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PS Just had a look at the lead: it's fine. Thanks for your vote. [[User:Tony1|Tony]] 00:15, 28 October 2005 (UTC) |
PS Just had a look at the lead: it's fine. Thanks for your vote. [[User:Tony1|Tony]] 00:15, 28 October 2005 (UTC) |
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Robert, I suppose that you're aware of the fiasco that my RfA has become. It looks as though the nomination will fail through a concerted attempt at character assassination by several people whose article I critiqued. Now that the ball has started rolling, more are joining in the feast. |
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I feel utterly destroyed by this process: never before have I been under sustained personal attack by a group, and my instinct is to defend myself in those rare situations, rather than retreat from tension as I normally do. |
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So, my purpose in writing to you is to say that if/when it fails, I'll be trashing my personal page and won't return to WP; it's just too unpleasant and embarrassing to go on. In that probable case, I hope that your Luto article goes well next Sunday, and please accept my best wishes; it was nice to work with you. [[User:Tony1|Tony]] 00:32, 29 October 2005 (UTC) |
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Please post new messages to the bottom of my talk page. I will respond on yours unless you ask me not to; please respond on mine so that I get notified via a new message box as I tend not to watch other people's user pages.
Please remember the five pillars and, in particular, please be civil.
Anon vandal post
Here's the anon vandal posting I reverted earlier, but I enjoyed its lack of neurosis and its inscrutability, so on reflection I am putting it back in case it amuses anyone else. --RobertG ♬ talk 20:02, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
I wasn't experimenting, I was vandalising, you fool!
Do not assume good faith with me. I have more mothers! (preceding unsigned comment by 81.152.55.77 16:54, 7 September 2005 (UTC))
The above
made me laugh; I'm glad you kept it for others to stumble across. And I have to echo Antandrus' statements above: you're a shining asset to Wikipedia, and I hope you're enjoying the relaxation of your Wikibreak.
When you come back, would you be interested in becoming an admin? I've noticed you doing quite a bit of vandalism reversion lately and thought you might find it useful. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 21:06, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
- No, you're not reading too much in; of course it is an offer. And I'd be honored to do so. Hope you're well, then, and that you have time to catch some leisure time on the wiki sometime soon! Mindspillage (spill yours?) 15:28, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- I'm glad you've decided to accept. :-) Whenever would be good for you is fine—a time when you'll be able to post answers to the questions shortly afterward would be best. Today or tomorrow, maybe? Mindspillage (spill yours?) 18:02, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, I figured we were offset a bit. Last thing tonight is is perfectly convenient—especially as I am something of a night owl. No hurry, just best to do things while they're fresh in my mind, else I forget! I'll drop you another message when it's posted. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 19:41, 21 September 2005 (UTC) (Update: nomination posted, while I'm still awake enough to catch my typos!) Mindspillage (spill yours?) 05:29, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- I'm glad you've decided to accept. :-) Whenever would be good for you is fine—a time when you'll be able to post answers to the questions shortly afterward would be best. Today or tomorrow, maybe? Mindspillage (spill yours?) 18:02, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
The charter is here. (Relating to Esperanza)
Hello RobertG, the Charter for Esperanza is up. Take a looksie :) Redwolf24 (talk) 02:55, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
More on Luto
Robert, are you back? What about swapping the bottom and top pics of the composer? The bottom one is just beautiful, and would be nice at the opening. Tony 08:45, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
I took that photo of the score myself; never done one before, and I'd like to know what the trick is for getting a white background. Not helped by the small notation. Tony 10:47, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Esperanza made less bureaucratic
Hello again, I have (unilatterly) taken away the 'assembly' idea, as per my reasons at that edit summary and per Wikipedia talk:Esperanza/Charter. I have left the admin general, as some leadership is good. Now, all you have to do is be a member to establish consensus, the whole assembly idea is gone. Also, I have added an advisory committee, of four members, with limited power besides watching over the admin general and making sure he doesn't do anything stupid. Please look at the ammended charter, and I would love a comment. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:28, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
emailing you now
Tony 00:31, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
I've overwritten the excerpt (so much nicer), but the old one still shows in the article. ??? Tony 12:15, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
The last time I'm spamming you all with Esperanza stuff
Hello RobertG. As you may or may not know, there have been some troubles with Esperanza. So now, as a last ditch to save the community, please vote at Wikipedia:Esperanza/Reform on all neccisary polls. P.S. I'm very sorry for spamming you all with these messages, and this will be the last time. I recommend putting ESP on your watchlist. Cheers and please look at that, let's stop the civil war then. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:51, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
RFA
Congratulations! Consesus being reached you will now be given the admin's tools. However there is a bug in the system and hence we cannot set access rights as of now. Special:makesysop is used to set admin rights and currently an error: "page not recognized by Wikipedia" is being displayed. If this is rectified, you will see "you do not have permission to access...". Bureaucrats will be checking this page periodically, if you notice it resolved before a bureaucrat does, please feel to contact any one of them (special:listusers). Thank you for your patience. User:Nichalp/sg 05:58, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
- It was my pleasure: hope you didn't mind my disrupting your request too much. ;-) I trust you will use your powers well, once you get them; welcome to the nonexistent admin musicabal! Mindspillage (spill yours?) 14:24, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
- My pleasure as well, and I hope the bug is squashed soon; that's rather a bad one. I think you'll find admin rights to be quite useful! Take care, Antandrus (talk) 15:14, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your support on the above page's FA. I have responded to your comments on the FA page. Regards Giano | talk 21:01, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
You're a sysop!
Hey there. I'm pleased to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator! You've volunteered to do housekeeping duties that normal users sadly cannot participate in. Sysops can't do a lot of stuff: They can't delete pages just like that (except patent nonsense like "aojt9085yu8;3ou"), and they can't protect pages in an edit war they are involved in. But they can delete random junk, ban anonymous vandals, delete pages listed on Votes for deletion (provided there's a consensus) for more than one week, protect pages when asked to, and keep the few protected pages that exist on Wikipedia up to date.
Almost anything you can do can be undone, but please take a look at The Administrators' how-to guide and the Administrators' reading list before you get started (although you should have read that during your candidacy ;). Take a look before experimenting with your powers. Also, please add Administrators' noticeboard to your watchlist, as there are always discussions/requests for admins there. If you have any questions drop me a message at My talk page. Have fun! =Nichalp «Talk»= 20240920015423Your Adminship and more
Hi RobertG: Thank you for your kind note. Yeah, I was just a bit stressed with school, work, and more, and just didn't want to add any Wikistress to the pile. Right now, I'm feeling better, though am spending less time here in order to concentrate both on my studies and life in general.
I am quite glad that your RfA passed, and look forward to working with you more. I always respected you as an editor, and now welcome you to the ranks of janitors/admins/cabalists etc. Regards, Bratschetalk | Esperanza 19:31, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Luto opening para
Hi Robert—Are we going to use my proposed opening to the article, or do you have problems with it? Tony 11:28, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
I see what you mean. Can you leave it with me? I don't have lots of time at the moment, but will after 12 October, so perhaps then I'll propose some additions to body of the article that might solve this problem. Tony 12:53, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the words of encouragement. They help, and they are appreciated. Peruvianllama 18:25, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
- If you wouldn't mind taking another look at Saint Francis High School, and the history of changes, 'twould also be appreciated. The situation seems to be just as bad as before, and I don't see things improving until admin action has been taken. Cheers. Peruvianllama 20:21, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Saint Francis High School vandal
Hi, Fvw. I've been keeping an eye on this editor, too. When they persisted after your final warning, I blocked them for 48 hours - is this long enough? - too long? (I'm an as-yet-inexperienced admin.) You may be aware that they have also threatened further attacks on another IP address - I suspect this is just bluster, but perhaps we should keep an eye out. Regards. --RobertG ♬ talk 08:59, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
- 48 hours is fine; I would have probably gone for 24, in most cases you only have to block for the length of their attention span which generally isn't all that long. They're on a pac bell dynamic IP so they can easily get a fresh IP, as indeed they did after the block. I've vprotected the page instead. --fvw* 13:15, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks to you both. RobertG, as you've probably already noticed, I was frustrated enough with the situation to list it on Wikipedia:Vandalism_in_progress#IP_Severe - not an attempt to go "over your head" or anything, but just to make sure it was listed for the right people in the right places. Once again, thanks to all who helped out - seeing my picture with a circle-and-cross through it was becoming tiresome. :) Peruvianllama 16:23, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
- One more comment - obviously this situation can very easily return once the Protected status wears off, and we're back at square one if it does. In the process of all this, it's occured to me that a third article policy in between 'Open' and 'Protected' would solve problems like this one. This third policy would block anon. IPs from editing, but allow registered users to edit freely. Is there any currently on-going discussion forum on WikiPolicy where I could bring this up? Peruvianllama 16:32, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Ferdinand Magellan vandal
Thanks for the catch on that vandal, I missed his last change :) You're an admin, right? He used up his limits for warns, you got the block? 70.60.56.30
Nevermind. You already got him. Things sure do move fast around here! --Irixman 16:02, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Hello - New Message
Hi Robert, I'm loving Wikipedia!! I'm sure i will be coming back for help as am still a rookie .. Please can you delete the other uncopywritted Guy picture you mailed me about, was a mistake. Thanks,Amycrowther 16:31, 11 October 2005 (UTC)Amy
Thank you
Thanks for your congratulations: I'll do my best to be just and well-tempered. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 17:24, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks
Thank you for blocking 205.235.35.52, a little slow there ;) (just kidding!)
Prodego 14:20, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Here's another who seems to have stoped I am now leaving Wikipedia keep an eye on this one for me please, Thanks.
(204.184.214.1) 2 blocks in past
Hi Robert
It went well; I had one done and I performed one for someone else. Thanks for the welcome back! I didn't think anyone would notice, and it's pleasing that someone did. :-) Take care, Antandrus (talk) 15:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
R U home?
If you are in Wikipedia, 66.100.118.66 might will need to be blocked.
Prodego talk 17:12, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Titoxd's RfA
Thank you for supporting me in my RfA. I never thought I would get so much support! Thanks to your help, my nomination was the 10th most supported RfA in Wikipedia history. Now, please keep an eye out on me while I learn the new tools, ok? Thanks again! Titoxd(?!?) 18:03, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Luto
Hi Robert That's good news that the article is to appear on the front page! At what point in time is the lead 'snapshot' taken for that appearance? I'd like to have another look at it. As well, I wanted to include a few audio excerpts ('fair use'), which will involve a visit to the library to borrow CDs, which I'll do early next week (I thought one or two 30-second excerpts from Symphony for Orchestra, one from the Symphony No. 3, and one from Parole Tissee (I've spelt it wrongly) - any other thoughts on that? I'm keen to promote the use of short excerpts in composer articles, and this is a good opportunity. At the same time, I'll check references on the composers who influenced L, for the lead. Tony 23:21, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
PS Just had a look at the lead: it's fine. Thanks for your vote. Tony 00:15, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
Robert, I suppose that you're aware of the fiasco that my RfA has become. It looks as though the nomination will fail through a concerted attempt at character assassination by several people whose article I critiqued. Now that the ball has started rolling, more are joining in the feast.
I feel utterly destroyed by this process: never before have I been under sustained personal attack by a group, and my instinct is to defend myself in those rare situations, rather than retreat from tension as I normally do.
So, my purpose in writing to you is to say that if/when it fails, I'll be trashing my personal page and won't return to WP; it's just too unpleasant and embarrassing to go on. In that probable case, I hope that your Luto article goes well next Sunday, and please accept my best wishes; it was nice to work with you. Tony 00:32, 29 October 2005 (UTC)