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*'''Further comment''': For TGS to state that he (I am using the user's historic pronouns until they state otherwise) has a "friendship" with {{U|Garagepunk66}} is grossly misleading, as he used the socks '''specifically to attack''' Garagepunk66 while pretending that the socks were actually CrazyAces489. Furthermore, he continued harassing Garagepunk66 even after the socks were blocked, to the point that Garagepunk66 had to reach out to {{U|Bishonen}} to request an interaction ban [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bishonen&oldid=748127926#Need_an_interaction_ban], and even after that the harassment did not stop. [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 05:40, 27 November 2018 (UTC) |
*'''Further comment''': For TGS to state that he (I am using the user's historic pronouns until they state otherwise) has a "friendship" with {{U|Garagepunk66}} is grossly misleading, as he used the socks '''specifically to attack''' Garagepunk66 while pretending that the socks were actually CrazyAces489. Furthermore, he continued harassing Garagepunk66 even after the socks were blocked, to the point that Garagepunk66 had to reach out to {{U|Bishonen}} to request an interaction ban [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bishonen&oldid=748127926#Need_an_interaction_ban], and even after that the harassment did not stop. [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 05:40, 27 November 2018 (UTC) |
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:*{{ping|Softlavender}} look at the countless discussions Garagepunk and I had prior to my block and our shared interests. Me describing that as “friendship” is not meant to mislead anyone; I genuinely felt that is what it was. In response to that diff, Bishonen wrote there were no [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bishonen&direction=next&oldid=748001836 obvious signs that TheGracefulSlick is posting in bad faith]. Garagepunk was at the time, however, understandably upset about my past behavior and perhaps even just by my very presence. I do not deny my socking was harassment, and I tried reconciling with him for that; but as a consequence of my behavior, we no longer speak and I came to terms with that. But, again, I did not intend to mislead anyone by believing our lengthy discussions and collaborations once constituted a friendship.[[User:TheGracefulSlick|TheGracefulSlick]] ([[User talk:TheGracefulSlick#top|talk]]) 06:42, 27 November 2018 (UTC) |
:*{{ping|Softlavender}} look at the countless discussions Garagepunk and I had prior to my block and our shared interests. Me describing that as “friendship” is not meant to mislead anyone; I genuinely felt that is what it was. In response to that diff, Bishonen wrote there were no [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bishonen&direction=next&oldid=748001836 obvious signs that TheGracefulSlick is posting in bad faith]. Garagepunk was at the time, however, understandably upset about my past behavior and perhaps even just by my very presence. I do not deny my socking was harassment, and I tried reconciling with him for that; but as a consequence of my behavior, we no longer speak and I came to terms with that. But, again, I did not intend to mislead anyone by believing our lengthy discussions and collaborations once constituted a friendship.[[User:TheGracefulSlick|TheGracefulSlick]] ([[User talk:TheGracefulSlick#top|talk]]) 06:42, 27 November 2018 (UTC) |
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::*You ceased to have a "friendship" with him when you created two sockpuppets to attack him. So calling it a "friendship" after your socking was found out by checkusers was simply you trying to prevent being found out by someone who actually thought your friendship with him was sincere. No one creates sockpuppets to attack an actual friend. [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 06:54, 27 November 2018 (UTC) |
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TheGracefulSlick (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Writing and my friends outside of Wikipedia have helped me rebuild my confidence. After taking a two month break from anything related to Wikipedia, I began writing articles for WikiNews. I introduced myself to entirely new editors, who welcomed me despite the behavior that led to my block.
If I am granted re-entry into the community, I intend to apply the lessons the editors at WikiNews taught me. I will remove myself from controversial topic areas of Wikipedia such as present-day politics for the next six months, then honestly evaluate my progress with an administrator. I look to finish editing GA projects in my sandbox and collaborate on other historical subjects; long-term, I plan to improve the remaining studio albums by the Doors to GA status, write articles on books, and contribute more to content on women. By joining Women in Green, I look to set positive goals for my editing.
In the unlikely event I find myself relapsing, I know now I have strong support in the community, to not feel ashamed to ask for help, and I have the ability to ask for a self-block. This is a route I should have understood more prior to making my mistake. If it is the opinion of the admin that my request here is insufficient or something needs clarifying regarding my plans, please prompt me further.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 21:05, 23 November 2018 (UTC)Notes:
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Pinging Bbb23 as the blocking admin. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:47, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- I'm open to the thoughts of others and I like the honesty of the unblock request, but I would prefer to wait the standard period of six months, which would be February 5, 2019, before considering an unblock.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:19, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- I agree it's a little early. But it's a good appeal, and I think we might possibly apply one of the "variations" in the Standard offer essay: "
The six-month threshold can be adjustable under special circumstances. If an editor shows an unusually good insight into the circumstances that led to the block, and sets out a credible proposal for how they will deal with those issues in future, then a return might be considered sooner.
" Bishonen | talk 11:14, 24 November 2018 (UTC). - I saw this earlier and was thinking along the same lines as Bishonen. Usually I'd want to wait for the SO six months too, but I don't think we could ask for a better unblock request than this and I'd be happy to unblock now. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:13, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- Okay folks, regardless of what the essay says, the six-month period is not set in stone. That said, I do not think TGS should be unblocked without more. How about we let the community decide at WP:AN as we often do after six months have expired? I will consent to the community's consensus. That was my initial thought anyway but I didn't want to prejudice any comments from other administrators.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:44, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: if you go that route I will be prepared to answer any questions, if there are any. Thanks for considering my appeal.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 19:47, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- Okay folks, regardless of what the essay says, the six-month period is not set in stone. That said, I do not think TGS should be unblocked without more. How about we let the community decide at WP:AN as we often do after six months have expired? I will consent to the community's consensus. That was my initial thought anyway but I didn't want to prejudice any comments from other administrators.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:44, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi, Bbb23. I thought of taking it to AN, but I don't know much about the background, and your block notice isn't very detailed. Could you do it, please? Bishonen | talk 08:52, 26 November 2018 (UTC).
- I would have been happy to see an unblock just on the basis of this request, but I also don't know the details and so I'd defer and would support an AN request too. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 12:22, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Bishonen and Boing! said Zebedee: It's a bit unusual for admins to want to unblock a sock without knowing the "details". My block notice is standard. Given how many socks I block, if I used personalized block notices, I'd get even less sleep than I already do. In any event, perhaps it would be best for TGS to explain what she did. It's helpful for you to explain why, TGS, but it's equally important for you to set forth what your various accounts actually did. That would include the most recent sock, Nobody's Keeper (talk · contribs · count), as well as the ones from longer ago: ABriefPassing (talk · contribs · count) and ALongStay (talk · contribs · count).--Bbb23 (talk) 14:20, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Well, yes, that's kind of what I'm saying (and I meant I would have been happy to unblock if you went along with it). As it is I'll defer to you as you do know the details, and I agree with your AN suggestion. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:25, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Bishonen and Boing! said Zebedee: It's a bit unusual for admins to want to unblock a sock without knowing the "details". My block notice is standard. Given how many socks I block, if I used personalized block notices, I'd get even less sleep than I already do. In any event, perhaps it would be best for TGS to explain what she did. It's helpful for you to explain why, TGS, but it's equally important for you to set forth what your various accounts actually did. That would include the most recent sock, Nobody's Keeper (talk · contribs · count), as well as the ones from longer ago: ABriefPassing (talk · contribs · count) and ALongStay (talk · contribs · count).--Bbb23 (talk) 14:20, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- This really needs a community consensus, IMO. Not only was TGS outrageously socking in 2016 (two socks, which were attacking Garagepunk66 and masquerading as CrazyAces489), even when confronted with clear evidence from Mike V. and DeltaQuad that CU results showed incontrovertibly that the two impersonators were TGS, he kept denying it over and over and over (see this thread and this thread). Not having learned his lesson, he socked again three months ago to cast two votes in an RFA. Although TGS is a good content creator, I'm afraid these violations are quite egregious when taken together, and that TGS has lost the community's trust. I think that three months is too soon to ask for an unblock, and that any unblock request should be put to AN or ANI, or at the very least have the input of parties familiar with the situation. Softlavender (talk) 15:02, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Softlavender: Why do you call her a he (she says her real name is Grace)? Speaking of whom, @TGS, when you respond to my request, please also (1) identify any accounts you've used and (2) whether you have ever intentionally edited logged out (do not disclose the IP(s)).--Bbb23 (talk) 15:56, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- TGS has repeatedly maintained that he is a guy, and has repeatedly corrected those who have assumed he was female. I see now that in May 2017 he added to his userpage to state "Grace, born Tyler T.", so I do not know what his current self-identified gender is, I only know that I have never personally seen anyone familiar with the user and his username call TGS anything but he/him. Softlavender (talk) 16:07, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: sorry for the delay. Yes, I was first blocked in 2016 for socking with ABriefPassing and then ALongStay. Those were used mainly to nominate articles for deletion without taking any heat from CrazyAces and a friend Garagepunk66, as well as serve as an “extra vote”. Sad to say Garagepunk and I have not communicated as much as we once had. I will explain why, this time around, I socked again. Let me point out, however, I am not using it as an excuse. What led to my socking was a lack of self-esteem, believing persistent hurtful comments, and—most importantly—not reporting it to admins or others who could help me. I used the sock in hopes of being caught and forced to break from Wikipedia when I could not take the necessary steps to take a break myself. When minor edits failed, I voted at AFDs; finally, I used it at RfA, knowing admins had to be on alert there.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 18:37, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- PS, I have never intentionally edited logged out, though there was an incident where a relative did edit on my IP. I passed the situation on to Arbcom and they accepted the explanation. Drmies, I believe, was the one who replied to my e-mail at that time.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 18:41, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- TGS, there are many things that trouble me about your behavior, but why did you lie about the two sock accounts in 2016? There is a disturbing pattern of deceit and poor judgment that goes back years. Why should we believe anything you say?--Bbb23 (talk) 18:49, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: I lied in 2016 to try and protect my friendship. Notice how the two accounts were inactive for nearly two months prior to being blocked? It came as a surprise and I thought denying it would save that friendship; I was wrong. I cannot change my prior actions and you understandably should be hesitant. Sharing my mental health at the time is not easy for me to do. It is difficult to prove to you the time I spent rebuilding my self-esteem and finding genuine enjoyment in writing again. Perhaps only the new attitude I bring to Wikipedia will convince you of my honesty. I am open to criticism and discussion, but will no longer be in it for the competitive nature this place sometimes brings about or the insults. I still value the intent of this place, but I never again will value it over my own health. In short, I just see no reason to lie because I have nothing to gain; it has only worsened my situation in the past and reflects poorly on who I actually am.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 19:29, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you @Softlavender: for the ping. I'm happy to see the openness and willingness to participate in a post-mortem of what happened and acknowledging of that. I normally wouldn't even be persuaded to consider your unblock request, but it's one of the ones that addresses all the points needed in WP:GTAB, which is a rarity, and shows at minimum you understand your mistake. Right now, i'm considering the possibility of the three months being commuted, but I also think that it's so early that it would be inappropriate to not consult the community. That being said, regardless of the unblock, I am here via email if you wish to talk about mental health. I have struggles of my own along with some strategies that may help. Feel free to inbox me. Also please ping me in any reply you want me to see. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 23:10, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you DeltaQuad. I will always remember your offer when I need help on how to approach a situation better. I know in the future I need to pause and accept counsel more often. Many times in the past I always thought I needed to handle things myself, but now I know that is far from the truth. I would be happy to have the community’s input and will accept the decision regardless of the outcome.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 00:32, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Boing! said Zebedee and Bishonen: Folks, I think I've more than flushed out all the details. DeltaQuad has stated that we should take this to AN. Do you agree? @TGS, thank you for your patience.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:40, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- Yep, I agree. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 06:31, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- Further comment: For TGS to state that he (I am using the user's historic pronouns until they state otherwise) has a "friendship" with Garagepunk66 is grossly misleading, as he used the socks specifically to attack Garagepunk66 while pretending that the socks were actually CrazyAces489. Furthermore, he continued harassing Garagepunk66 even after the socks were blocked, to the point that Garagepunk66 had to reach out to Bishonen to request an interaction ban [1], and even after that the harassment did not stop. Softlavender (talk) 05:40, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Softlavender: look at the countless discussions Garagepunk and I had prior to my block and our shared interests. Me describing that as “friendship” is not meant to mislead anyone; I genuinely felt that is what it was. In response to that diff, Bishonen wrote there were no obvious signs that TheGracefulSlick is posting in bad faith. Garagepunk was at the time, however, understandably upset about my past behavior and perhaps even just by my very presence. I do not deny my socking was harassment, and I tried reconciling with him for that; but as a consequence of my behavior, we no longer speak and I came to terms with that. But, again, I did not intend to mislead anyone by believing our lengthy discussions and collaborations once constituted a friendship.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 06:42, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- You ceased to have a "friendship" with him when you created two sockpuppets to attack him. So calling it a "friendship" after your socking was found out by checkusers was simply you trying to prevent being found out by someone who actually thought your friendship with him was sincere. No one creates sockpuppets to attack an actual friend. Softlavender (talk) 06:54, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
John B Magruder
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