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::Thanks for checking that out. I do feel sympathetic towards the user, as I'd be just as upset if some of my work was up for deletion too. But like you pointed out, he does seem to be uncompromising or perhaps misunderstanding the concept about templates on a larger scale. I have opened discussion on the [[WT:EURO|project page]] listing all the templates he's made and the same list of originals currently in use. Hopefully redirecting the discussion there will avert him from lunging provocative attacks on me - but I won't be holding my breath that it would. Anyhow, I have issued enough warnings to ask that he cease using arrogance towards me, so he can;t say I haven't warned him in the event that I need to submit a complaint further. [[User:Wesley Mouse|<font color="DarkSlateBlue" face="Tahoma">'''Wesley'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Wesley_Mouse|<font color="OrangeRed">☀</font>]][[User talk:Wesley Mouse|<font color="SaddleBrown" face="Tahoma">'''''Mouse'''''</font>]] 18:33, 5 March 2012 (UTC) |
::Thanks for checking that out. I do feel sympathetic towards the user, as I'd be just as upset if some of my work was up for deletion too. But like you pointed out, he does seem to be uncompromising or perhaps misunderstanding the concept about templates on a larger scale. I have opened discussion on the [[WT:EURO|project page]] listing all the templates he's made and the same list of originals currently in use. Hopefully redirecting the discussion there will avert him from lunging provocative attacks on me - but I won't be holding my breath that it would. Anyhow, I have issued enough warnings to ask that he cease using arrogance towards me, so he can;t say I haven't warned him in the event that I need to submit a complaint further. [[User:Wesley Mouse|<font color="DarkSlateBlue" face="Tahoma">'''Wesley'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Wesley_Mouse|<font color="OrangeRed">☀</font>]][[User talk:Wesley Mouse|<font color="SaddleBrown" face="Tahoma">'''''Mouse'''''</font>]] 18:33, 5 March 2012 (UTC) |
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:::Hello Sims. I could not sit in silence while someone aggressively incitements against me. I would like, as I'm sure you are objective about this issue, to ask from this user to put his claims to the officials and return to professional level when it comes to other users or public discussions. You might want to look at the [[WT:EURO|project page]] page and see that I'm clearly trying to decrease the focus on these personal issues, and not play the game he made up for the two of us (and maybe you might see that as opposed to what this user made you believe, I am open for compromise if it is a professional and not personal discussion). Thanks--[[User:123o|123o]] ([[User talk:123o|talk]]) 21:49, 6 March 2012 (UTC) |
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== Just wanted to say a BIG thank you == |
== Just wanted to say a BIG thank you == |
Revision as of 21:49, 6 March 2012
Austrian language details on Eurovision Song Contest 2012 article
Hi Sims, there is currently a discussion going on at Talk:Eurovision_Song_Contest_2012#Austria_language_choice regarding the language details for Austria. Initially the article had the language down as 'German', then changed to 'Bavarian' by yourself, only to be changed again to 'Central Bavarian'. However, the Eurovision.tv website have the language choice detailed as being a dialect from the Mühlviertel region of Austria. As you have been altering the language for this, I was wondering if you'd be so kind as to participate in the talk page discussion, to assist in finding a consensus as to how we should list the language details. Thanks - Wesley☀Mouse 01:25, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
- I can see this language grey area becoming the most complex one in the history of ESC. There's a video interview from the EBU (posted on Youtube) which now classify the language as Mühlviertelian, this is a complete difference to having it listed on these articles as Bavarian. Is it possible to have a dialect that hasn't had an article created for it? Wesley☀Mouse 16:22, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
- While we are waiting for others input on Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2012, would you mind casting eyes over another mini-debate over a new reliable source at Talk:Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2012. Thanks mate! I'll get the beers in while you have a gander at that little beauty on JESC. Wesley☀Mouse 20:30, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Sims, not sure if you are online or not. I left a reply at Talk:Eurovision 2012 about this Austrian thing. The plot thickens even more, to the extent that I'm wondering now if we should get someone from project linguistics, languages, or both involved. There are too many contradicting factors in all the articles we are finding that it creates an everlasting loop-hole, and we're not getting anywhere to resolve things quicker. The link you provided at Talk:ESC2012 provided an interesting list of vocab/spelling differneces. However, further down the same article is goes on to classify Standard German as being an Austrian Dialect - this contradict the opening sentence which states (Standard) German is the official language. And not only that, the article isogloss comes out with something completely different that we haven't even touched on whatsoever. This wikiarticle stipulates that German language is in Germany, and this chapter advises when to seek professional help. So with all the confusion from wiki's own articles, I do believe getting the 'big guns' from Linguistics or Languages involved is the only way to find a resolution in all of this. Wesley☀Mouse 00:51, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
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Wesley☀Mouse 14:52, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
A favour is required
Sims, Could you do me a favour please while I am busily making mass-alterations? Keep an eye on my talk page, and answer any questions that User123o posts on there. Thanks dude! Wesley☀Mouse 23:35, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
- WHOA! You've removed information from Eurovision Song Contest 1973 that was already in there before this whole debacle. Can't go removing stuff now just coz you feel like it. Its almost like you're now trolling my every movement that I'm doing - sooo not impressed. Wesley☀Mouse 23:50, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
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Good Evening Sims, hope all is well with you today. I was wondering if you could cast eyes on a few comments posted on my talk page by User:123o regarding templates. Not if I'm over-reacting, but I'm almost 99.9% certain that the user is purposely posting comments of an uncivil and provoking nature, despite my several attempts to converse clearly and politely as possible. Only reason I ask for your view is because if the user is doing what I think, then the next time I may have to take matters further and lodge an official complaint about his behaviour. Thanks - Wesley☀Mouse 18:17, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- Eveing Wes. Having read was User:123o has put I can say that he has been quite irratic and perhaps even provocative in nature. I wouldn't say he's uncivil, he may be just trying to get his point across, but he does seem to be quite unrelenting, so perhaps you could say uncivil. I do agree with you that the original templates should take precendence, and his subsequent templates really don't make much sense when combined with the current templates and the country pages as well. Since he doesn't seem open for any compromise at all I think taking it further and reporting him may be the only solution I'm afraid to say. Sims2aholic8 (Michael) (talk) 18:26, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking that out. I do feel sympathetic towards the user, as I'd be just as upset if some of my work was up for deletion too. But like you pointed out, he does seem to be uncompromising or perhaps misunderstanding the concept about templates on a larger scale. I have opened discussion on the project page listing all the templates he's made and the same list of originals currently in use. Hopefully redirecting the discussion there will avert him from lunging provocative attacks on me - but I won't be holding my breath that it would. Anyhow, I have issued enough warnings to ask that he cease using arrogance towards me, so he can;t say I haven't warned him in the event that I need to submit a complaint further. Wesley☀Mouse 18:33, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
- Hello Sims. I could not sit in silence while someone aggressively incitements against me. I would like, as I'm sure you are objective about this issue, to ask from this user to put his claims to the officials and return to professional level when it comes to other users or public discussions. You might want to look at the project page page and see that I'm clearly trying to decrease the focus on these personal issues, and not play the game he made up for the two of us (and maybe you might see that as opposed to what this user made you believe, I am open for compromise if it is a professional and not personal discussion). Thanks--123o (talk) 21:49, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Just wanted to say a BIG thank you
The Teamwork Barnstar | ||
I award you this collection of miniature partying barnstars, to show my appreciation with helping in a looooong and tiresome ordeal we called "The Austrian Language Debacle". Together we managed to find a compromising solution, which works perfectly. And also for the help to implement the compromised outcome onto the List of languages in the Eurovision Song Contest articles. Wesley☀Mouse 02:07, 5 March 2012 (UTC) |