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I saw [[Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:William_M._Connolley/For_me/Things_people_say|this]] and thought it was probably a bad call at least in so far as one argument you presented went. In principle negative comments about edits or decisions made on WP are not PAs. PAs have to be generalisations about their editing pattern or include inference about the editor. I have made 10,000 edits and some of them are bound to be rubbish. I do not think a list of diffs of "bad edits" is therefore disallowed as a PA. Personally had I voted I might have voted delete because of the edit summaries of "twat" etc. But I have copied the bare list in my user space away from its edit history (ie I did not recreate and move) and it is unsurprisingly up for deletion [[Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:BozMo/difflog|here]]. I thought I should let you know. --[[User:BozMo|BozMo]] [[user talk:BozMo|talk]] 12:50, 4 January 2011 (UTC) |
I saw [[Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:William_M._Connolley/For_me/Things_people_say|this]] and thought it was probably a bad call at least in so far as one argument you presented went. In principle negative comments about edits or decisions made on WP are not PAs. PAs have to be generalisations about their editing pattern or include inference about the editor. I have made 10,000 edits and some of them are bound to be rubbish. I do not think a list of diffs of "bad edits" is therefore disallowed as a PA. Personally had I voted I might have voted delete because of the edit summaries of "twat" etc. But I have copied the bare list in my user space away from its edit history (ie I did not recreate and move) and it is unsurprisingly up for deletion [[Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:BozMo/difflog|here]]. I thought I should let you know. --[[User:BozMo|BozMo]] [[user talk:BozMo|talk]] 12:50, 4 January 2011 (UTC) |
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:I agree with you that it is unsurprising to see a recreation of material that was just deleted being put up for deletion itself. As for the appropriateness of compiling a diff list of "bad edits", that is already addressed in an [[WP:UP#POLEMIC|established guideline]], so I was following an established consensus in evaluating the MFD. If we test enough corner cases, I imagine we can find the limits of that consensus, although establishing the page as a violation of a commonly used speedy deletion criterion probably gets it off on the wrong foot. --[[User:RL0919|RL0919]] ([[User talk:RL0919#top|talk]]) 14:32, 4 January 2011 (UTC) |
:I agree with you that it is unsurprising to see a recreation of material that was just deleted being put up for deletion itself. As for the appropriateness of compiling a diff list of "bad edits", that is already addressed in an [[WP:UP#POLEMIC|established guideline]], so I was following an established consensus in evaluating the MFD. If we test enough corner cases, I imagine we can find the limits of that consensus, although establishing the page as a violation of a commonly used speedy deletion criterion probably gets it off on the wrong foot. --[[User:RL0919|RL0919]] ([[User talk:RL0919#top|talk]]) 14:32, 4 January 2011 (UTC) |
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::Sorry to be a bit thick but exactly which bit of the [[WP:UP#POLEMIC|established guideline]] refers to a list of bad edits? If you are up for irony you might look at the four edits of mine which WMC listed (which might be interpreted as expressing exasperation with people testing corner cases...). --[[User:BozMo|BozMo]] [[user talk:BozMo|talk]] 16:43, 4 January 2011 (UTC) |
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Virtual Institute of Nano Films
Dear Sir,
I've seen that you have deleted the page of the Institute I work for: VINF (Virtual Institute of Nano Films). I don't understand why. The institute does exist. It's the organizer of the ECNF, a conference that took place in Belgium in March 2010 and that will have it's second edition in June 2012 in Ancona, Italy. The institute gathers experts in the field of nanofilms. Our latest member that joined the network is Solvay. You can check all of the info on our Website: www.vinf.eu You can also check our existence on the cordis database (European database for projects financed by the commission).
If you need more info, you can contact me (axelle.vanharten@vinf.eu)
Kind regards,
Axelle van Harten —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.247.35.217 (talk) 11:56, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for coming to me with your concern. It is important to understand that the mere existence of an organization is not sufficient for it to have a Wikipedia article. The organization must be notable, as demonstrated by independent coverage of it in multiple reliable sources, such as news coverage or scholarly articles that discuss the organization. Please review the guidelines on this at Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). If there is substantial coverage of VINF that could be used to support an article, then the deletion can be reconsidered. --RL0919 (talk) 13:09, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Soap characters
See Wikipedia:TFD#Characters templates 3. 134.253.26.6 (talk) 21:43, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Ariel Toaff
I see that you restored the section on Passovers of Blood. Please note that this is by no means a NPOV piece. If you read the second reference you'll see that the criticism came first from rabbis that had not read the book, secondly from non-Jewish historians that did not understand Hebrew. The reference (written 3 weeks after the books publication) also asserts that "Toaff believes, Jews did not murder Simonino, just as they did not murder any other child." As such the statement later in the wikipedia article that "Toaff now "concedes" that the accusations of ritual murder, as a common Jewish practice, were entirely Christian fabrications" is misleading.
The third reference in the article are plain weird.
The correct course is for this section to be put in the talk page until it can be cleaned up. --John lilburne (talk) 01:07, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
- Article content is typically cleaned up within the article itself, or in a sandbox page if major rewrites are needed, not shunted off to the talk page. I'm not particularly committed to the exact content that I rescued from the mass deletion of the prior edit, but a preliminary review suggests that the sources are legit and have not been grossly misrepresented. The "concedes" part does seem inaccurate relative to the cited source (or perhaps was sourced from a reference that I did not re-incorporate), so that should be changed. The third reference is an academic book published by a university press, so I'm not sure what makes you describe it as "weird", but it should qualify as a reliable source. --RL0919 (talk) 02:18, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Just for courtesy
I saw this and thought it was probably a bad call at least in so far as one argument you presented went. In principle negative comments about edits or decisions made on WP are not PAs. PAs have to be generalisations about their editing pattern or include inference about the editor. I have made 10,000 edits and some of them are bound to be rubbish. I do not think a list of diffs of "bad edits" is therefore disallowed as a PA. Personally had I voted I might have voted delete because of the edit summaries of "twat" etc. But I have copied the bare list in my user space away from its edit history (ie I did not recreate and move) and it is unsurprisingly up for deletion here. I thought I should let you know. --BozMo talk 12:50, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with you that it is unsurprising to see a recreation of material that was just deleted being put up for deletion itself. As for the appropriateness of compiling a diff list of "bad edits", that is already addressed in an established guideline, so I was following an established consensus in evaluating the MFD. If we test enough corner cases, I imagine we can find the limits of that consensus, although establishing the page as a violation of a commonly used speedy deletion criterion probably gets it off on the wrong foot. --RL0919 (talk) 14:32, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry to be a bit thick but exactly which bit of the established guideline refers to a list of bad edits? If you are up for irony you might look at the four edits of mine which WMC listed (which might be interpreted as expressing exasperation with people testing corner cases...). --BozMo talk 16:43, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Replacing of template:sciuridae-stub with Template:squirrel-stub
I see that when you closed my nomination for moving {{Sciuridae-stub}} to {{squirrel-stub}}, you replaced all instances of the former with the latter. I have 2 comments about this:
- With templates (including stub templates), no need to update the redirects when moving, unless the redirect is going to be either deleted, or used for something else - neither was the case here. This would be a case of WP:R2D, which says that bypassing redirects generally shouldn't be done.
- Please note that stub tags are typicly lower case (such as {{squirrel-stub}}, not {{Squirrel-stub}}. (Not that this should be corrected now, as it would be an edit with no visible difference.) The only exception is when the first word of the tag name is a word which is always capitalized (such as {{California-poli-stub}}), or an abbreviation of such a word (such as {{US-poli-stub}}).
עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:12, 4 January 2011 (UTC)