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Just wondering
I've been watching you off and on for the last year or so and I just can't take it any more, I have to ask... Why the HELL are you not an admin? I know that someone must have approached you about it by now. Even though I am one, I have a generally low opinion of administrators, so I very, very, very rarely offer to nominate anyone (My total right now is three...ever), but I would in your case if you were interested. You demonstrate a strong knowledge of what you do, you are civil and level headed and (most importantly) you generally stay out of bureaucratic nonsense and politics. the project can only benefit from cutting out the damn middle man and giving the WP:AIV admins a break, you more than know what you are doing. Trusilver 08:50, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Just want to say, I completely agree with that. I won't offer a co-nom, because I probably wouldn't help your cause. In fact, I'd end up failing it for you. But if you want to be an admin, I'd strongly suggest you take that offer, Lord Spongefrog, (I am Czar of all Russias!) 10:54, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks to both of you for your votes of confidence. Truthfully, that means more to me than the bit. I will say that my thoughts haven't changed much since I posted here. That was four months ago and I've advanced my abilities since, but I would not be comfortable saying I am ready. I don't know if my artcle creation, XfD activities or NPP efforts will ever satisfy the community's sense of nominal ability. I do hover around the noticeboards and offer help where I think I can be of use, and I abhor leaving an article in some state of disarray when I'm addressing issues on recent changes. So I'm learning by default, one might say :) I will take stock of my situation in March and if I feel that I have something to bring to the table I will be in touch. Hopefully I will not have alienated either of you in the interim....lol If y'all ever have any advice, or see me taking an incorrect course, please let me know. Thanks again Tiderolls 14:43, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Well, that sounds very reasonable. I'll be watching Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Tide rolls, Lord Spongefrog, (I am Czar of all Russias!) 21:31, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- What about take a break from your vandal fighting and start improving articles like stubs, or start class articles so you can get more supports in your Requests for Adminship, as that is what admins do. They also protect pages, delete pages, block users, and edit the MediaWiki pages. They sometimes revert vandalism but not all the time. I am the Czar of all the Californias! December21st2012Freak Talk to me at ≈ 21:38, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Well, that sounds very reasonable. I'll be watching Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Tide rolls, Lord Spongefrog, (I am Czar of all Russias!) 21:31, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks to both of you for your votes of confidence. Truthfully, that means more to me than the bit. I will say that my thoughts haven't changed much since I posted here. That was four months ago and I've advanced my abilities since, but I would not be comfortable saying I am ready. I don't know if my artcle creation, XfD activities or NPP efforts will ever satisfy the community's sense of nominal ability. I do hover around the noticeboards and offer help where I think I can be of use, and I abhor leaving an article in some state of disarray when I'm addressing issues on recent changes. So I'm learning by default, one might say :) I will take stock of my situation in March and if I feel that I have something to bring to the table I will be in touch. Hopefully I will not have alienated either of you in the interim....lol If y'all ever have any advice, or see me taking an incorrect course, please let me know. Thanks again Tiderolls 14:43, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the suggestion. If adminship were my goal I would definitely follow your advice. I'm not an article creator and I'm not gonna try to fool anyone into thinking that I am. Certainly, I feel I have something to offer in addition to reversing vandalism, but to let admniship guide my efforts would somehow not seem right. That's why I'm waiting until March to really make any decision. By March I will be "active" for a year and it seems a good point to evaluate my accomplishments and the community's assesment thereof. I appreciate the advice and hope that you keep it coming. See ya 'round Tiderolls 22:47, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- I've come into contact with you quite a bit now. And you seem to be a very likeable person (You like Alabama, how can I not like you?) so im tempted to make my first RFA nom be yours. You would be a specific admin. One who aims at stoping vandalism. (of short, a J.delanoy type of admin.) If you were to ever pass an RFA, you would'nt have to just revert vandalism, you could then block those who do it! So why not now?--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 01:54, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the suggestion. If adminship were my goal I would definitely follow your advice. I'm not an article creator and I'm not gonna try to fool anyone into thinking that I am. Certainly, I feel I have something to offer in addition to reversing vandalism, but to let admniship guide my efforts would somehow not seem right. That's why I'm waiting until March to really make any decision. By March I will be "active" for a year and it seems a good point to evaluate my accomplishments and the community's assesment thereof. I appreciate the advice and hope that you keep it coming. See ya 'round Tiderolls 22:47, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- I actually considered an AIV-only adminship nom. I discarded the idea fairly quickly, deeming it to be unwieldy in practice and anticipated the community would not be receptive on many grounds. It's better to wait. After an active year I should either be ready or be prepared to accept that adminship is not for me. At present I don't need the extra tools to accomplish the tasks I'm setting for myself. Yes, it would be great to be able to block vandals instead of reporting them. I don't really have any complaints about how my reports are being handled, though. I appreciate your appraisal and your opinion, but I'm gonna wait. See ya 'round Tiderolls 03:15, 4 January 2010 (UTC) of course I'm a likeable person, just ask the guy that started the next thread :)
- As much as I would like to see you with the mop, I respect the hell out of your decision. I think the best admin candidates are the one that don't particularly want the tools. Even without them, you are a huge asset to the project. Keep doing what you are doing :) Trusilver 05:52, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Opinion
you need to get a life. seriously.
- Because nobody is a better expert on getting a life than someone who vandalizes Wikipedia for fun :). Incidentally, TR, thank you for reverting the vandalism on my daughter's userpage. She hasn't logged in for more than a year, but I like to keep it looking nice all the same. Trusilver 21:18, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- I also find it amusing that a Wikipedia vandal tells an active positive contributor that they need to "get a life." If we're already the fifth or sixth most popular website on earth, and the first go-to place on the internet for information for an astonishing majority of users surveyed, those who work on keeping the place vandalism-free have "a life" indeed, and are performing an important service. Not only that but they deserve praise. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 23:02, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- You may wish to read User:Mindmatrix#Schadenfreude, for a similar (and amusing) example, complete with citations. --kelapstick (talk) 16:30, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you...
... for reverting the nastiness on my Talk page. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:54, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Always glad to help. Thanks for letting me know you didn't mind me butting in. See ya 'round Tiderolls 22:48, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Adding in my thanks as well. I somehow overlooked the vandalism on my talk page from the IP that I've twice sought to block. Thanks for the assist!—DMCer™ 02:47, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
- You're welcome, of course. Please let me know if I'm interfering, though. I know that editors are capable of maintaining their pages, I only step in because I don't know how often folks log in. See ya 'round Tiderolls 11:46, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
What's the point in sending messages to me?
What's the point in sending messages to me? Apparently I am sharing an IP and someone else changed the page, yet the message goes to the IP address. What's the point of sending messages to the shared IP address? That's just asinine.
Don't do it anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.88.170.40 (talk) 17:25, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
- That message wasn't sent to you, it was sent to 64.88.170.40. The point was to stop vandalism from that IP address, which apparently worked. I'll take this opportunity to disagree with your assesment and encourage you to register an account so you will only see those messages that are sent to you. Since I never sent you a message there is no danger that I could repeat the act. Thanks for your message Tiderolls 18:35, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Henry Clay Vandalism
This is really getting atrocious. Three different ones in the last two days. I'm appalled. I'm pretty new to this editing stuff, so other than fixing the occasional vandalism as I scanned articles, before and after my username, I didn't really notice it.
The thing that really surprises me, though, is how benign all of it is. No profanity or inappropriate language. The first one was a virtually unnoticeable heart and name, the next a not very potent insult. Oh well. Thanks for the work you've already done.
Are there measures we can take against it? Like blocking 68.193.14.134? Is that our responsibility, or do admins take care of it? In.Lumine.Tuo.Videbimus.Lumen 02:06, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
- I apologize for my late reply; I had already logged off when you messaged me. Yes, most vandalism is puerile and of little actual consequence. Because Wikipedia's aim is to operate on an assumption of good faith, there is a process for warning users for possible vandalism before blocking. If you are interested you can go to Wikipedia:Vandalism and get more detail. In future, if you have the inclination, you can leave warnings on the user's talk page regarding vandalism you revert. Please be careful to follow the order set out here, because the administrators may decline to block an editor that has been inadequately or inappropriately warned. Also, you want to be very sure about the vandalism and issuing warnings so that you do not fall afoul of the policy on edit warring. Please be aware of this essay. It would be rare that a regular editor would vandalize the encyclopedia, but we all make mistakes and one would not want to aggresively approach an editor that had unintentionally marred an article. To report a user for persistant vandalism the report is made at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. The user must be adequately warned and the vandalism must be recent. If you need clarification or further explanation, please let me know. I apologize if I've covered material you already know, I was only attempting to be thorough. Thanks for coming here to discuss your concerns and I hope to see you around more. Regards Tiderolls 06:25, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, great. I didn't really know anything of the anti-vandalism stuff, so thanks. Of course, I agree completely with the stuff about edit wars, good faith, and so forth. Indeed, I probably wouldn't be for blocking our "♥ amanda" guy, because he's only done it the one time and did so in one of the least conspicuous places he could find. But our "and noob" friend I think probably would merit some kind of action, at least if he does it again. I hope I didn't come off as too gung ho about this whole blocking stuff; we should only do it when completely necessary. I'm more interested in contributing to the sight and making the info more presentable than dealing with vandalism. But when I see it, I'm now equipped to deal with it. Thanks, your help is much appreciated. In.Lumine.Tuo.Videbimus.Lumen 21:22, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Question
i thought anyone could edit wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.228.36.195 (talk) 00:20, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
WCLX.. again
Hey Tide, sorry to bother you with this nonsense all over again, but here goes... could you please take a look at this diff, specifically the edit summaries on both "sides". While it would appear to that the IP is re-adding valid content, I have to admit that it is unsourced. OTOH Petertripp is reverting it with the reasoning that it's "his station" and he can do what he wants with the article. I'm just not sure what to do regarding this specific COI, so yeah, another pair of eyes would be great :) cheers, SMC (talk) 06:55, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I've been following the back and forth and have not entered the fray because I see only less than optimum outcomes ahead. The "outsiders" seem determined to take their shots at their ex-employer and the owner seems determined for the content to be excluded. While the COI concerns are valid, I think the sniping of the ex-employees should be regulated by what they can verify. Full page protection seems a bit drastic for a 6K watt radio station article, and I believe the snipers would just auto-confirm and resume the "crusade" in any event. I will be contacting an editor who has been very helpful in my past issues with content. My intervention will not be immediate as I will busy until late Friday my time, so if you have alternate ideas feel free to proceed. I would advise that you tread carefully, though, so you are not drawn into a 3RR web. Thanks for all your help in keeping an eye on the matter, see ya 'round Tiderolls 11:42, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
- Alright, I'll try not to get involved - I think I'm finally starting to see exactly what they're fighting over and why (a newspaper's blog and this Google cached forum thread provide a very detailed insight). Regarding the removed content, I've finally had a chance to do a determined search for notability and found a newspaper reference to back up some of the ten-year history. That's as much as I'm prepared to change myself, since it can be referenced. Let me emphasise that there's no rush for either of us to act on this.. I get the feeling the conflict has gone on for quite some time before it ever hit the 'pedia! Thanks again for your help Tide, and have a good one. SMC (talk) 12:19, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
- I definitely concur on your point that there is no rush. Good work on locating the sources, btw. That should really spice up the soup. It also alters my view of the dispute. When I contact the editor I mentioned above I will give them the complete background. Don't misunderstand me, if you see an opportunity to approach the article's content, dive in. I was just advising caution as it could become very problematical. Off to work now Tiderolls 13:00, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Halftime...
...so far, so good! Drmies (talk) 03:29, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- Man, that was close--in the third quarter, I thought I had jinxed it by leaving you the message above. Phew! Yes, 13--for those who know how to count, haha! Hey, I got a beer and some bourbon here to toast (with) you. Roll Tide! Take it easy, cause it can only go downhill from here, Drmies (talk) 05:38, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Cheers, professor. As a long time fan I know there will highs and lows. The constant is the pride and tradition that is the University of Alabama. I wear the crimson and white win, lose or draw. We are the Crimson Tide...that will never change. Roll Tide Tiderolls 05:43, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- Right on. I'm going to have to retire the lucky Alabama shirt I'm wearing--it's unbeaten. One day you, me, User:Alarob, and User:Altairisfar will all sit down and I'm buying beers. You know, I promised myself I would stay in school until we got another championship, but I had to graduate a couple of years ago and get a job... Alright, WP is not a social networking site. Let's go back to improving the project--tomorrow. Drmies (talk) 05:47, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Vandal
Just to let you know 41.178.21.82 has vandalised Genetically Modified Foods past their final warning. En-AU Speaker (T) (C) (E) 10:41, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for your message. They have been reported to the AIV board and an admin will handle it from there. See ya 'round Tiderolls 10:43, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Blocked by Materialscientist. En-AU Speaker (T) (C) (E) 10:45, 9 January 2010 (UTC)