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Hello there! I saw that you moved an article that was created by me to a draftspace, despite me adding the {{Under construction}} template. Well, it is ready now. You can check it out here. I hope that you can review it soon. Good luck! --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 21:05, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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NPOV
Hi. such [1] edits are not appropriate even if you believe you're citing a partisan source. Please read WP:NPOV. GevHev4 (talk) 10:49, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- @GevHev4: please check the discussion in Talk:2020 Armenian–Azerbaijani clashes. Cheers! --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 11:15, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- [2] Who added, where? GevHev4 (talk) 18:46, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- Dear @GevHev4:, please check the casualties section, you can find it there. And I was the one to add that info. Cheers! --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 19:00, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- No, you're not right. The info you mention was added by me and then moved by you. You used this action to delete the other part of information (about the awarded living servicemen). Please read the text carefully, before taking actions. GevHev4 (talk) 19:11, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- @GevHev4:, then please move the info to the causalities section. Also, I didn't removed that part knowingly. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 19:27, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- Dear @GevHev4:, please check the casualties section, you can find it there. And I was the one to add that info. Cheers! --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 19:00, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- [2] Who added, where? GevHev4 (talk) 18:46, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
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- @GevHev4:, being a claimant, you have to get consensus before making any edits on the issue. Not me. Thus, you are the one to engage in an edit war. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 20:08, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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AA clashes
Hi. I'm afraid your new edits on 2020 Armenian–Azerbaijani clashes are dubious. So please discuss and achieve consensus before pushing august events to the article. Best, GevHev4 (talk) 11:06, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- GevHev4, see the talk page. Also, I'm not obliged to beg you permission for the edits I may or may not publish. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 12:06, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
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Please revert these to unreliable indian referenced edits from the infobox
[3] [4] Resapp (talk) 07:33, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
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Armenian claimed wounded # update
It is updated from 100 to 200 https://tass.com/world/1205791 can you update the infobox thnx. Resapp (talk) 13:55, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Unbalanced use of words at the casualties section.
In Armenia's claims drones are written as "shot down" and tanks as "destroyed" but for Azerbaijan claims it says drones are "lost" and tanks are "lost" can you make it same for both? I prefer shot down and destroyed for both thanks. Resapp (talk) 14:15, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Azerbaijan claims to have captured Fuzuli (city)
Can you add this to the Azerbaijan statement regarding territory? I've made the code which includes the reference here:
Azerbaijan captured Fuzuli city, Mt. Murovdag and 7 villages (per Azerbaijan)[1][2]
I also changed the mountain into its proper name with article, Murovdag. Resapp (talk) 16:42, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
- Resapp, only Turkish news agencies like A Haber and TRT World have published these information. No confirmation from the ministry of defence. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 16:45, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hmm you are right we should wait for official announcement. But can you change the mountain name to Murovdag? Its important to know that its this strategic mountain. Resapp (talk) 16:46, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
- Oh and another request, can you remove the word "Purporting" from under 4 images released by Azerbaijan? It is a non allowed word per MOS:ACCUSED. A user added it and did not revert despite warning. Resapp (talk) 16:48, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
An Armenian Major General and two colonels killed today per Azerbaijan
Maybe add this somewhere in the article ? https://en.trend.az/scaucasus/armenia/3307046.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Resapp (talk • contribs) 19:30, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Armenia claims Turkish troops are fighting together with Azerbaijan
Maybe add Turkey flag under Azerbaijan flag? Resapp (talk) 08:56, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Arab News and Reuters
Neither of the sources you keep using do not support the claim that there are Armenians from Syria fighting in the conflict. The only reference you use is some Azeri news agency. If they do, please use a quotation, but I just don't see it. Read it three times. --Governor Sheng (talk) 17:15, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
- Governor Sheng, I've commented on the issue here. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 17:18, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
- Replied. --Governor Sheng (talk) 17:20, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
- Governor Sheng, here are some quotes:
- Replied. --Governor Sheng (talk) 17:20, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Defense Ministry spokesman Anar Eyvazov said in a statement that some of the dead bodies found among the casualties of the Armenian army were determined to be mercenaries of Armenian origin who came from Syria.
Azerbaijan's chief of press services, Col. Vagif Dargahli, said in a statement on Monday that the Armenian Army has enlisted Armenian mercenaries from Syria and other Middle Eastern countries. Basing his remarks on the intelligence information, the colonel stated that using mercenaries enables Armenia to hide the real number of losses. "Since they (the mercenaries) are not officially registered in Armenia, the enemy easily hides these losses," Dargahli expressed.
"There are mercenaries of Armenian origin from Syria and different countries of the Middle East among the losses of the enemy," The Chief of the Press Service, Colonel Vagif Dargahli said, APA reports.
— APA.az
I hope this is enough. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 17:21, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but it seems to me you keep missing the point. The claim itself is not a problem, however, misusing the sources that do not even mention such a claim is wrong. --Governor Sheng (talk) 17:23, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
- Governor Sheng, I will edit accordingly. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 17:28, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Signature
Hi there. Per the policy about images in signatures, images are not allowed to be used. Can you please remove the Gadsden flag? --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 20:19, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
- Guerillero, sure thing. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 20:39, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Armenia did not announce casualties for yesterday or today!
Please add next to 85 killed that it is between 27-28 september like this (27-28 September) Resapp (talk) 10:15, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Turkey claims 300 PKK fighters crossed into Armenia from Iran
Maybe add this under alleged combatants in the infobox? Ref:[6] Resapp (talk) 11:38, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
- Resapp, will do. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 11:50, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Ukraine supports territorial integrity of Azerbaijan
Maybe add this to the article? :) [7] Resapp (talk) 12:37, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
- Resapp, not 100% sure if "supporting the territorial integrity" means supporting Azerbaijan for the clashes. Please, apply to the article's talk page. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 12:55, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
14 Azerbaijani civilian deaths
Although the image is really small, that's fine. But why did you revert my edit (sourced to the BBC) which updated the number of Armenian civilian dead [8]? I would ask that you cancel your revert. Thanks in advance! EkoGraf (talk) 13:53, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Please reinstall the international reactions map
There is clear consensus for inclusion of the 3 countries, 5 users support vs 1 opposed at the talk page. Resapp (talk) 07:44, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- Resapp, I have added this made two times, and it was then removed. Clearly, there is no unanimous support for the inclusion of this map. Please, refer to a different editor on this issue. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 08:09, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- The editors removing it are sockpuppets there are at least 7 Armenian socks right now. I suspect there are up to 12. Please ignore the socks. Resapp (talk) 08:55, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
Political figures
Please add the two leaders statements in the "political figures" section. Armenians have added leaders' statements only critical of Azerbaijan to section and it is POV. These should balance it. Resapp (talk) 09:10, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan called Armenia the 'biggest threat to regional peace' and lamented the international community's "double standards" by not condemning Armenian aggression.[3]
- Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan said that he supported Azerbaijan right to self defense.[4] Resapp (talk) 09:10, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
Removal of Turkic Counsil statement calling Armenia to leave occupied territories.
A user has removed the statement which called for Armenia to leave the occupied territories. [9] Resapp (talk) 09:29, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
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Salam
Your recent edit is wrong. It says: "... from May 12, 1994, when the ceasefire signed until today, 398 Azerbaijani servicemen". Not this conflict. Beshogur (talk) 13:01, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Beshogur, yes, I saw it and immediately reverted. But still thanks for the heads up. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 13:02, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
4000 Ermeni askeri öldü, kaynak: Bild
Bunu "other sources" per Armenia bölümüne ekle. [5] — Preceding unsigned comment added by BakhtiyarRamazan (talk • contribs) 10:49, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Bild'in WP:RSP'de güvenilir kaynak olmadığı belirtiliyor. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 11:18, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Status update: Editing 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh conflict
Be good. Johncdraper (talk) 21:52, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
October 2020
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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Imamzadeh (Ganja), you may be blocked from editing. The claim by the Azeri government regarding damage to the mosque has not been confirmed, yet you readded the sentence on the page that presents it as a confirmed fact. You've participated in the discussion on the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh conflict talk page regarding the mosque before - the pro-Azeri source has not been re-reported and the event has not been confirmed by third-party sources yet. If you find neutral and reliable sources that report that the mosque was hit - that is another matter. AntonSamuel (talk) 15:59, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Why remove the info as a whole? You can ce that text to imply that it is a claim by the local authorities; but you insist on removing such a vital information. And also, don't try to act liek an admin for Pete's sake, you're still a contributor with disputed edits that have been reverted before and spamming warnings to someone's talk page ain't going to help anyone. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 01:01, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- I believe that I've followed the standard procedure for dealing with disruptive editing on Wikipedia, and I'm prepared to defend my reverts/edits - I believe they were quite justified. Even though there has been a debate on the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh conflict talk page regarding the mosque that you've taken part in, and users have been asked to provide neutral and reliable sources to confirm that the mosque was indeed targeted, this has still not been provided. I've rewritten the passage now on the page instead of removing it completely to reflect that it's a government claim and removed it from the lede as such material is inappropriate there per WP:LEDE. If you can find sources that substantiate the claim, please provide them, otherwise I think the removal of the claim is appropriate per WP:NPOV. I would also ask you to maintain civility, if you have a problem with my edits and actions - go ahead and criticize them, show good faith and focus less on me as an editor please. AntonSamuel (talk) 06:50, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Contact
Hello! I was wondering if there any way I can contact you outside of Wikipedia? (e.g. discord (preferred), mail and etc.) — CuriousGolden (talk·contrib) 14:04, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- @CuriousGolden:, hi, I've emailed you my Facebook account. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 16:17, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
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October 2020
Hello Solivarium, could you care explaining why you errased and dont moved the edit made here. Im really getting tired of your POV editing and Bias. You have been warned before and blocked but this is really insultant. Your edits are simply IDONTLIKEIT.Mr.User200 (talk) 02:34, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- Mr.User200, okay. First of all, WP:ASSUMEGOODFAITH and WP:CIVIL. Secondly, I've literally explained my edit here. As you saw in the "Civilian causalities section", we are not detailing info on civilian causalities. Seriously, putting "a mother and his son with a disability" in the forefront is to victimize a party. There are kids dying from the both sides, but foreshadowing Armenian civilian deaths are more important? We've discussed this before in the talk page. Also, if I was biased, and edited accordingly to the WP:IDONTLIKEIT, I wouldn't have added statements from the Armenian side too. Before accusing someone of being something, and using a mentoring tone on someone, get your stuff together and reconsider it before publishing. This is not the first time you're doing this, and it is getting ridiculous. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 08:36, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- Yes but you reverted instead of moving to civilians losses. Its obvious you want to promote a point of view and you use some guidelines to play your game.I will only tell you that there are sanctions and try to keep your personal beliefs out of this and other articles.Mr.User200 (talk) 12:17, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- You also claimed that the sources provided are not official ones. But this is not true since both are Armenian official media and have been used to report other events regarding civilian casualties on the article content and have not been errased by you or other editor. So what are you talking about??. You simply errase what you dont want or like and use stock argumemts at your will.Mr.User200 (talk) 12:27, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- "Its obvious you want to promote a point of view and you use some guidelines to play your game". This line is enough for me to understand that you are not interested with leveled and well-formed discussion, and still continue to accuse other editors of being biased or POV-pushing, and violate guidelines. I'm still adding them though, if you haven't read them yet, WP:ASSUMEGOODFAITH, and WP:CIVIL. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 12:31, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- P.S. you've added that there where REPORTS from the media, that's not an official statement. You can check report.az and APA.az for reports by 'Azerbaijani official media', which I haven't been adding for the same exact reason. "You simply errase what you dont want or like and use stock argumemts at your will", you still won't end your stagy and accusative rhetoric. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 12:31, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- Mr.User200, this will be my last response to you, as you won't end your uncivil remarks. If you have a problem, check the administrator's noticeboard, where I should have reported you in the first place. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 12:33, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- Armenpress is the main state media of Armenia so all you speak about Official sources, is once again, not true.Mr.User200 (talk) 17:57, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- Mr.User200, do not distort facts here. Check every single Armenpress reference I've added to the article, you can see that EVERY SINGLE REPORT cites a governmental body's official statement, whether it is the President of Artsakh, the Armenian MoD, or any other. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 18:09, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
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Nomination of International reactions to the July 2020 Armenian–Azerbaijani clashes for deletion
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Discussion
Solavirum, I would kindly ask that you please undue your edit here [10] and join the discussion at the talk page here [11]. Your edit undid my compromise proposal, taking into account Staberinde's insistence that the figure should not be included as an additional Armenian claim, plus in a separate section, for which I myself had also already voiced reservations earlier in the discussion. A source has also been added for the "documented" figure as "per Armenia". Not seeing how its redundant if its a totally different figure from the one "claimed". As can be seen, after I made the compromise proposal, Staberinde made no more attempts at removing the info. EkoGraf (talk) 18:44, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- @EkoGraf:, ah, here we go again. Staberinde did not join the discussion in the talk page so stuff that happened between you two was not concluded with a discussion. "Staberinde made no more attempts at removing the info" is just your own assumption. As for why I removed the "documented" part, I have never ever seen such style of infobox in my three years of active work on Wikipedia. Try to reach to a consensus, then work it out there. For now, I will remove the "documented" thing from the infobox, because it is redundant. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 18:51, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
2020 Nagorno-Karabakh conflict
Please check the Ceasefire section and ceasefire violations timeline for accuracy on this page. Johncdraper (talk) 14:27, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
Defense pacts
I would like to know more about "see the attack on Nakhchivan which could also trigger Turkey's 100 year old agreement over the region's defense". Would you oblige? Johncdraper (talk) 14:33, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Johncdraper:, the status of Nakhchivan was determined by the Moscow Treaty of 16 March 1921. With this treaty, it was decided that Nakhchivan (under the protection of Azerbaijan) should be an autonomous region. In addition, the Soviet Union and Turkey, the countries have been the guarantors of Nakhchivan. Which means that Turkey has legitimate right to retaliate. In 1992, Azerbaijani leadership were divided between Azerbaijan proper (Abulfaz Elchibey) and Nakhchivan (Heydar Aliyev; who would later overthrow Elchibey). The Armenian forces attacked Nakhchivan, which caused a political crisis between Armenia and Turkey. At the end, with the meditation of US, a ceasefire treaty was signed between Nakhchivan and Armenia. So, yeah, that is what I was talking about. Here are some sources: 1, 2; and a news article by Yeni Şafak. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 14:48, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
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Hadrut
What's the situation re the draft? Johncdraper (talk) 07:08, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
- Johncdraper, I'm thinking to merge Hadrut, Jabrayil, and Fuzuli into one. Because the Azerbaijani MoD generally refers to that front as the "Fuzuli-Hadrut-Jabrayil direction of the front", while the Armenian MoD refers to it as the "Southern front". --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 12:05, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
- Johncdraper, boom! It's done. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 19:22, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Please stop
I have been kind with you, from day one, but you keep answering me with antagonistic comments (lying). I wasn't aware that Tolish media was an Armenian owned site, I rely on google translate to render foreign words to search for, it does not cross my mind that hits I get on google in foreign languages that I don't comprehend have to be doublechecked from Facebook accounts from that languages, when most of the time, I have manually copy past the sequences to get them translated on Facebook. Besides, how can you claim proper burial, when there wasn't any proper ceasefire to recover bodies? And I wasn't only talking about families being left in the dark, but for the conscripts and the population who have no information on the cost of the war. Hemşinli çocuk 19:16, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
- Ermenermin, there are bodies within the territory controlled by Azerbaijan. Either killed by artillery, landmines, or the territory was captured after the soldier went KIA. It is very public at this point that the government isn't keeping the people in the dark, as the Tolish Media shows. There have been multiple discussion threads about the usage of so-called third-party sources like Tolish Media that were traced back to Yerevan. I don't know what you think, but it is not okay to bash these stuff like legitimate sources. People are dying tragically, mothers are weeping. I saw those things, I can't just let people making Wikipedia a victim of the cold-blooded informational warfare. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 19:20, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
- I think that you're taking this way too personally, besides I only read what interests me, if Tolish media was mentioned in those long discussions that I have not read, I then missed that. Hemşinli çocuk 19:29, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Hey- I have just added a 20th century map on the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh conflict page. That map can be clipped to focus in on specific contested areas like another map I uploaded was here: [12]. Let me know if you need a better map or a map of a different area to "bring to life" the geography on the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh conflict page. Geographyinitiative (talk) 16:19, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Geographyinitiative, thank you for your contributions! I will try to find better use of that map if possible. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 16:28, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
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Hello Solivarium, sorry for my edit on 2020 Nagorno Karabakh regarding the Human Rghts page, I compared pre - cur rversions and restored without reading your edit summary. Also on the Azerbaijani Coronel killed dont read your edit summary since the page was moved. My apologies.Mr.User200 (talk) 15:25, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- Mr.User200, alrighty. Things happen sometimes. Anyways, so, about the colonel. Yes, he got KIA. But not during the operations along the Aras River. There is an offensive to Laçın from Qubadlı, along the southern Armenia–Azerbaijan border. He got killed in during those operations, not Aras. The article needs more splitting, and once Aras is done, I will head over to split the Qubadli–Lachin too. Cheers! --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 15:54, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Warnings issued to Civilians of Ganja on 4th of October
Hey @Solavirum:. As per John's suggestion, here is the edit that I am suggesting this:
On 4 October 2020, Arayik Harutyunyan's, the de facto Republic of Artsakh's president, issued a warning to the Azerbaijani army and civilians for the latter to leave Ganja, claiming that military facilities permanently located there have been targeting civilians in Stepanakert using Polonez and Smerch missiles (sources 1,2,3,4,5)
I would like to add this in the Background section, if not in the intro section of the Ganja article, and in the timeline of the Conflict article. You have said it has no place in the Background section here without explaining why.
The question of the warning is very important, as I'm sure you know there is a controversy about it in relation to the Khojaly massacres
Could we also agree to talk, discuss and engage with each other's arguments/sources as usual on Wikipedia before you go and revert any of my edits? I'm open to discussing anything. Also, if there is a discussion about a certain topic, please don't unilaterally make edits before agreement is reached. Thank you--Sataralynd (talk) 02:16, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- Sataralynd actually I have explained it twice. I've removed it from the background and added to the first attack. Because his "warning" came right after New Bazaar was bombed in Ganja. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 10:58, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Solavirum:Understand. Why it cannot be included in the background? There were as per the article 4 attacks in total. Why is it just because it happened after the first attack in cannot be in the background section? Would you also care to address the rest of my comment?--Sataralynd (talk) 11:57, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- Sataralynd because the background section covers the stuff happened before the attacks, not after it. Also, I don't think it is too major of a thing to include in the lead, as you see, the lead section is concise. Plus, we're already trying to reduce the timeline section of the main article (but it seems like nobody is doing the first move). --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 12:23, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- First and foremost, I have added the edits back in. Please don't remove before this discussion is concluded. I have also added a sentence in the lead, again given the importance of the topic. Anything to discuss, we first do it here before you unilaterally change the page.
- Who says the background sentence should only include information that precedes the start of the attack? Any sources or policies? And even if we suppose so, as I said before, the warning preceded the 2nd, 3rd and 4th attacks, so your (non)argument doesn't apply. Please refrain from vague statements like "too major of a thing". As I told you before, there is a huge controversy about the topic of warnings in the case of Khojaly (read about it in the Wikipedia article of Khojaly massacres if you please), and it is key information. Thanks for reminding me to include it in the lead as well.
- Sataralynd because the background section covers the stuff happened before the attacks, not after it. Also, I don't think it is too major of a thing to include in the lead, as you see, the lead section is concise. Plus, we're already trying to reduce the timeline section of the main article (but it seems like nobody is doing the first move). --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 12:23, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Solavirum:Understand. Why it cannot be included in the background? There were as per the article 4 attacks in total. Why is it just because it happened after the first attack in cannot be in the background section? Would you also care to address the rest of my comment?--Sataralynd (talk) 11:57, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
I reiterate, no change in the article on the warnings topic before we discuss here. I am happy to take this to a larger forum if you don't comply. Thank you--Sataralynd (talk) 16:28, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Salam
Hi Solavirum, we need to get organized to edit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nagorno-Karabakh_conflict as most of information there is bias and not including Azerbaijani side. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mirhasanov (talk • contribs) 18:28, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- Mirhasanov, aleykum salam. I don't know what do you mean by "organized", but you can always ask for edits in the article's talk page here. But I'd like to remind you that providing reliable sources and factual arguments are necessary. Have a good day. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 18:32, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Solavirum Sure, therefore I need your help to get organized. I tried edit things several times in Wikipedia. Tried follow all rules but somehow admins act bias and protect only those who wrote in Wikipedia for a long time. I saw your discussion with CuriousGolden. Can we have a skype meeting?
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