info so that the info against the accusers was all together. Also, Wallamoose doesn't know how to cite properly. He cites to a huge index of tons of testimony instead of citing to individual testimony PDFs. In addition, he's making NPOV edits trying to tell readers the significance of things; that is unsupported by the text. Also, he's made statements unsupported by citations.RafaelRGarcia (talk) 01:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Wallamoose is also deleting citations for no reason; documents that are there or are clearly cited are being replaced with fact tags wantonly.RafaelRGarcia (talk) 01:52, 7 October 2008 (UTC)