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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.<!-- Template:afd notice --> [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 10:53, 21 November 2020 (UTC) |
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:Since you don't seem to be interested in my notifications, I'll tell you once only: stop reverting and start discussing on the talk page. This article is subject to arbitration sanctions and '''requires''' reliable sources, specifically [[WP:MEDRS]] compliant sources. [[User:Praxidicae|Praxidicae]] ([[User talk:Praxidicae|talk]]) 15:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC) |
:Since you don't seem to be interested in my notifications, I'll tell you once only: stop reverting and start discussing on the talk page. This article is subject to arbitration sanctions and '''requires''' reliable sources, specifically [[WP:MEDRS]] compliant sources. [[User:Praxidicae|Praxidicae]] ([[User talk:Praxidicae|talk]]) 15:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC) |
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You have shown interest in [[pseudoscience]] and [[fringe science]]. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions|discretionary sanctions]] is in effect. Any administrator may impose [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions#Sanctions|sanctions]] on editors who do not strictly follow [[Wikipedia:List of policies|Wikipedia's policies]], or the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions#Page restrictions|page-specific restrictions]], when making edits related to the topic. |
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For additional information, please see the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions#Guidance for editors|guidance on discretionary sanctions]] and the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee|Arbitration Committee's]] decision [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pseudoscience|here]]. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.}}{{Z33}}<!-- Derived from Template:Ds/alert -->[[User:Praxidicae|Praxidicae]] ([[User talk:Praxidicae|talk]]) 14:25, 21 November 2020 (UTC) |
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NB: this has been readded by myself as it is pertinent to the topic ban appeal. [[User:RickyBennison|RickyBennison]] ([[User talk:RickyBennison#top|talk]]) 16:57, 27 November 2020 (UTC) |
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== Discretionary Sanction == |
== Discretionary Sanction == |
Revision as of 16:57, 27 November 2020
Speedy deletion nomination of Grounding (earthing) culture
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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice that Grounding (earthing) culture, a page that you created, has been tagged for deletion. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:
- It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
- It covers a topic on which we already have an article - Nature therapy. (See section A10 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Nature therapy, or to discuss new information at the article's talk page.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Praxidicae (talk) 13:55, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Nomination of Grounding (earthing) culture for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Grounding (earthing) culture is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grounding (earthing) culture until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:53, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Since you don't seem to be interested in my notifications, I'll tell you once only: stop reverting and start discussing on the talk page. This article is subject to arbitration sanctions and requires reliable sources, specifically WP:MEDRS compliant sources. Praxidicae (talk) 15:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Notice
This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.
You have shown interest in pseudoscience and fringe science. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.
For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.
Template:Z33Praxidicae (talk) 14:25, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
NB: this has been readded by myself as it is pertinent to the topic ban appeal. RickyBennison (talk) 16:57, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Discretionary Sanction
I'm banning you from editing any pseudoscience, alternative medicine or fringe science page for 12 months, in line with the Pseudoscience arbitration case discretionary sanctions. This is logged at Wikipedia:Arbitration_enforcement_log/2020#Pseudoscience. Nick (talk) 18:05, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Nick, I do not think you have the authority to do that. You have not warned me and you are involved with editing the same article. Please feel free to enlighten me if I have misunderstood something. RickyBennison (talk) 21:42, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- You were warned that discretionary sanctions are in place by Praxidicae (that's the warning you removed with the inappropriate edit summary I mentioned previously). This warning enables me to then take action such as topic banning you from the area(s) covered by the warning. You'll notice that my involvement relates solely to administrative actions, such as removing inappropriate references and adding a site to the spam blacklist, rather than any editorial engagement with the editorial area in question. Nick (talk) 21:54, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- Nick, you would have to deliver the warning yourself. Another editor who is fervently involved with editing the article can not deliver the warning on your behalf. That would make him a semi-admin purely on the basis of enacting the warning i.e. by laying the technical foundation of the ban he is adopting an administrative capacity. It would also have to be a specific warning in regard to specific edits as opposed to a generic statement. In addition, you removed more than a single source but also a notable amount of text which involves you in the editing of the article. RickyBennison (talk) 22:30, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- I'm really am sorry, but you're completely wrong. The discretionary sanctions warning can be left by any editor and the sanctions invoked by an uninvolved administrator, which, despite your protestations, is what I am with regards to your editing and the subject area you were topic banned from editing. You need to read carefully the warning message that was left on your talk page by Praxidicae and you need to very carefully read the Discretionary Sanctions page before commenting further. Nick (talk) 22:38, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- Nick, in regard to the alert template, it 'is purely informational and neither implies nor expresses a finding of fault' and 'It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.' That, by definition, means it is not a warning about poor editing practices etc. I think you have misunderstood the situation quite badly. It simply means the range of administrators who have discretionary powers, in the given topic area, has been extended; it does not mean that correct administrative protocol is no longer required. You have also been involved in editing the content of the article. I find these things to amount to an obvious abuse of administrative privileges (how many people have you banned in this manner?!). I have also found this situation to be stressful and alienating. In addition, it puts the survival of the article in serious doubt. RickyBennison (talk) 12:19, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
- Nick, I am asking you to reconsider your original decision. RickyBennison (talk) 15:30, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not going to get into an argument about the process - you were informed you were editing in an area where discretionary sanctions have been imposed by the Arbitration Committee, the notice that Praxidicae left is all that is then required for any administrator to subsequently impose a discretionary sanction. If you do wish to appeal by explaining why such a sanction is unnecessary, rather than complaining that the process may well be unfair, I'm happy to listen. If you have more complaints about the process itself, then I would suggest you appeal the topic ban at the correct venue Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement. Nick (talk) 18:07, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
- Nick, in regard to the accusation of disruptive editing, I do not meet the criteria or even come close. I had taken into account other editors concerns and attempted to incorporate them into my edits, thus building a consensus. I had attempted to rectify the problems suggested by other editors, such as advertising, WP:SOAPBOX, and WP:MEDRS. All of these things refute a charge of disruptive editing. In addition, even if my edits did amount to disruptive editing (which they did not), on the Disruptive editing Wikipedia page: 'Disruptive editing may result in warnings and then escalating blocks, typically starting with 24 hours.' The idea that this escalating scale can be bypassed entirely on the basis of an alert template, and year long bans imposed without a warning, is quite frankly preposterous. And no where on Wikipedia does it say that that is the case. In regard to the article, I found myself to be at loggerheads with editor Praxidicae. Whilst I found their editing unnecessarily harsh, they did suggest using the Talk page more and I acknowledge that I should have done this. In addition, I acknowledge finding out why editors have concerns in regard to WP:MEDRS, especially in regard to specific sources, is also worth pursuing on the Talk page. These are things I will improve on in the future.RickyBennison (talk) 17:31, 26 November 2020 (UTC)