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I am so disillusioned and discouraged by the way I've been treated, despite being a genuinely good and honest contributor - both, financially and editorially. I fully intend on filing thorough complaints for abuse of power, lack of communication, unwarranted accusations, breach of rules and conduct and anything else I am able to deem appropriate. I will go to the very top of the food chain and reach out to Mr. Wales personally, if need be. |
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I am already in the process of cancelling my current donation and do not intend on donating a single penny going forward. |
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If this is what Wikipedia represents, I am not interested in funding it. |
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This genuinely makes me sad because my intentions were so good and well-meaning. What's been done to me and how I've been treated is egregious, in my opinion. |
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Ryan ([[User:Ryancoke2020|Ryancoke2020]] ([[User talk:Ryancoke2020#top|talk]]) 00:28, 9 July 2020 (UTC)) |
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Follow up
Hi Ryan. I've received your e-mail, but as you may have seen, your account has been blocked by another administrator, one with additional rights who is known as a checkuser, who can see more information about your account, connection details etc. They've placed a very specific type of block on your account, a checkuser block, which normal administrators such as myself cannot lift. You will need to follow the instructions provided at the guidance for appealing a block. There is nothing further I can do to assist with the deletion issue until you have been unblocked. Nick (talk) 11:31, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi Nick. She didn't even provide a reason for blocking me and she doesn't respond to emails, apparently. How can I appeal when I don't know what I did wrong? They request reasons why and why I won't do it in the future, but again, she hasn't provided a reason - simply a block and, not only that, but she disabled my ability to 'talk'. I mean, it's almost comical at this point.
So, this is how it went... 1- My IP was blocked by some random individual in the Czech Republic, though it was done mistakenly. That's really his job? - Blocking random IP addresses in Canada that do not, in fact, use a VPN. This, then, set off a chain reaction of attacks by various 'moderators' - as though I now had a target on my proverbial back.
2- You then deleted my page despite my complete willingness to work with you in correcting whatever issue had drawn your ire. But, you simply refused. I still don't quite understand why you did what you did, though I intend on finding out. It's Wikipedia; the rules should be a wee bit more lax than what you might find in a dictatorship. I mean, c'mon, Nick... I'm a genuinely decent guy who put a lot of work into that page and, at the very least, this was patently obvious. You have a duty to be fair and judicious in your actions, but you chose to abuse your authority - and, that's not cool. You need only re-read our conversation thread (which I've saved) in order to see that one of us was being very rational and compliant and willing to do whatever was necessary. Unfortunately, rational and compliant aren't always the victor - as we're currently witnessing in today's society (and, apparently, online). Am I upset? - Sure! But, I'm more so disappointed that you were so callous and unwilling to hear me out.
3- Then, for whatever reason, I am blocked indefinitely (while I was attempting to converse with you - on your page)... which seems a bit coincidental and convenient. I mean, out of left field, I'm banned indefinitely without being given a reason why. Is that par for the course? Is that typical? I'm dead serious, my friend. How is anyone able to contribute to Wikipedia given the capricious decision-making and random acts of punitive repercussions? I've lost all interest in wanting to contribute, but I fully intend on following through with a detailed complaint and a stop payment on my $100.00 per month contribution to Wikipedia. Never again will I contribute financially after how I've been treated these past couple of days. I promise I am not being vindictive; that's not my style. But, I do believe in people being held accountable.
Take good care and stay healthy during these challenging times.
Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 13:04, 8 July 2020 (UTC))
- @AmandaNP: I have no knowledge of the prior VPN issue or any of the private IP data. That's not something I have access to, but hopefully Amanda may be able to clarify the situation further. You have talk page access here and you're welcome to ask any administrator to review your unblock request, once we get to the bottom of the block with Amanda. Nick (talk) 14:07, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
@AmandaNP: Nick - She doesn't respond! It's a veritable 'hit and run'. Without cause or explanation, she arbitrarily blocked me indefinitely and then disappeared. That's fine. I may not be the biggest donor to Wikipedia - $1,200.00 per year is not exactly a million dollars - but, I fully intend on making it clear to those in charge that they will no longer be receiving my monthly contributions due to the way I've been treated these past couple of days. It's shameful, Nick. I've never in my life been made to feel like this - and, for what? For wanting to be a part of the Wikipedia community and to contribute my time and effort during these challenging times. I'm also a medical professional on the front lines of this pandemic. I'm not asking for special treatment, but I think fair treatment and, perhaps, the benefit of the doubt would be in order. I'm just thoroughly disappointed and, tbh, I think you would be, too.
Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 14:45, 8 July 2020 (UTC))
- Ryan, with respect, you messaged me at 11pm last night via email. Right before I went to bed. I also work in the morning like I assume you do too at times. I'll be happy to look over this later today after work. Please be patient for a few more hours until I can sit down and fully review your email. Like you, I am not paid to edit or protect Wikipedia, so i'm not 24/7 on call. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 14:53, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Amanda, Equally with respect and, perhaps, a friendly suggestion - When you block someone indefinitely, you could provide a detailed reason why, as well as the means to reach you through 'talk'. Blocking my ability to communicate doesn't exactly foster a positive environment. Additionally, if you're going to block someone with the knowledge that you won't be able to reply for the next 24 hours, it may behoove you to make absolutely sure that you're, in fact, not capriciously and randomly doing so to legitimate contributors - editorially and financially. I'd be foolish to donate part of my salary to Wikipedia only to log on and do whatever it is you're claiming I did (I STILL do not know why I was blocked... How is that?).
Please allow me to recap... I do not use a VPN - full stop! I am not a freelancer (whatever that means) and I am not creating a Wikipedia page for my own benefit. Here... I realize this is public, but it doesn't much matter. I'm a vascular surgeon. I am on call A LOT and, throughout this pandemic, I have doubled in the ICU (mostly working the vents and monitoring patients). All that to say that, in my spare time, I'm not looking for drama and chaos. I simply wanted to contribute to Wikipedia (other than financially). But, this entire experience has thoroughly soured me and I find it reprehensible that someone with genuinely good intentions would be treated as though he had committed a deadly sin. I've always been respectful in my communications and I will continue doing so, but this is getting tiresome. I mean, you must understand that this is getting to be borderline silly? If you refuse to unblock my page, I do believe it's incumbent upon you to state the reason(s) why you've blocked me. At your earliest convenience, I would encourage you to make the proper decision regarding this matter and, preferably, in a timely fashion. Thank you and please be well, Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 15:36, 8 July 2020 (UTC))
- @Nick: Hello, Nick: Do you have an identification # or some sort of identifying item (apart from your username) that Wikipedia requires as part of a formal complaint procedure? I'm not inquiring about personal details. Just what is typically required as per a complaint.
Thank you. Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 23:42, 8 July 2020 (UTC))
I am so disillusioned and discouraged by the way I've been treated, despite being a genuinely good and honest contributor - both, financially and editorially. I fully intend on filing thorough complaints for abuse of power, lack of communication, unwarranted accusations, breach of rules and conduct and anything else I am able to deem appropriate. I will go to the very top of the food chain and reach out to Mr. Wales personally, if need be.
I am already in the process of cancelling my current donation and do not intend on donating a single penny going forward.
If this is what Wikipedia represents, I am not interested in funding it.
This genuinely makes me sad because my intentions were so good and well-meaning. What's been done to me and how I've been treated is egregious, in my opinion.
Sincerely,
Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 00:28, 9 July 2020 (UTC))