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Just a heads up that I'll be listing this at [[WP:DRV|DRV]], I'll ping you when it goes up. I feel it should have been relisted, given that all the non-single-purpose !votes were the same ones that participated in the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lyle Stevik|original nomination]]. - [[User:Hahnchen|hahnch]][[User:Hahnchen/E|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Hahnchen|n]] 19:53, 9 April 2015 (UTC) |
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- I've added a comment to address this in the original discussion. I would also like to note that I was alerted to the vandalism at around 5:54, and I did not notice any other IPS vandalizing until around 6 o'clock. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 21:14, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
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Hi! You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Toth as no consensus. Have you been following the current RfC at Wikipedia talk:Deletion process#RFC (quorum)? I suggest that your close while that RfC was still open was inappropriate, and invite you to undo it. Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 09:40, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
- The RfC is not going to be closed until March, so I do not think it is appropriate to keep it open that long when it has already been relisted twice. I closed the AfD as WP:NPASR, so I invite you to nominate it for deletion again if you think it does not meet notability requirements. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 20:29, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
- Perhaps I'm missing something, but why would that be better? Apart from some extra work for a few people, the only substantive difference I can see would be that the useful comment by Tokyogirl79 would not be there. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 00:12, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- Per WP:Relist, AfDs are generally only supposed to be relisted twice. If you dislike the outcome, re-nominate the article and address the points made by Tokyogirl179. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 00:28, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- Perhaps I'm missing something, but why would that be better? Apart from some extra work for a few people, the only substantive difference I can see would be that the useful comment by Tokyogirl79 would not be there. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 00:12, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
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request for help regarding AfD you closed
Hi,
You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of online chess playing programs as redirect to list of chess software. No dispute from me given the discussion. However, list of chess software appears to be just about chess software rather than programs to play chess online. "Online chess playing programs" isn't actually so clear what that could even mean. Nonetheless, that it's "online" suggests playing chess against a computer via the Internet or playing chess against other humans on the Internet, limiting the possibilities to websites, chess servers, or perhaps the clients one uses to access chess servers. Regardless, none of those are relevant to list of chess software. If we're going to keep the redirect, the closest match is list of Internet chess servers. Unfortunately it looks like it wasn't really discussed in the AfD.
This doesn't seem like a controversial change, and indeed is pretty trivial in the long-run, so I'm a little self-conscious about even bringing it up :) The article creator, IQ125, seems to be upset with me and seems to be edit warring over copy/pasting the list at list of chess software as well as my change in redirect (he/she even filed a very short-lived SPI about me). As his/her only argument thus far has been "that's what consensus was at afd", I'm hoping you, as closer, could help out. See User talk:IQ125. --— Rhododendrites talk \\ 02:58, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- The overwhelming majority of voters supported the current redirect position, but you were the last to vote and no debate occurred over the best redirect target. I am therefore unable to tell whether there is a consensus for the current position, or whether its something everyone went with without having a strong opinion about. I would start a discussion on the page you want to re-redirect the article title to and message everyone who voted in the previous AfD since IQ125 had a pretty clear objection to your previous attempt to boldly redirect the article. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 03:55, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- Hmm. On one hand, AfD consensus is typically more about merit of arguments rather than majority such that if the majority of people said redirect to list of Disney characters consensus for that wouldn't make sense in the presence of a more logical option. On the other hand, it wasn't quite as obvious as Disney characters, of course, and I didn't leave a message here trying to dissuade you of your close decision. My only point is that if there was a majority opinion to redirect to a particular page, but another more accurate target wasn't brought up until the very end (and no argument against the alternative for that reason), WP:COMMONSENSE does apply. If there's a common sense reason, the fact of the close itself is not a good rationale for reverting. In other words, there should still be a reason to redirect to the other target -- a reason which is supported by the close.
- In the second place, it may help if you clarify what "redirect" means vs. "merge". IQ125 has again copy/pasted the whole list into list of chess software. If you don't want to get involved the latter can easily be solved at ANI, it seems. --— Rhododendrites talk \\ 13:55, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- The afd discussion and consensus were clear. I am following those instructions. It is just the way it is. He keeps reverting the information. Would you please get involved, it is clearly a case of edit war. Thanks IQ125 (talk) 12:09, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
I redirected the way I did because of both suggested targets were sensible redirects, but the list of chess software had the support of the overwhelming majority of voters. The attempt to re-redirect it was legitimate (at least in my opinion) per WP:Bold. However, it was reverted and is controversial.
The location of the redirect is clearly in dispute, and applying IAR is just going to intensify it without producing any productive results. The best solution is to just follow policy, gauge consensus, have a non-involved editor make the call, and then move on with our lives. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 16:29, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
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Hey, it looks like your AFD script is messing up. Nakon 05:07, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing that out. I'll go look into it and try to figure out what's been making it malfunction. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 05:17, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
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The hook in your DYK nomination of SCP Foundation is not acceptable. According to DYK rules, "If the subject is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must involve the real world in some way." It could be changed to something like ... that the SCP Foundation is a website describing a fictional organization which contains and documents thousands of paranormal objects that violate natural law? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:23, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- Whoops. I've edited the hook so it states "...that the SCP Foundation website (logo pictured) contains thousands of containment procedures for paranormal objects?". The hook is now about the real-world website, and the claim that they have containment procedures for thousands of paranormal objects is factually true. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 01:07, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks a lot, I'm always happy to assist the AfD process. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 01:17, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
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Windsor rep acting dynasty
Hi! I see that you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Windsor rep acting dynasty as keep. I assume you read and carefully evaluated Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BriceStratford before doing so, but don't you think it would have preferable to wait until the SPI team had time to reach a conclusion on that before making this close? I suggest that you self-revert and allow this to wait until someone much more experienced can close it. Also, since this the second time that I have come here to complain about an incorrect close (see Robert Toth above), may I ask you to consider carefully whether AfD closes is really the best area for your contributions? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:50, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
- I believe that my closure was the best option. There were an absolutely abundant number of reliable sources about the acting dynasty, and it clearly meets notability policies (something several other experienced voters also concluded). However, I was not aware that there was a sockpuppet investigation, so I'll relist this since its probably better for an actual admin due to these circumstances. Also, I I'm still unsure why my closure of Robert Toth as No Consnsus and NPASR was so problematic, since it was done according to our policy on relisting. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 20:45, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you, Spirit of Eagle, I appreciate it. I blame myself for not having mentioned the SPI on the AfD page; I thought the vote-stacking was so blatantly obvious that there was no need, but clearly I was wrong (and not for the first time, either!). Best regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:00, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
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- Note: I received this template after relisting an AfD that I had previously closed as keep due to the concerns listed above. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 20:54, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Just a heads up that I'll be listing this at DRV, I'll ping you when it goes up. I feel it should have been relisted, given that all the non-single-purpose !votes were the same ones that participated in the original nomination. - hahnchen 19:53, 9 April 2015 (UTC)