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::::: The move ''was'' undiscussed. Where did you consult with anyone before moving it? Also, I filed it under [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Technical_requests&diff=632314274&oldid=632308157 'Requests to revert undiscussed moves'], specifically saying that it was done in a 'controversial area'. [[Special:Contributions/213.7.147.34|213.7.147.34]] ([[User talk:213.7.147.34|talk]]) 18:32, 4 November 2014 (UTC) |
::::: The move ''was'' undiscussed. Where did you consult with anyone before moving it? Also, I filed it under [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Technical_requests&diff=632314274&oldid=632308157 'Requests to revert undiscussed moves'], specifically saying that it was done in a 'controversial area'. [[Special:Contributions/213.7.147.34|213.7.147.34]] ([[User talk:213.7.147.34|talk]]) 18:32, 4 November 2014 (UTC) |
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And with emotions totally taken over from reason, I bale out. Happy edit warring and POV-pushing. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner</span>]] [[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 18:44, 4 November 2014 (UTC) |
And with emotions totally taken over from reason, I bale out. Happy edit warring and POV-pushing. Looks like the UN-Peacekeepers get another stint of 50 years there. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner</span>]] [[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 18:44, 4 November 2014 (UTC) |
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Bad faith
Copied from another post: We have WP:Before as a guideline, ignored by you on dozens of such articles. It is not rocket science to google each of these names. Major American Newspapers, otherwise known as WP:RS are doing coverage of each contestant. There is also a ton of gossip chatter. To say there is nothing but Facebook is a misrepresentation of the facts. The worldwide pageant is nothing but a publicity event centered around these contestants. For that one week, they are celebrities. For a different period of time, each of them is a national celebrity in their homeland winning the national pageant. What completely irks me is I have to spend hours of my time rescuing each of these articles separately, getting deep into a subject I care little about, because you have spread this damage around in little pieces, instead of taking this subject as a whole and making one reasonable discussion that I probably would have missed. Now I have to search, copy, paste. This could have been avoided with a little effort on your part but apparently removing content (justified or not) from wikipedia is more important to you. That is bad faith. Wikipedia does not prosper with editors behaving like this. Trackinfo (talk) 18:42, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not an advertising medium. Wikipedia is also wider than the USA. That you don't agree, okay, but stop assuming bad faith. Most of them have a very temporarily fame and are just notable for one event. The Banner talk 21:12, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
- I got a "notification" of mention thingie but don't see my name here. Anyhow, what Trackinfo is saying explains why he is pissed. It is not a surprise. Winning a nation's primary beauty pageant is simply a big deal in current world culture. Far more than being a footie player who appears in a few games in 1972 for Manchester United or won a bronze medal at the 1904 Olympics, i.e., the thousands and thousands of "one event" instances which are never thought to fall under that policy.--Milowent • hasspoken 14:41, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Not in my opinion. It is just a preliminary round, not a separate event. The Banner talk 15:46, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
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- I love your 100% negative approach and your battleground mentality. Unfortunately, that mentality and your continued personal attacks are not the way to bring Wikipedia forward. Just prove the notabilty of the ladies with independent reliable sources, that is the only thing I care about. I don't care at all about your hurt feelings, I care about the reliability of Wikipedia. I am not playing games, as you do. And please, don't make a joke about yourself by following me around to shout NO in each and every AfD from my hand. The Banner talk 20:55, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DATE (command)
Hello,
I hope I am not bothering you but Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DATE (command) badly needs more input from the community. It has been relisted twice before and in spite of me having tried to publicize it before, is still at the risk of being closed without a consensus. The reason that I am calling you is that last time, I've been told to invite people that are more connected to the matter. I guess as a participant of Articles for deletion/Date (Unix), you clearly fit the bill.
Subject of the nomination is: "Wikipedia is not a manual and this article is written exactly like a man page."
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
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Connswater
Could you not have worked with me over a few days to let me develop the page before nominating it for deletion then speedy deletion? Just need a bit of co-operation and time to develop. Fire me a message and we could have spoke about it. CDRL98 (talk) 21:59, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
- Come on, don't tell me you live in East Belfast and that your surname contains an Y... The Banner talk 22:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
- Checking up on me, nice to see it, served my time, trying to help though, but this page is just something I want on wikipedia, I feel it has a right to be here, I want to build it to be a suitable page, give it time please. CDRL98 (talk) 22:20, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, it was the article history that got me interested in EastBelfastBoy. It is sad to see that it leads to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/EastBelfastBoy but you left me no choice. The Banner talk 22:34, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
- Checking up on me, nice to see it, served my time, trying to help though, but this page is just something I want on wikipedia, I feel it has a right to be here, I want to build it to be a suitable page, give it time please. CDRL98 (talk) 22:20, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
- I looked at this, he was a 13 year old boy when he was banned - or maybe younger even - barely old enough to even be considered a criminal under UK law if he did something against the law. It's very curious that you'd want to see someone receive a lifetime ban for something they did when they were 13 years old and also want to push this on towards a now 16 year considering you are a much older man.87.114.181.58 (talk) 23:30, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't buy that. The Banner talk 00:08, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- I looked at this, he was a 13 year old boy when he was banned - or maybe younger even - barely old enough to even be considered a criminal under UK law if he did something against the law. It's very curious that you'd want to see someone receive a lifetime ban for something they did when they were 13 years old and also want to push this on towards a now 16 year considering you are a much older man.87.114.181.58 (talk) 23:30, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
- That is not at all what is being suggested. We have clear pathways for returning to Wikipedia's editing community even after egregious infractions. Site-banned editors have returned. A great many indef-blocked editors have returned. There are very simply things CDRL would need to do to be afforded the "standard offer". That said, if he truly was 13 at the time, he is only 16 now. There's "maturity" and then there's "maturity". St★lwart111 00:14, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
Template:Chicken breeds of Belgium
Hi Banner. I didn't quite understand your request on my talk page? If you wanted to try to use the disambiguation page in the template, probably not needed. The breeds are listed individually already. JTdale Talk 11:23, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- The link to Belgian Bantam was already there before you merged the different breeds/varieties. So it left the template with a strange link to a disambiguation page. But I will remove the link, that solves the case too. The Banner talk 11:28, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Ah thanks. Didn't see that; works well. JTdale Talk 11:35, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Banner, you've made the same edit three times today, twice after being told that you were wrong; that is edit warring, and not acceptable here. I see that you thought you were doing the right thing, but that's really no excuse. Would you kindly now self-revert your latest mistake there? I'd be grateful. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:43, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Nope, because it was you who made the mistake. I am not taking the blame for your mess. The Banner talk 20:55, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Banner, you've made the same edit three times today, twice after being told that you were wrong; that is edit warring, and not acceptable here. I see that you thought you were doing the right thing, but that's really no excuse. Would you kindly now self-revert your latest mistake there? I'd be grateful. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:43, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Ah thanks. Didn't see that; works well. JTdale Talk 11:35, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
EXIT Festival
Hey, could you please expand on why reverted my changes to the EXIT festival page? I tried adding info about the last one - exit 15 - and sea dance too, but I'm not sure what I did wrong. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Assono (talk • contribs) 11:43, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- As stated in the summary: Revert unhelpful edits with too much screaming and too few sources. You have used useless disambiguations to create screaming band names as capitals are seen as screaming or shouting. And there were no hardly any sources. The Banner talk 11:47, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
Understood. I volunteer for EXIT's web team, so I'll do my best to cut the screaming (a result of a poor copy/paste choice) and find the required references - although the site changes frequently, hopefully there are some press releases on the site that can be used as reference material. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Assono (talk • contribs) 13:20, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, but we appreciate independent sources. Press releases, clearly promotional and related, are seldom worthy as source. See Reliable sources. The Banner talk 20:28, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
I see. Well, that's going to be really hard, nigh on impossible, I don't know if you've ever been to Serbia or the festival :D I'll try my best to dig up sources that link elsewhere. Thanks for all the help though, I learned a lot about Wikipedia in the process. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Assono (talk • contribs) 08:55, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for help in Jayme Amatnecks 179.104.192.67 (talk) 02:47, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
- You are welcome. But it would be a good idea to reduce the massive pictures in size (standard thumbsize is good enough, who wants a better look can doubleclick on the picture) and the overuse of bold (replacing by italics is better). The Banner talk 09:13, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Thank you for your edits to disambiguate the incoming links to Kick-Ass (comics)! Steel1943 (talk) 22:43, 14 October 2014 (UTC) |
- You're welcome. The Banner talk 23:10, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
- Never mind, but you can keep the Barnstar, even though the links weren't disambiguated. Steel1943 (talk) 00:44, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- The link fix had the same effect. The created redirect went to a disambig page while it was clear that the intended article was something else. So I have solved the multiple links to a disambiguation page. The Banner talk 09:17, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Though that may be the case that possibly all currently-existing links to Kick-Ass (comics) may refer to the subject in Kick-Ass (comic book), consensus has been formed on other similar discussions where if a "character" and a "comic book" article exist, then the title with the disambiguator "comics" should redirect to the disambiguation page, which was the point of the move discussion I started on Talk:Kick-Ass (comic book). A related redirect, Wolverine (comics), had a more complicated case, given that the title was previously the title of Wolverine (character), but the links to the redirect were split up referring to its move destination, Wolverine (comic book), Logan (comics), or some other random "Wolverine" comic book that doesn't yet have a Wikipedia article. Steel1943 (talk) 17:42, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
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St Kilda Football Club article
Hello, Thanks for your DAB link edits to the article. I just, however, restored this article to an earlier version due to multiple IP sockpuppet edits by an indefinitely blocked editor (his editing style is very obvious). In the process I had to undo your edits. I apologise for any inconvenience. Cheers, Afterwriting (talk) 01:49, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- I'll manually restore your edits where appropriate when I have some time ~ unless you know how to do it quickly some other way. Afterwriting (talk) 01:51, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- I gracefully forgive you. The Banner talk 08:28, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
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Brian J. Costello
Your and others' comments on the entry for Louisiana, American South and Mississippi Valley historian, author, archivist and humanitarian Brian J. Costello are quite severe and unfounded. I have worked with him on several projects related to historical and cultural preservation and promotion and, indeed, he is knowledge is mind-bogling and he is, indeed, a living person and not a "hoax." His innate modesty and humility is, doubtless, the reason why he and his work has not previously appeared in Wikipedia. I took it upon myself that justice be done to him and countless others of his caliber so that their works and accomplishments do go noticed in the world of Wikipedia. As an author myself, I intended to contribute entries related to American, European and Near Eastern historical and cultural interest. If the reception for this, my initial entry, is indicative of what I will have to contend with, then Wikipedia is not for me, nor my colleagues. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Okelousa (talk • contribs) 13:43, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, but there are certain guidelines for the notability of people. Important with that is that you deliver reliable, prior published, third party sources (WP:RS). And articles shoul;d be neutral, something what was not the case. Your own motivation makes clear that you do not have enough distance between you and the subject. The Banner talk 19:05, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
Jadoon
My apologies for my revert on Jadoon, it looked as if it was an accidental of some sort as it removed a LOT of information which included citation to seemingly valid sources. I'm still getting used to this, I'll be sure to look out next time. --Kethrus///Talk To Me 13:19, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
- No problem. The Banner talk 13:20, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
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'Fake merger'
What fake merger? Here's the article before the redirect and here's the discussion that led to the merger. 93.109.171.237 (talk) 21:19, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- Where is the official merge-proposal? I see none. But I did see a repeated placement of earlier removed text. The Banner talk 21:24, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- A merge proposal/discussion isn't required before performing a merge. I didn't look at the history of this article to see if any of the things I added were in it before. I thought some of the history in Çamlıköy, though unsourced, seemed plausible, so I copied it over. Also, if we're to ignore that you unjustly accused me of performing a 'fake merger', if your beef's with the merger, why did you revert my first edit? 93.109.171.237 (talk) 21:43, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- Why did you not follow procedure and do a proper merge proposal? Usually, a merger is subject to an open discussion, nor a hidden one. The Banner talk 21:46, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- The discussion on User:Dr.K.'s talk page was for getting rid of the duplicates. There was no discussion for the merge, neither open nor 'hidden'. Stop trying to grasp at straws; you were obviously in the wrong for accusing me of performing a fake merge. 93.109.171.237 (talk) 21:58, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- So it was not even an merge proposal, as you stated just before.
- But to play it nicely: add only sourced and neutral content (conform WP:RS and WP:NPOV) Everything else will be removed. End of discussion. The Banner talk 22:04, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- The discussion on User:Dr.K.'s talk page was for getting rid of the duplicates. There was no discussion for the merge, neither open nor 'hidden'. Stop trying to grasp at straws; you were obviously in the wrong for accusing me of performing a fake merge. 93.109.171.237 (talk) 21:58, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- Why did you not follow procedure and do a proper merge proposal? Usually, a merger is subject to an open discussion, nor a hidden one. The Banner talk 21:46, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- A merge proposal/discussion isn't required before performing a merge. I didn't look at the history of this article to see if any of the things I added were in it before. I thought some of the history in Çamlıköy, though unsourced, seemed plausible, so I copied it over. Also, if we're to ignore that you unjustly accused me of performing a 'fake merger', if your beef's with the merger, why did you revert my first edit? 93.109.171.237 (talk) 21:43, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- I thought about the idea of merger before redirecting but the duplicate articles were recently created and were not contributed to, or largely contributed to, by the creator alone. Therefore I redirected without any merge proposals. The IP editor duly informed me on my talk and after I performed the redirects s/he rescued some unsourced history with proper attribution in their edit summary. There was no intent on their part of a fake merger. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 22:12, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- To be more exact, Çamlıköy was first created as a redirect page to Kalo Horio/Çamlıköy by the creator of the latter, Passportguy. Subsequently, it was converted to a dab page, which in September 2014 was unilaterally converted by an IP into a duplicate article by adding the unsourced history. IP editor 93.109.171.237 expressed his reservations to me about the history, although in the end s/he added it to the main article. I don't mind if the unsourced history stays out of the main article, especially if sources cannot be found to support it. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 22:45, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- But what mr. IP was doing, was restoring earlier removed, unsourced information. And after seeing some remarkable moves before (Kalo Chorio moved between three locations and two nation states), I just take the tough stance: no sources, no content. The Banner talk 22:48, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- I did not contest your removing the text I merged from Çamlıköy. I just thought you were a little abrasive in saying it was a fake merge and in the way that you responded to me here. A tough stance doesn't mean you gotta make unsubstantiated assertions and then refuse to retract them. 93.109.171.237 (talk) 22:52, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- It was not a merge, it was restoring info. (See 27 September). That Bir1akce started fooling around after that, does not matter. The Banner talk 23:00, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- Right, but I didn't know that. I think you can see how I could've taken that to mean that you were questioning my sincerity. Anyway, yeah, let's move on. 93.109.171.237 (talk) 23:09, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- After Banner explained it, I saw that the unsourced history was removed on 27 September by him/her from the main article. In any case, neither the IP editor 93.109.171.237 nor I knew about this, and now that I examined the edit, I fully agree with Banner's removal of it. I think IP editor 93.109.171.237 added it hoping that someone could source it or improve it. I thought so too in the beginning, but I don't think it is salvageable, after giving it a second look. As a closing remark, editor 93.109.171.237 has helped fix a big mess regarding this topic and in general, s/he has contributed greatly to the cleanup of Cypriot onomatology. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 23:37, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- Right, but I didn't know that. I think you can see how I could've taken that to mean that you were questioning my sincerity. Anyway, yeah, let's move on. 93.109.171.237 (talk) 23:09, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Ok. At least on the subject of restoring the unsourced history everyone is on the same page. In this topic area, that's real progress. As far as the fake merge allegation, I don't think it was, but given this is Banner's talkpage, I don't want to put pressure on him/her and I think that my part here is done. Thank you both. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 23:06, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- It was not a merge, it was restoring info. (See 27 September). That Bir1akce started fooling around after that, does not matter. The Banner talk 23:00, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- I did not contest your removing the text I merged from Çamlıköy. I just thought you were a little abrasive in saying it was a fake merge and in the way that you responded to me here. A tough stance doesn't mean you gotta make unsubstantiated assertions and then refuse to retract them. 93.109.171.237 (talk) 22:52, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- But what mr. IP was doing, was restoring earlier removed, unsourced information. And after seeing some remarkable moves before (Kalo Chorio moved between three locations and two nation states), I just take the tough stance: no sources, no content. The Banner talk 22:48, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
On further investigation it is apparent that 27.32.217.108 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) is the same as Bir1akce. I don't think this is an IP sock of the user but it may be the user editing while logged out. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 01:22, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- At as a closing accord in this play, I had to revert some templates to get everything back to the right place. I think I have to send in my fellow countrymen to conquer the whole island and restore peace. And learn them drink Guinness. The Banner talk 09:35, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- The bits I restored yesterday seem to have been (mostly) copied from Lefka. There's some references there, but the prose is horrible. 93.109.171.237 (talk) 10:14, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- I would revert that article to the version of BGWhite on 1 October 2014. We might have to clean up all articles edited by IP:27/Bir1akce. The Banner talk 10:18, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- In fact I just did the revert. looking up the detail of the merge proposal for the harbour, I found some close paraphrasing but with the "Greek" names replaced by "Turkish" names. The Banner talk 10:29, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. That port is closest to Karavostasi, not Lefka, though. 93.109.171.237 (talk) 10:48, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- In fact I just did the revert. looking up the detail of the merge proposal for the harbour, I found some close paraphrasing but with the "Greek" names replaced by "Turkish" names. The Banner talk 10:29, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- I would revert that article to the version of BGWhite on 1 October 2014. We might have to clean up all articles edited by IP:27/Bir1akce. The Banner talk 10:18, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- The bits I restored yesterday seem to have been (mostly) copied from Lefka. There's some references there, but the prose is horrible. 93.109.171.237 (talk) 10:14, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
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Template:Nellore district
I obey your statement, but there are n number of villages, it is better to add an extra template named as villages in xxx district (in Andhra Pradesh), but still its ok for now, if it is excess we'll try. I want to let you know that I've readded content like Mandals because in your undid revision it was lost at this edit. Anyways thanks for info. I need some help regarding templates if you can see at Template:Cities and towns in Prakasam district and some pages in Category:Andhra Pradesh cities and towns by district templates. Any suggestions, thanks in advance.--Vin09 (talk) 03:35, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- I found those templates because you had linked "see also". But the list of villages is not overly long while linking to a category is frowned upon. You can add villages that do not have an article (yet) to a template. The Banner talk 09:37, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- But I read that non-existing articles should not be added, it was clearly written in all those templates by its user who created. Fine, I saw that User talk:The Banner is being seen in Category:Andhra Pradesh cities and towns by district templates this page.--Vin09 (talk) 16:38, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- A minor typo of your hand added my talk page to that category, now fixed. You typed [[Category:Andhra Pradesh cities and towns by district templates]], what added my talk page to the category. But by typing [[:Category:Andhra Pradesh cities and towns by district templates]] with an extra colon before category, it becomes a link. You should use this trick also when you want to link to a template, instead of adding it. The Banner talk 18:43, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- But I read that non-existing articles should not be added, it was clearly written in all those templates by its user who created. Fine, I saw that User talk:The Banner is being seen in Category:Andhra Pradesh cities and towns by district templates this page.--Vin09 (talk) 16:38, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- It is better to avoid red links, but it is not illegal. Common practise is to only add red links of articles that will be written in the near future (say: a month) or as part of an ongoing project. The Banner talk 19:27, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
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The discussion was closed as "keep", further explanatory given by myself was that there is no consensus to delete. It's a standard phrase that I generally use as further explanation. Given that there are no delete !votes in that discussion, it would be quite inappropriate to close it as "no consensus" as there are in fact users who !voted keep. Please do not refactor my comments or change any discussions that I've closed. If you disagree with the closure statement, you're welcome to message me or take it to deletion review. Dusti*Let's talk!* 20:09, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
- The way you wrote it, is rather ambiguous. I read The result was keep. After being relisted twice there is no consensus to delete. as "keep as no consensus". If that is wrong, change the wording. The Banner talk 22:38, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
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With regards to this edit the edit. As we are dealing with a new user, and this is their first large edit to Wikipedia, please ping the user and explain your reasons on talk:Timeline of the Napoleonic era for the revert. -- PBS (talk) 12:45, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
- Done The Banner talk 15:37, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Michelin stars
Hi, about your reversal edit in {{Michelin stars}} ( talk history links # /subpages /doc /sbox /sbox diff /test) (you changed svg back into gif). It surprised me because you mentioned a performance issue in List of Michelin starred restaurants in the Netherlands. An interesting article that is!
I assume you know, in general an svg file is preferred over a gif file (examples). Also, we are not supposed "don't worry about performance, unless performance is an issue" (I can give more links if you like so, but I think you are familiar with this topic).
To check the performance issue you mentioned (long loading times of the article) I did some research. I created {{Michelin stars/sandbox}} with svg files as I proposed. I then previewed the article six times: three times in current state ({{Michelin stars}}, gif's), and three times with the sandbox ({{Michelin stars/sandbox}}, svg's). I replaced all templates with the sandbox. Note that the template is called 2587 times.
From Parser profiling data:
- gif1
- CPU time usage 19.537 seconds
- gif2
- CPU time usage 14.617 seconds
- gif 3
- CPU time usage 16.725 seconds
- svg1 (2587 replacements)
- CPU time usage 17.013 seconds
- svg 2
- CPU time usage 19.785 seconds
- svg 3
- CPU time usage 19.245 seconds
Parser profiling data, six tests (from preview)
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;gif1 Parser profiling data: CPU time usage 19.537 seconds Real time usage 22.049 seconds Preprocessor visited node count 45898/1000000 Preprocessor generated node count 63722/1500000 Post-expand include size 1059813/2048000 bytes Template argument size 106447/2048000 bytes Highest expansion depth 9/40 Expensive parser function count 3/500 Lua time usage 0.300/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage 2.93 MB/50 MB ;gif2 Parser profiling data: CPU time usage 14.617 seconds Real time usage 16.625 seconds Preprocessor visited node count 45898/1000000 Preprocessor generated node count 63722/1500000 Post-expand include size 1059813/2048000 bytes Template argument size 106447/2048000 bytes Highest expansion depth 9/40 Expensive parser function count 3/500 Lua time usage 0.300/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage 2.92 MB/50 MB ;gif 3 Parser profiling data: CPU time usage 16.725 seconds Real time usage 18.832 seconds Preprocessor visited node count 45898/1000000 Preprocessor generated node count 63722/1500000 Post-expand include size 1059813/2048000 bytes Template argument size 106447/2048000 bytes Highest expansion depth 9/40 Expensive parser function count 3/500 Lua time usage 0.352/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage 2.92 MB/50 MB ;svg1 (2587 replacements) Parser profiling data: CPU time usage 17.013 seconds Real time usage 21.735 seconds Preprocessor visited node count 45898/1000000 Preprocessor generated node count 63638/1500000 Post-expand include size 1183989/2048000 bytes Template argument size 147839/2048000 bytes Highest expansion depth 9/40 Expensive parser function count 3/500 Lua time usage 0.356/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage 2.93 MB/50 MB ;svg 2 Parser profiling data: CPU time usage 19.785 seconds Real time usage 24.796 seconds Preprocessor visited node count 45898/1000000 Preprocessor generated node count 63638/1500000 Post-expand include size 1183989/2048000 bytes Template argument size 147839/2048000 bytes Highest expansion depth 9/40 Expensive parser function count 3/500 Lua time usage 0.297/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage 2.93 MB/50 MB ;svg 3 Parser profiling data: CPU time usage 19.245 seconds Real time usage 24.612 seconds Preprocessor visited node count 45898/1000000 Preprocessor generated node count 63638/1500000 Post-expand include size 1183989/2048000 bytes Template argument size 147839/2048000 bytes Highest expansion depth 9/40 Expensive parser function count 3/500 Lua time usage 0.341/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage 2.92 MB/50 MB |
From this, I conclude that the page loads very slow indeed. That is, only once, right after an edit; and in every preview; after that every loading or page opening for reading is fast. However, I see no big difference between gif and svg. So the slow loading is not caused by the gif/svg difference. (If I miss something so far, please tell me).
That says that we can switch to svg files without causing this problem. And since svg is preferred, we should do so. (Of course, the page can use a good check for other issues).
Another problem from your edit is that from this one article, the template would be restricted for all articles. That means that the article causes the problem and spreads it, not the template. And so that must be solved in or through that article.
I propose to use the svg files in the template, and --independently-- look for improvements in the article. What do you think? -DePiep (talk) 09:52, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
- I use that article quite often, as base for the articles about restaurants. I noticed a severe deterioration in loading times down here. That is why I am very reluctant to the change. But, that is not a 100% no.
- Another thing is style of the etoile. Yours is very thin and has a rather bleak appearance. Perhaps you can change that a little (giving it more "body").
- Then the question of how to use it. I think the easiest option will be to develop a second template. The present one, used in the "normal" articles can be altered to use the SVG. The new one, used in the list/overview articles like List of Michelin starred restaurants in the Netherlands, List of Michelin starred restaurants in Ireland and the list of Great-Britain that is still on my wish list, can use the GIF.
- Perhaps not the best solution technically, but I think the most workable. (By the way, I have not a clue why SVG is preferred, although I have heard about this preference before.) The Banner talk 11:03, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
- Good plan to make that second template for gifs, isolates the psossible issue. I'll start that, and report here. btw, I do not think that speeds up the page (as the tests indicate), but if you think it useful I'm fine with that.
- svg, in general, is better scalable (finer lines & color-borders in every size).
- 'More body' = thicker lines in the scg you mean? will look into that, later on. -DePiep (talk) 11:28, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
- Indeed, a bit thicker lines. Good for people with less than perfect eyesight. The Banner talk 11:33, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
- I see, now both in one page: template:Michelin stars/testcases. Will take care after the name split. -DePiep (talk) 12:31, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
- Indeed, a bit thicker lines. Good for people with less than perfect eyesight. The Banner talk 11:33, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
- I have created {{Michelin stars (gif)}} and made pages List of Michelin starred restaurants in the Netherlands and List of Michelin starred restaurants in the Netherlands to use that (no other pages by me); Ireland only has 195 times that template). The others can use {{Michelin stars}}, the default template. If you see issues, tell me. -DePiep (talk) 14:10, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
- Talk better continue at Template talk:Michelin stars. -DePiep (talk) 14:17, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Halloween cheer!
- Thanks! Much appreciated. The Banner talk 20:24, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
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'Unhelpful edits'
Why are these edits 'unhelpful'? [1] 31.153.72.171 (talk) 13:40, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
- It's been some time, so I'll speak my mind. This is the second time I've had to come to your talk page 'cause you left a careless summary. Why won't you at least come to me and explain why -- exactly -- my changes are unhelpful? Also, I think you've let Twinkle get to you. If reverting multiple edits wasn't made so easy, you'd have a better think if reverting is the right choice to make. (I'm the same person as above; I've had to restart my router, so my IP changed.) 213.7.147.34 (talk) 23:29, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
- You better create a normal account instead of using IPs. Secondly, it has nothing to do with Twinkle, just with strange edits. That I don't recognise you as neing the same, forgive me. With different ISP you make that a tough job. The Banner talk 03:31, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, what was strange? 213.7.147.34 (talk) 09:56, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
- You better create a normal account instead of using IPs. Secondly, it has nothing to do with Twinkle, just with strange edits. That I don't recognise you as neing the same, forgive me. With different ISP you make that a tough job. The Banner talk 03:31, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Unexplained removal of a comment from a discussion
Can you explain why you removed a comment of mine from Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Carbon0901? Except under quite special circumstances, removing another editor's comment from a discussion page is unacceptable, and if you do think there are valid reasons for making an exception in this case then you need to explain those reasons. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 10:49, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
- No, I can not explain that. I do not even remember having done that. I fear, I misclicked something. My apology for that. The Banner talk 10:53, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
- OK. Things like that happen to all of us sometimes. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 15:02, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
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2013–14 Plymouth Argyle F.C. season
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you sent me a message re 2013–14 Plymouth Argyle F.C. season I've been editing and contributing too, I believe I have fixed all the six issues. Didn't know if I was supposed to reply or exactly how to reply so hope this is an ok method. Ps I'm new to editing so am finding my feet. Thanks for your imput Adam ADZC7 (talk) 23:00, 3 November 2014 (UTC) |
- a) You could have replied in normal text, without borders or picture.
- b) My sincere compliments about solving those links to disambiguation pages. I knew that they were hidden in templates, what makes them more difficult to solve. And then you told me that you are new around here, so a little despair crept up. But you did it! Again my compliments! The Banner talk 23:40, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Yes as soon as I found the mistakes it was easily rectified as football related stuff is my passion it wasn't hard to change them. Cheers again and just out of intresti used Dablinks to find the faults. Is it better to use another repair of system and does the one you mentioned need to be downloaded to my desktop. Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by ADZC7 (talk • contribs) 00:14, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- I liked the results and that is what counts. There are several tools available tot solve dab-links, so you canb pick the one that suits you best. Good luck with it! The Banner talk 00:18, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
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Karavostasi / Gemikonagi
The problem with the merge proposal as you present it, is that there is no article Gemikonagi to merge to. That article was moved back to Karavostasi. Your moving the article during the merge discussion was, to quote yourself, "confusing for others and complicating procedures". Please do not confuse it more by insisting on discussing a move to a non-existent article. Regards! --T*U (talk) 18:05, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- I can not help it that other people get emotional over a Turkish or a Greek name. I do not get emotional over it and I just try to pick the right one. The Banner talk 18:13, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- It is not a question of being emotional, it is a question of not confusing matters. If you want to move the article to Gemikonagi, I suggest you start a formal WP:RM. But insisting on discussing a merge to Gemikonagi when the article is named Karavostasi, seems rather strange. --T*U (talk) 18:27, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- And sneaky, false request do not make me happy. The Banner talk 18:20, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- Was the "sneaky, false request" part meant for me? --T*U (talk) 18:27, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- No, that was not for you. That was for a certain IP who stated that the move was undiscussed (not true) and uncontroversial (a joke, I guess) The Banner talk 18:30, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- The move was undiscussed. Where did you consult with anyone before moving it? Also, I filed it under 'Requests to revert undiscussed moves', specifically saying that it was done in a 'controversial area'. 213.7.147.34 (talk) 18:32, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- No, that was not for you. That was for a certain IP who stated that the move was undiscussed (not true) and uncontroversial (a joke, I guess) The Banner talk 18:30, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- Was the "sneaky, false request" part meant for me? --T*U (talk) 18:27, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
And with emotions totally taken over from reason, I bale out. Happy edit warring and POV-pushing. Looks like the UN-Peacekeepers get another stint of 50 years there. The Banner talk 18:44, 4 November 2014 (UTC)