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Do you mind giving your opinion on the talk page of [[prophet]]? Thanks [[User:Pass a Method|<font color="grey" face="Tahoma">Pass a Method</font>]] [[User talk:Pass a Method|<font color="grey" face="papyrus">talk</font>]] 09:25, 17 October 2013 (UTC) |
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National Spiritual Assembly
I changed a link from National Assembly to National Spiritual Assembly to disambiguate it. National Assembly is generally not a useful link in articles about the Bahai' Faith. Ground Zero | t 01:55, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
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- wow - I had no idea commercial use was ok. Smkolins (talk) 00:11, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
- Here's another Baha'i Faith in Haiti (Paperback) Smkolins (talk) 12:26, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Reply from List of converts to Bahá'í from Christianity
- Perhaps "List of converts to the Bahá'í Faith from Christianity" which fixes a few issues with the current title.
- This list is a specialization of both another list and a groups - List of Bahá'ís, Category:Bahá'ís by nationality and Category:Converts to the Bahá'í Faith - just want to be sure this is integrated well and balanced with the other article/groups.
- List of Bahá'ís lists all Bahá'ís, regardless of previous (if any) religion, same as Category:Bahá'ís by nationality. Category:Converts to the Bahá'í Faith is equal to this list (and as such, should contain every well-referenced article in that category). As far as the nomenclature, I'd happily rename it something easier, unfortunately List of converts to the Bahá'í faith from Christianity is a bit awkward. I don't see any issue with the title, perhaps you could elaborate?.. Thanks! Ncboy2010 (talk) 17:07, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not saying there is direct competition among the articles/cats - just that there should be development in context with eachother. Wasn't sure you saw those.
- List of Bahá'ís lists all Bahá'ís, regardless of previous (if any) religion, same as Category:Bahá'ís by nationality. Category:Converts to the Bahá'í Faith is equal to this list (and as such, should contain every well-referenced article in that category). As far as the nomenclature, I'd happily rename it something easier, unfortunately List of converts to the Bahá'í faith from Christianity is a bit awkward. I don't see any issue with the title, perhaps you could elaborate?.. Thanks! Ncboy2010 (talk) 17:07, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- As for the name - saying "List of converts to Bahá'í from Christianity" would be grammatically equivalent to saying "List of converts from Christian to the Baha'i Faith". The word choice is not parallel. The name of the religion, like "Christianity" is "Bahá'í Faith". Saying "Bahá'í faith" uses "faith" in another sense based on the same confusion. Baha'i is an adjective, not a noun but "Bahá'í faith" should be used in naming a series or describing the religion (Christian, Baha'i, Muslim or Islamic faiths, it would be awkward to say Christianity faith for example.) Clearer? Smkolins (talk) 17:14, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
The Baha'i Faith in St. Lucia
I am working on the page article for Wikipedia. Thank you for being the editor and giving advice. I have the piece written out and am working on it in a Word.dox as well. Why can I not access it to edit it further? How do I include photos? How do I include the side bar that is for instance in the page for "The Baha'i Faith in Barbados". How to insert the links? I saved it and yet it does not appear when I type in search. Is it like a web page that takes about 2 to 3 weeks to show up in search engines? I am .up on working on Wikipedia pages and am therefore looking for the quick assistance to begin to accomplish these tasks with the article. Keith R. Bloodworth, I am of course wishing to turn it into a professional worthwhile article and know it is only at its' very first stages Thank you for editing Keith — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keith R. Bloodworth (talk • contribs) 15:26, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
- In steps Keith - in steps. Work in the sandbox as I said and you can even get help in there. It's *purpose* is to learn how to use the editing tools as well as implement the standards of wikipedia. The changes if done right show up in seconds usually. Smkolins (talk) 15:35, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
I don't understand the list of Manifestations of God according to wikipedia. But there are other questions of religious neutrality also at issue here, such as preferring AD and BC over the scholarly historians' CE and BCE, that I am not following. Why is Zoroaster being excluded from mention? Is this a popularity contest?Julzes (talk) 14:34, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
- He is obscure to most readers, and it's an introductory section. The listing should be brief an illustrative, not exhaustive and tiring. Interested readers follow links to articles focused on subjects. That is why there are other articles. Consisteny is a process and wikipedia has many poking at it in all kinds of ways. Smkolins (talk) 14:37, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, I don't know. It seems that the first (known or automatically included by Baha'is? I don't really know the faith's position on whether the list has other lesser Manifestations of God (I should and may be trekking to either Chicago or Israel some time soon), but I thought Zoroaster is just the one preceding Abraham and the list tallies to 8 (including the other now not in edit)) should be included, and I don't know how obscure. Editors get to write the article the way we/they/you/whatever want to, and I guess I will refrain from editing it myself (again) for a while at least.Julzes (talk) 04:19, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
- Well consider that thousands see it every day and it's been a FA article. If many thought it was wrong it would be changed constantly. Instead this kind of change has been trickling in. Yes there are people who know better but as I say there are diverse articles about many issues - it all doesn't have to be or should be in this one article. But of course we do want to make the article better. I've looked for exhaustive lists of prophets recognized as such - there are various works - but there is no authoritative complete list perse. I would also say there's a ton of work out there to do from going through the articles combined into the book to make them each better to the list of country articles which so far hasn't reached the half way mark despite years of effort....Smkolins (talk) 10:15, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
Okay. Saying it has been the way it is now and somewhat the way I suggest both at different times and that it was once an FA article, though, seems, well, to say nothing about which or what is preferable. But, okay, you know it more. The Oxford Encyclopedia of World Religions does include Zoroaster, but that is no proof of what should or should not be in the front article of wikipedia.Julzes (talk) 17:19, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
- Indeed - what is proof? Is there some substantial other reason you know of? Someone who picks up a encyclopedia of some limited access might bring more of a focus than general access one. While this isn't the first time this has come I think that it's small part of the overall picture. Indeed I think the fact that thousands of people hit it a day and don't call for changes and it's status inside wikipedia as a well developed article speak well to it being "good" the way it is. That being said of course evolution should continue. Perhaps if something from Zoroastrianism catches public awareness or something else comes along worthy of note ... the idea to me is _not_ that change is to be stopped but that change should be more than about personal opinion. Smkolins (talk) 18:17, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, I don't know that people popping in to read the article on Baha'i not wanting to request a change means what you infer. This is unlikely to be a major issue, though, so long as Zoroaster is little other than some ancient figure to a vast number of people, as you rightly say. And there is no reason we should expect something written in the method that wikipedia is to be balanced; just like the Soviet Union where it was perfectly safe to just be an objective mathematician or physicist, but watch out about history or economics.Julzes (talk) 00:09, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
I'm being a bit facetious here, of course. That last remark could justifiably easily offend an enormous number of people. But there is a question of a kind of mob rule here at wikipedia. Plus, apathy with regard to editing or even reading carefully enough to have an objection could easily prevent the number of hits without requested changes from meaning what you infer.17:31, 9 May 2012 (UTC)Julzes (talk)
Bahai symbols
Hi. Thanks for pointing me to the WikiProject bahai. I was wondering if you could help me. Do you know of a better rendering of the Greatest Name at Greatest_Name#The_Greatest_Name? --Steinninn 14:54, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- I've seen various forms here and there but that seems a good rendition and is very commonly used. Smkolins (talk) 19:14, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Re: Baha'i Temple
The Baha'i House of Worship in Wilmette is usually called "Baha'i Temple." My grandmother lives in this area and I usually see this temple! Thanks for pointing that out! OZODOR (talk) 03:59, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- Nice I'm sure. And I'm sure some use the word. Temple is more accessible to a wider audience perhaps since Jews and Mormons and others tend to use that word so it fits the idea of an alternative name to "church". But that doesn't mean Baha'is or a majority of others use it. A brief google search shows both terms being used and used for other sites too. But I'd say an easy majority of the usage is "House of Workship". Smkolins (talk) 10:05, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
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Bahá'í Faith in Vietnam
Hey—just wanted to let you know that I've gone through and done a big rewrite of Bahá'í Faith in Vietnam, adding a lot of new information and references. Feel free to check it out (and perhaps correct any mistakes that may have slipped through)! --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 17:05, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
- I saw - interesting! I'll check more sometime soon - been back and forth on many things. Interesting about Drefus! Always more coming to light! Smkolins (talk) 18:06, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
- Looks like Bahá'í_Faith_by_country#Vietnam needs some attention. Normally I copy the lead paragraph which is also why I set the master refs with names there so it's easy. Smkolins (talk) 18:09, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
- Overall I'd say good job. A few small things here and there I or another might poke at mostly syntax or grammar or usage but overall nice work I'd say. If there are things that still attract my eyes later I'll poke at them and or see about the talk page there. Smkolins (talk) 22:25, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
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Sources
Do the highest quality and most recent sources describe the Baha'i Faith as a small or major religion? Pass a Method talk 17:08, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
- I would say they split the difference - noting it's moderate/small size but more than occasionally listed along with the "big three" and more often than most other religions. For a more familiar example consider Judaism. Numerically it's very small. But it's relationship and position relative to Christianity and Islam, as well as the prominence of Israel in world affairs and engagement of Jews in a wide variety of projects. In much the same way the Baha'i Faith is often, not universally, mentioned along side far larger religions despite it's relative youth. As few as a few decades ago this was kind of listing was rare so older sources or sources using only older reference will not mention the religion. However many newer high quality sources will. --Smkolins (talk) 17:31, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
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I am not sure how I can contact you in private message, but I have a question
Why do you follow the Baha'i faith?
Thanks المتخصص (talk • contribs) 23:54, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Why does it matter to you? Also please "sign" your messages yourself - the ~~~~ is rendered as a signature for you. --Smkolins (talk) 00:08, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
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Bahai in the Chatham Islands (Rekohu is Moriori name for 1,000 years and Wharekarui is Maori from 1835)
Will be interested to work with you on this project. Your work on Bahai in New Zealand is very good. I lived on the Chatham Island 1995-96 125.237.148.60 (talk) 10:56, 6 August 2013 (UTC) [Chathams http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatham_Islands] Perhaps start with a section on Religion on the chatham Island page with some census data?
- I would welcome someone working on improving the article. Perhaps signup for an account? Yes census data is certainly relevant though usually census' are blamed for under reporting segments of population it could balance sources that might over state populations. --Smkolins (talk) 11:33, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
September 2013
Hello, this is minissa. I had tried to update the "Persecution of Baha'is" section back in late May/early June and didn't notice that I had messages on my request to help format my citations properly. So it looks like another editor just reverted the info when I didn't reply, which means the info in this article regarding numbers of who is in jail in Iran (or awaiting trial, etc) is really out of date as of at least June, 2013. My source for my exact numbers was Anthony Vance, director of the Baha'i Office of Public Information in Washington, whom I guess is as straight from the horse's mouth as one can get in the USA. His info was this: "as of May, 2013, 116 were imprisoned but at least another 448 are awaiting trial or sentencing. Some are deprived of any communication with others, and have not had formal charges laid; in recent months in Semnan, mothers with nursing infants as young as 1 month of age have been imprisoned." I think the problem was that I signed the update (which I thought you were supposed to do) but I guess that made it look like I was the source, or was sourcing myself, although on the talk page I clearly said I was trying to source a formal statement from Vance and didn't know quite how to do that. I can run over to some of the genocide watch sites and see if their info is current and then cite them if that would be better. I just hate to see this inaccurate info sitting under "current situation" when there's better info from a reliable source, even if that source happens to be primary, and when recent news now includes a religiously-motivated murder, a letter from the female Evin inmates to the new president of Iran, the summer elections, new legislation in our own House and Senate, and so on. Can you steer me in just getting these statistics updated? The editor who actually reverted the info lists as being on an extended vacation, and you were the one other who commented (plus looks like you keep abreast of Baha'i affairs). Thanks!Minissa (talk) 00:53, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
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Major 3 Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) or Major 4 ?
dear friend every body is free to define a new topic in talk page. so if you want to participate, don't edit lines inside my lines. write your lines below and at end of the page. by your way of editing It will be unreadable soon. please correct your edits and take your lines out of mine. thanks regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki hamze (talk • contribs) 11:00, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- Since you are new to wikipedia you should learn how people do things rather than presume you know what is right. That has been a problem of yours since the beginning.--Smkolins (talk) 11:54, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
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3rd opinion
Do you mind giving your opinion on the talk page of prophet? Thanks Pass a Method talk 09:25, 17 October 2013 (UTC)