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Hey Quack Guru! I mentioned you in a post I made over on the NPOV noticeboard, and wanted you to know in case you wanted to respond! Hope all is well! Peace! [[User:LesVegas|LesVegas]] ([[User talk:LesVegas|talk]]) 04:39, 8 September 2014 (UTC) |
Hey Quack Guru! I mentioned you in a post I made over on the NPOV noticeboard, and wanted you to know in case you wanted to respond! Hope all is well! Peace! [[User:LesVegas|LesVegas]] ([[User talk:LesVegas|talk]]) 04:39, 8 September 2014 (UTC) |
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==Important: Could you clarify?== |
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Hi QG, this is important, so please read it and respond. |
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At WT:MEDRS you wrote: |
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:"To clarify, we do cite the [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21440191?dopt=Abstract systematic review 2011] not the older [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20506122 Suarez-Almazor 2010] source for the text. We usually don't use randomized controlled trials (RCTs) as good MEDRS. We typically use the reviews who cite the RCTs and/or other sources." [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Identifying_reliable_sources_(medicine)&diff=prev&oldid=624169446] |
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First question: This sounds like you're acknowledging that when we cite Ernst '11 in the lede, we are citing it as a summation of what Suarze-Almador is saying, as opposed to his summary of the literature as a whole. Is that true? If not, could you explain your reasoning? |
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Second question: Would you please answer my question from WT:MEDRS, regarding your quote above -- and if not, again, could you explain your reasoning? Here: |
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:"Are you agreeing that Ernst's statement "real acupuncture was no better than sham" can be cited for Suarez-Almazor 2010 and only for Suarez-Almazor 2010? If you and other editors agree, then we can close this. (In no way to I dispute what [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Identifying_reliable_sources_(medicine)&diff=624366712&oldid=624365225 Ernst's view of the bigger picture is])." [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Identifying_reliable_sources_(medicine)&diff=prev&oldid=624387625] |
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Thanks! Since you're accusing me of misconduct at Kww's user talk, I'm sure he (let alone I) would very much appreciate seeing a straight, clear answer from you, in order to know you're being clear and aboveboard. We all want to de-escalate and avoid drama, and open communication is the best way to do that. Feel free to either answer here or just cut and paste this and reply at my user talk. Also for question #2, obviously, please go ahead and reply at WT:MEDRS. But please don't ignore either question.... they are very important, imo, to WP:DR right now. --[[User talk:Middle 8|Middle 8]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/Middle_8|contribs]] • [[User:Middle_8/COI|COI]])</small> 12:11, 8 September 2014 (UTC) |