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Thanking you in advance, Gregory L. Chester 17:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:GregLChest|GregLChest]] ([[User talk:GregLChest|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GregLChest|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
Thanking you in advance, Gregory L. Chester 17:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:GregLChest|GregLChest]] ([[User talk:GregLChest|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GregLChest|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I am sorry that this experience with the SpiderGraph article has been so difficult for you, but take a look at this direct quote of what you posted above: |
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::Do you remember my concerns to you last October, when Mabdul proved himself to be an Egotistial Bully, when I went to the Help Desk for the first time, and I hinted to you that someone may be trying to build a Power-play Kingdom on WP? (It's my belief, that when an unknown editor has life or death power over an article, one needs maturity to control one's ego or power can get out of hand!) Well, after that Help Desk incident, Mabdul put me on his Watch List. Since then, he has eliminated three sections of the SG article w/o explaining to me about the cause or giving suggestions to make it better! He also stated that he thought the SpiderGraph was a Radar chart, which I proved to him was wrong, but he still voted to delete it , along with adding 4 or 5 other comments during the Delete discussion. Then, I learned that Glrx became Delete Nominator of the article after talking to Mabdul, while he was asking Glrx for a RfA! (small world!) |
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:Now, maybe another editor might not be your favorite person, maybe their style is not to your liking, but Mabdul is a conscientious editor. Characterizing him as being "an Egotistial[Egotistical] Bully" as well as implying that there is something wrong with an editor maintaining a Watchlist? plus calling "CC" an "egotistical bully" and saying his editing was a "third-grade hack-job"?...I'm sorry, I don't understand why you think calling your fellow editors names on my talkpage will get you somewhere. I also don't understand why you think that participating in a Articles for Deletion discussion is cause for alarm and why you think editing any Wikipedia article requires anyone's permission...once material is written onto Wikipedia, *'''any'''* other person can edit it, content does not belong to the person who created it, it belongs to the community at large. |
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:In my opinion, from this article's earliest incarnations, the available references for the subject were always somewhat sparse and not completely sufficient to Wikipedia standards. As to your last sentence above?... "At the present time, the public has no low-cost, easy-to-use, universal method to aid in their process of making important Trade-off Decisions!"... this would seem to be incorrect. This Trade-off Decision-Making process of yours actually still exists, but the Wikipedia encyclopedia does not seem to be the best place for information about it to reside. I would suggest, with all the issues that your fellow editors have had with it that you find some other venue to publicize this decision-making method. As to restoring the previous draft content to your user space so you can perhaps improve it to Wikipedia standards, I am not an administrator and cannot take such an action. I tried to find a WikiProject that you could get involved with on other articles or that could assist you with trying to work up the SpiderGraph content into an article, [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Statistics|WikiProject Statistics]] might possibly be of some assistance. There are some administrators who participate in that WikiProject, perhaps one of them might be interested in restoring the deleted content to your user space. The participants are listed [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Statistics#Participants|here]]. Good luck, [[User:Shearonink|Shearonink]] ([[User talk:Shearonink#top|talk]]) 06:45, 4 July 2012 (UTC) |
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How to fix things at List of cycling...If you have time some feedback pleaseI am thinking of nominating List of cyclists with a cycling-related death for FLC sometime this fall. I've never nominated a List for FL before so if you could take a quick look to see if there's anything obvious that jumps out as being WRONG it would be very helpful. Just for a reference, this is what the List looked like when I first happened upon it back in July 2010. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 21:36, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
PresN - I think I've fixed many of the issues you pointed out.
Just waiting on some additional info from a collaborator with access to early 20th Century German-language references (hoping for some photos of some of the early cyclists, plus some specific referencing. If there's anything else that screams WRONG in the present version, please let me know. Thanks again, really appreciate all the help. Shearonink (talk) 21:51, 20 August 2019 (UTC) How to get at the URL info in an Introduction to a book, with pages that are roman numeralshttps://books.google.com/books?id=0-IUC00guXEC&pg=PR17#v=onepage&q&f=false mLive article about Bath School disaster PHOTOS from MICHIGAN (STATE?) HISTORICAL ARCHIVES22 things you may not have known about the 1927 Bath school massacre by Julie Mack | jmack1@mlive.com article dated May 10, 2017 April 2019 article Revisiting the 1927 Bath School DisasterA modern analysis of a historical pediatric disaster: the 1927 Bath school bombinghttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20471035 Okemos High School Alumni WebsiteWrite-up about Bath, lots of sources: http://www.okemosalumni.org/000/4/8/8/29884/userfiles/file/The%20Story%20of%20Bath%20by%20Sherrie%20Paty%20%2766%20edited.pdf Pertinent links for BSD FAC
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Arranged by MontroseArranged by Montrose - is this article correct? it is very confusing... Was wondering myself about the "and Jackson received schooling from two nearby priests" (especially that "nearby priests" part...) so I went hunting for when it was added to the article. It's been present in the Jackson article since April 2017 when it was added with this edit [2]. Does Wilentz's 2005 biography say *anything* specifically about Jackson's early schooling? If he did that could certainly be of interest...
Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 20:34, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
Surveying article ideas and references etc.
Wikidata stuffhttps://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1090177 That supposed "Theodore" Jackson?...HAHAHAHAHAHACTUAL November 1813 LETTER that Brands slightly misquotes...
men to destroy the Creek Town Talus,hatchey, [1] he has executed this order in elegant stile leaving dead on the field one hundred & seventy six, and taking 80, prisoners, forty prisoners was left on the ground many of them wounded, others to take care of them-since writing the above Genl Coffee reports 1 80, found dead, and there is no doubt but 200 was killed [2] -I have here forty two added to the thirty two heretofore captured & sent on to Huntsville, in all 74-1 have been and is still badly supplied with provisions, as soon as I can get a supply will proceed on to the heart of the creek nation-Mr Alexander and Jack Donelson [3] were both in the action are safe & behaved like what I could wish & expected, all friends safe, Capt Hammond had 5 of his men wounded-all behaved bravely and as I could wish-I send on a little Indian boy[4] for Andrew to Huntsville-with a request to Colo. Pope to take care of him untill he is sent on-all his family is destroyed-he is about the age of Theodore [5] -In haste your affectionate Husband Andrew Jackson ALS, MH-H.
Incorrect assertion not backed up by sources added here on January 20, 2012 by User:Rockgenre Revision as of 21:00, 20 January 2012 (edit) (undo) (thank)
Rockgenre (talk | contribs) ->edit summary->(Jackson actually had another adopted American Indian son named Theodore.)
but Brands then goes on to say:
All of the above is found on Page 198 of Brands' Andrew Jackson: His Life and Times. FEBRUARY 21st 1814 letter
shortly, and that he sends him three sweet kisses-I have not heard
whether Genl Coffee has taken on to him little Lyncoya-1 have got
another Pett-given to me by the chief Jame Fife, that I intend for my
other little Andrew [Jackson] Donelson and if I can a third I will give it
to little Andrew [Jackson] Hutchings [2]
My love I write you as often as time and convayences will permit, and
I have a pleasing hope we will with the protection and permission of him
who governs all, meet shortly-I wrote you a few days since, requesting
you would send the copy of the secratary of wars letter and the copy I had
enclosed to Genl Coffee of general Pinckneys letter which I directed to be
sent on with my letter to you-To William B Lewis at Nashville 3-If you
have not please to do it on the receipt of this, give my compliments to all
friends and believe me affectionately yours, &c &c
Andrew Jackson
ALS, MoSHi (3-0883).
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From Andrew Jackson, Jr. Aprile the 8 [18 14] My Dear Father no one will fetch my Lyncoia I have a thought of going my self for him I like Charly but he will not mind me my mother thinks highly of his understanding she treats him as well as aney purson on Earth Could-write when you think you will be on your returne march and I will Come and Hail you welcome oh the Sweete anticipation of the Long wished for period of it oreflows my soule I must quit the subject for the present-adieue my kindest and Dearest of friends Andrew Jackson j uner
Jackson inquires if Lyncoya, (the infant taken at Tallushatchee) had
arrived at the Hermitage and instructs his wife to "Keep Lyncoya in
the house," an indication that Jackson did not want him housed with
his African American slaves. (2:516)
Head quarters Fort Strother Decbr 29th. 1813 . ½ past 11 oclock at night
Lyncoya was taken to him by Major Whyte 3 of Gallatine-if he has got him how & what he thinks of him-Keep Lyncoya in the house-h
August 8, 2017 Report Prepared By Kathryn H. Braund Hollifield Professor of Southern History Auburn University New/different resource for Bath School articleUGA PhD dissertation 2019 & wayback saved version MERGE How to do an article merge - from MelanieN's user talk...Need some advice/help re: a merge or a re-direct or....? between Bath School disaster & Bath Consolidated School... As an admin who has edited "Bath School disaster", I need some advice re: Wiki-procedures...
Nice work, Shearonink. Just one thing: although you added the appropriate template to the talk page and left the wikiprojects in place, you forgot to actually redirect the school talk page to the disaster talk page. I did that just now, although to tell you the truth I don't know if it is actually required. I just don't like to leave the talk page of a redirect behind; seems like kind of an orphan. -- MelanieN (talk) 23:57, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
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Not a question about Citation bot but I am trying to understand the archiving of this particular page...ClueBot III always confuses me, I usually use Lowercase sigmabot III. Anyway, in the archiving set-up for this page it states:
How many days old a thread should be before archiving. Default: 90
Archiving not working Talk page archive problems with archivingHouse of Hesse jewel thefthttps://www.nationalww2museum.org/search?keys=The+Hesse+Heist Royals and the Reich: The Princes von Hessen in Nazi Germany By Jonathan Petropoulos https://books.google.com/books?id=EuU4PhMmt9kC&pg=PR4&dq=Petropoulos,+Jonathan,+Royals+and+the+Reich,+Oxford+University+Press&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjz09-UrK3_AhVOMlkFHQAVBTcQuwV6BAgCEAc#v=snippet&q=blunt&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=B3w7DwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false https://idnc.library.illinois.edu/?a=d&d=DIL19510802.2.3&e=-------en-20--1--img-txIN---------- publication: The Army Lawyer/Issue 1 2019, Section or Chapter: Lore of the Corps, Title: The German Job - Theft of Hesse Jewels Led to High Profile Courts-Martial by Fred L. Borch (Regimental Historian and Archivist for the Judge Advocate General's Corps) https://www.armfor.uscourts.gov/ConfHandout/2023ConfHandout/Borch1TheGermanJobTheftOfHesseJewelsInWWIILedToHighProfileCourtsMartial.pdf
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When all article titles (~ 5.9 million) are sorted alphabetically the last one in the list is 黑山 -- GreenC 03:22, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
I just liked the photos of this chapel so much I just had to keep them around. All the time.
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These pics too - from one of the DYK articles for today...
Did you know ... that the bell of the Church of the Good Shepherd (pictured), one of New Zealand's most photographed buildings, commemorates photographer and explorer Edward Sealy?
Moar favorite pics
Yeah...another favorite pic. From User talk:El C.Enjoy.
Found this one looking for pics of cyclists
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Hi Shearonink
I am new to Wikipedia & I have just created a noteworthy article "Shudra - The Rising... A Film" on the upcoming movie "Shudra - The Rising". You have wrote that this article is not "significant & important" enough to be added to wiki. I would request you to review it once again as this article supports to the existing topic of Wiki Shudra as a visual because the contents of shudra would be more liked by anybody in visuals & that is possible only when they are informed about such kind of movie & its links. This article has references of "Times of India" a leading newspaper of India, "Bollywood Hungama" a leading bollywood news site of Film Industry, moreover it has links on "IMDB" the international hub of movie database, we have our own website... there are hundreds of other links can be cited here, even if you just type "shudra" on any search engine or social websites (including google, youtube, facebook etc.) you will get the info of the film. As you have reviewed this article & found 'not acceptable' for wiki I wanted to ask you what else I should put in my article to get it accepted. I don't even know how to write on your talk page so I just edited one message on your page (plz don't take it as an offence) if this is supposed to be a message to you.
Barnstar
Per your suggestion on my talk page, I have fleshed out my reasoning for proposing this new page and replacing the existing History section on the Texas City, Texas page. I also requested a review of and comments on the above proposed changes (both the new AfC page and the proposed condensed History section for the main page) by others interested in this project. Please see Talk:Texas City, Texas. I would really appreciate your comments, too. Thanks.
ETC Channel
Hello,
This is regarding the article: [[5]]. We have corrected required things and added reliable sources. Can you please review it.
Thanks!
Re: Bellflower
No issues, my friend. BTW, keep an eye on Jayne Mansfield, and extend a hand when necessary. The article has a come a long way. Thanks to you and quite a number of other editors. Aditya(talk • contribs) 04:10, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
You're welcome. The editor had dropped off my radar, so I'm not sure what/who else might have popped up in the meantime. I was afraid these accounts might just be a drop in the bucket but I do hope it helps. If/when this happens again, I'll try and remember to emphasize the long-term activity. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:35, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
- These edits popped up on my radar, the interest-area and editing-style remind me of this editor, wondered what your thoughts might be. Cheers, Shearonink (talk) 01:13, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Mansfield again
The fact that Cimber died after Mansfield did would show that she was not a widow. I very much dislike the current wording. Guess there's no way out of it since she managed to get married and divorced all three times. ★Dasani★ 02:14, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- Cimber and Mansfield's divorce was pending when she died. She didn't get divorced three times. Aditya(talk • contribs) 07:55, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- The facts concerning her last days and who she was married to/divorced from are convoluted at best. It does appear that she and Cimber had separated and filed for divorce but were still technically married (witness the fight over who controlled Jayne's body/funeral proceedings) BUT the New Orleans courts ruled (after her death) that Mickey Hargitay was Jayne's legal husband (Faris, Jayne Mansfield: A Bio-Bibliography, Page 36) BUT that was overruled and a judge declared that Cimber was her legal husband(Strait, Here They Are Jayne Mansfield, Page 301) AND this Gettysburg Times account contemporary to her death states that "2 Estranged Husbands of Jayne Mansfield Staging Tug-of-War for Funeral"(http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2202&dat=19670630&id=OlcmAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ZP8FAAAAIBAJ&pg=3382,87939). For the time being, I think that the three men's names followed by year-dates of the supposed/alleged/stated marriages in parentheses preserves the timeline according to sources and is the best solution for now. 14:44, 20 June 2012 (UTC)Shearonink (talk)
- Cimber and Mansfield's divorce was pending when she died. She didn't get divorced three times. Aditya(talk • contribs) 07:55, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Help with Deleted SpiderGraph chart article
Hello again Shearonink,
You were nice enough to help me before and now I need your help again to give me some direction. What does it mean to be the Deletion Nominator? If you look at Glrx's User talk page, you'll see that I thought Glrx was in charge of the discussion because he was the Nominator. So after the discussion was abruptly closed, I continued to direct comments to him. I later noticed that he was making incorrect accusations, but when I proved him wrong, he wasn't correcting the discussion or passing the truth back to the voting REs to correct their miss-impressions. Not having all the facts (held back by Glrx), they voted to delete. Along came Ryan (Rjd0060) and deleted the article per process, not knowing that Glrx had held back information. I directed a DRV (soon to be a Grievance?) to Glrx because he was the culprit and he directed me back to Rjd0060. How do I get the true facts known, expose Glrx for what he is, and get the article undeleted?
Thanx in advance for your help, 76.2.147.70 (talk) 21:53, 20 June 2012 (UTC) Sorry, I forgot I wasn't logged in! Gregory L. Chester 21:58, 20 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GregLChest (talk • contribs)
- The community consensus was for article deletion as seen at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SpiderGraph chart. Glrx is not in-charge of the process, the community is. I have no idea how facts could have been "held back" by Glrx since all posts on Wikipedia's pages can be read by anyone. If there was some matter that you forgot to post within the Deletion debate then that can be posted as part of a Deletion Review, which by the way you haven't actually filed. You have placed the template on the incorrect page, you need to follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Deletion review#Steps to list a new deletion review, Glrx's talk page is not the correct place to post your DR request. I would also suggest that you really should stop referring to other editors in pejorative terms, characterizing another editor as 'holding back the truth', as a 'culprit' and saying you are going to 'expose them' makes the process much more difficult than it has to be. Shearonink (talk) 22:33, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Dear Shearonink,
I want you to know that I really do appreciated all your help, instructive advice, and especially my witnessing to your obvious Integrity, which I have found lacking in some of the other Editors & Administrators! (Glrx said, "I am unsympathetic to an appeal" and Rjd0060 said, "Sorry to disappoint you, but I really couldn't care less what happens to this particular article. You'll have to pursue this elsewhere.")
Do you remember my concerns to you last October, when Mabdul proved himself to be an Egotistial Bully, when I went to the Help Desk for the first time, and I hinted to you that someone may be trying to build a Power-play Kingdom on WP? (It's my belief, that when an unknown editor has life or death power over an article, one needs maturity to control one's ego or power can get out of hand!) Well, after that Help Desk incident, Mabdul put me on his Watch List. Since then, he has eliminated three sections of the SG article w/o explaining to me about the cause or giving suggestions to make it better! He also stated that he thought the SpiderGraph was a Radar chart, which I proved to him was wrong, but he still voted to delete it , along with adding 4 or 5 other comments during the Delete discussion. Then, I learned that Glrx became Delete Nominator of the article after talking to Mabdul, while he was asking Glrx for a RfA! (small world!)
Recently, I have taken your latest advice and removed the inappropriate DRV from Glrx's talk page and decided not to pursue a Greivance, just yet. Please let me try to summarize my situation (or you can read it first hand on Glrx's or Rjd0060's talk page). A new DRV would not work in this case, because the damage to the article that was done just after the article went public and before it was proposed for deletion, is still present in the article. An egotistical editor (CC) jumped on the article and cut it in half, rearranged everything beyond recognition (a real third-grade hack job!) and also piggybacked the 1986 Industry Handbook secondary source citation, onto the existing 1985 primary source citation, while removing every mention in the article of the very notable secondary source! Consequentally, a reviewing editor caused the article to be deleted!
By the time the other Reviewing Editors read the article, all they saw was an article with no secondary source, therefore not passing WP:N, automatically causing a delete consenses! The article had already been deleted when the omission error was discovered, consequently, it was to late to make changes! The error was mentioned 3 separate times in the discussion, but no one acknowledged the error, in fact, when I corrected some of their miss-impressions, no reviewing editor even replied back or questioned my comments, which I thought was very odd! Here, I had proven them wrong, but no one changed their vote?? Most of them stated in there delete comments that the SpiderGraph was just another form of Radar chart, taking after Glrx's lead! In fact, Glrx was so adamant that he said, "The faults of the Radar spider chart carried over to the SpiderGraph chart!" I immediately asked Glrx to explain himself, but he never did! I told him that it was obvious that the geometry in the Excel software used to computer-generate the Radar charts caused its overall faults, whereas all the SpiderGraph charts are hand-drawn and requires no computer! Still there was no change to Glrx's attitude!
I have asked Rjd0060 if it would be possible to have the article undeleted into the AfCreation area, so I could make the necessary corrections and then have it Relisted with an "expert-subject tag," so comments from a more knowledgeable group of "peers" could be obtained? (So far, I haven't received an answer from Ryan.) Does that sound fessible to you? What do you suggest I do? At the present time, the public has no low-cost, easy-to-use, universal method to aid in their process of making important Trade-off Decisions!
Thanking you in advance, Gregory L. Chester 17:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GregLChest (talk • contribs)
- I am sorry that this experience with the SpiderGraph article has been so difficult for you, but take a look at this direct quote of what you posted above:
- Do you remember my concerns to you last October, when Mabdul proved himself to be an Egotistial Bully, when I went to the Help Desk for the first time, and I hinted to you that someone may be trying to build a Power-play Kingdom on WP? (It's my belief, that when an unknown editor has life or death power over an article, one needs maturity to control one's ego or power can get out of hand!) Well, after that Help Desk incident, Mabdul put me on his Watch List. Since then, he has eliminated three sections of the SG article w/o explaining to me about the cause or giving suggestions to make it better! He also stated that he thought the SpiderGraph was a Radar chart, which I proved to him was wrong, but he still voted to delete it , along with adding 4 or 5 other comments during the Delete discussion. Then, I learned that Glrx became Delete Nominator of the article after talking to Mabdul, while he was asking Glrx for a RfA! (small world!)
- Now, maybe another editor might not be your favorite person, maybe their style is not to your liking, but Mabdul is a conscientious editor. Characterizing him as being "an Egotistial[Egotistical] Bully" as well as implying that there is something wrong with an editor maintaining a Watchlist? plus calling "CC" an "egotistical bully" and saying his editing was a "third-grade hack-job"?...I'm sorry, I don't understand why you think calling your fellow editors names on my talkpage will get you somewhere. I also don't understand why you think that participating in a Articles for Deletion discussion is cause for alarm and why you think editing any Wikipedia article requires anyone's permission...once material is written onto Wikipedia, *any* other person can edit it, content does not belong to the person who created it, it belongs to the community at large.
- In my opinion, from this article's earliest incarnations, the available references for the subject were always somewhat sparse and not completely sufficient to Wikipedia standards. As to your last sentence above?... "At the present time, the public has no low-cost, easy-to-use, universal method to aid in their process of making important Trade-off Decisions!"... this would seem to be incorrect. This Trade-off Decision-Making process of yours actually still exists, but the Wikipedia encyclopedia does not seem to be the best place for information about it to reside. I would suggest, with all the issues that your fellow editors have had with it that you find some other venue to publicize this decision-making method. As to restoring the previous draft content to your user space so you can perhaps improve it to Wikipedia standards, I am not an administrator and cannot take such an action. I tried to find a WikiProject that you could get involved with on other articles or that could assist you with trying to work up the SpiderGraph content into an article, WikiProject Statistics might possibly be of some assistance. There are some administrators who participate in that WikiProject, perhaps one of them might be interested in restoring the deleted content to your user space. The participants are listed here. Good luck, Shearonink (talk) 06:45, 4 July 2012 (UTC)