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== Sigh ... == |
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Revision as of 22:48, 24 January 2018
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Thanks for trying, We hope. Unfortunately the admin you approached has demonstrated in the past that any attack made on me is acceptable - this was despite it being known the IP was a blocked troll who was crowing and admitting to it off-wiki. I note that the instruction is that you are expected to be apologizing to him (the other user) for the (your) comments, yet the other user is not even reprimanded let alone expected to apologise. This is simply an encouragement for the user to continue with his behaviour - but I guess that is now the way of Wikipedia? SagaciousPhil - Chat 08:43, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- Sagaciousphil, We hope: If you want to talk about this and discuss your thoughts and input with me, my door is completely open and I would like to do so and try and help in any way. Just start a new discussion on my talk page - let's talk. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:07, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- I actually thought one of my main points was made above? The last time I tried to discuss on your talk page it was pointless, wasn't it? Why is this any likely to be different? Still nothing done regarding the other user? No, I thought not. Thanks but I have content to write, which no doubt after I've spent a lot of time, money and effort to produce a drive-by will arrive to insist an IB be added. SagaciousPhil - Chat 09:15, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- It's done. I will "apologize" to the editor when Hades freezes over and all his deceased friends and relatives pop up and begin ice skating. I participated in the conversation with him AFTER his "hypocrisy" and "attack dog against me whilst Cassianto's on his best behaviour".removed attacks on OTHERS asked admin help. Then I was told replying to him at AN re: an earlier issue was "stalking" him, trying to "pull a stunt" to "silence the opposition" by the PA removals. The "attack dog" question brought the following response from him The reply was a personal attack that focused on the contributor (me), rather than the substance of my arguments, but you knew that." I responded to this with "BULLSHIT!", When he remarked, my reply was "Merely following your lead." The discussion stopped being civil when his "attack dog" remarks were made. I am not the one who began the PAs, so there's nothing to apologize for.
- I actually thought one of my main points was made above? The last time I tried to discuss on your talk page it was pointless, wasn't it? Why is this any likely to be different? Still nothing done regarding the other user? No, I thought not. Thanks but I have content to write, which no doubt after I've spent a lot of time, money and effort to produce a drive-by will arrive to insist an IB be added. SagaciousPhil - Chat 09:15, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- I went into this trying to stop the abuse and it happens every time User:Cassianto participates in a box discussion. The other editor "magically" appears and participates in this way. It's happened more times than coincidence allows. He accuses others of pulling stunts and gaslighting against the opposition, but apparently it's perfectly fine with him to pop up and begin insulting on a regular basis in those discuaaions. I have no further content to create-text or visual because I won't continue working here. We hope (talk) 11:58, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- I'm sorry to see this has driven you away, We hope, but can understand and share your frustration. It's interesting to note that in this comment while discussing PAs etc the admin is admitting to being selective as to who should be reprimanded - I guess that's again endorsing he feels I can be targeted? SagaciousPhil - Chat 06:45, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- The admin help was closed saying the help desired wasn't noted. ;) I certainly would have rather spent my time doing something else, but did not like the PAs coming from this editor; they were no surprise given past discussions. I now find that my time is better spent away from Wikipedia. Let's see-70%+ of your time here is spent in mainspace, Close to 80% of my time here was spent on content creation. The editor who called you an "attack dog" has spent just under 33% of his time in mainspace editing. It can't be the amount of time you spend here or where you spend it that's the deciding factor here. Let's try again for an explanation since you continue to work here. user:Oshwah We hope (talk) 16:44, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there! I just saw that you pinged me in your response here. How can I help? Also, to briefly try and explain: The edit I looked into was this one that Jcc made that you removed part of the content from. I also noted and commented on the responses you made in return. I didn't comment on your follow-up messages to imply that I wasn't going to help you further, but you must understand that when you start responding to personal attacks and incivility with the same thing back that it only makes the situation worse, never better. I understand that you were frustrated - I really do, but I have to make sure that when looking into issues that I address all problematic edits and behaviors, not just the ones that the reporting user mentions. I didn't get farther than this due to your reply on my talk page. What would you like to do? What would you like me to do? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:13, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- Perhaps user:Sagaciousphil has some requests since he/she was called an "attack dog". I was only told I was stalking the editor, "pulling a stunt" to try to "silence the opposition" and "gaslighting", who didn't decide he'd received a PA until AFTER the removal of his PA and my request for help. Bringing user: Cassianto into this for his thoughts because it seems to me that every time he's discussing infoboxes, he's promptly "joined" by the editor in question. We hope (talk) 17:37, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there! I just saw that you pinged me in your response here. How can I help? Also, to briefly try and explain: The edit I looked into was this one that Jcc made that you removed part of the content from. I also noted and commented on the responses you made in return. I didn't comment on your follow-up messages to imply that I wasn't going to help you further, but you must understand that when you start responding to personal attacks and incivility with the same thing back that it only makes the situation worse, never better. I understand that you were frustrated - I really do, but I have to make sure that when looking into issues that I address all problematic edits and behaviors, not just the ones that the reporting user mentions. I didn't get farther than this due to your reply on my talk page. What would you like to do? What would you like me to do? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:13, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- The admin help was closed saying the help desired wasn't noted. ;) I certainly would have rather spent my time doing something else, but did not like the PAs coming from this editor; they were no surprise given past discussions. I now find that my time is better spent away from Wikipedia. Let's see-70%+ of your time here is spent in mainspace, Close to 80% of my time here was spent on content creation. The editor who called you an "attack dog" has spent just under 33% of his time in mainspace editing. It can't be the amount of time you spend here or where you spend it that's the deciding factor here. Let's try again for an explanation since you continue to work here. user:Oshwah We hope (talk) 16:44, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- I'm sorry to see this has driven you away, We hope, but can understand and share your frustration. It's interesting to note that in this comment while discussing PAs etc the admin is admitting to being selective as to who should be reprimanded - I guess that's again endorsing he feels I can be targeted? SagaciousPhil - Chat 06:45, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- I went into this trying to stop the abuse and it happens every time User:Cassianto participates in a box discussion. The other editor "magically" appears and participates in this way. It's happened more times than coincidence allows. He accuses others of pulling stunts and gaslighting against the opposition, but apparently it's perfectly fine with him to pop up and begin insulting on a regular basis in those discuaaions. I have no further content to create-text or visual because I won't continue working here. We hope (talk) 11:58, 14 January 2018 (UTC)