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See talk:South West Pacific theatre of World War II. So that you can see that I know something about the subject see also Talk:American-British-Dutch-Australian Command -- PBS (talk) 15:12, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
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The allied joint commands were not always as simple as the first appear on paper as inter-service and national politics often got in the way. One quote I particularly like is from Bill Slim about Vinegar Joe (you will find its context in the articel Northern Combat Area Command):
- "Stilwell, however bitterly resisted it... To watch Stilwell, when hard pressed, shift his opposition from one of the several strong-points he held by virtue of his numerous Allied, American and Chinese offices, to another was a lesson in mobile offensive-defence."
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- Oh yeah. Still somewhat that way, even all through NATO's peak. It is interesting to watch the War Department/Navy Department alone, even as late in the war there was a growing sense of a single entity that became DoD (and there are fun and games still in there!). As for a true mess the whole thing about SEA Command and the "American centric" CBI with Stilwell and the China thing is perhaps the worst case unity of command violations. It is right here, lingering on if I'm not mistaken. Though not my main interest at the moment I've had reason to look at the "command" structure of pages here. I'd have to check to see how deep, but it looks as if there is an entire category tree of Allied commands and U.S. commands essentially going their own ways and that is really, really bad for an "encyclopedia"—perpetuating rivalry rather than noting and discussing it and its effects. Any thoughts on tackling that problem yourself as I suggested? Would make a good project for the military history people, if they aren't actually the cause. Palmeira (talk) 16:21, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
- The Americans used the term Theater of Operations, but then divided their tasks in two. Administrative and operational. The CBI was an unusual theater because (in theory) it did not have an operational command structure as that chain of command went through SEAC. But the administrative structures were in place to make sure that the American troops were paid, fed, clothed and had access to all the goodies that American troops were provided with that other nations could only envy (eg nylon stockings). So I think that usually there needs to be several articles. A theatre article which describes operational command and the fighting. A command article, for the operational commands (for the details of such a command which are "undue weight" in a theatre article). And for most Allied WWII theatres a "Theater of Operations" article specifically about American Command and administration, (eg Mediterranean Theater of Operations), which if nothing else allows for an explanation of acronyms that may appear in third party reliable sources and allows for an explanation of the difference between administrative and operational commands in the US armed forces.
- I am not willing to get very involved in this part of Wikiepedia at the moment. I was involved years ago when there were only stubs or no article at all (XIV Army of the Burma campaign was well described as the Forgotten Army and that was as true on Wikipedia as elsewhere. One article I am particularly pleased to see develop from my stub is The Hump which is now as useful an HTML article as exists on the net about that subject. However at the moment I have given myself lots to do with cleaning up 1,000 of articles that contain public domain text and templates (eg {{EB1911}}), and when I get board of that (it is not very creative), of working on 17th century British articles (My sandboxes are stuffed with half written articles). -- PBS (talk) 10:11, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
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Re your additions to the List of Empire Ships, the first ship was not an Empire Ship and should be removed from the list. So that your research isn't wasted, Empire Star could be created as a shipindex page and the details transferred there. Feel free to create articles on any or all of the ships! Mjroots (talk) 19:16, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
- Added a note to that effect. If you want to delete it go ahead, though I think that the list in one spot is more informative and less confusing to readers than spreading the thing around. Not that interested in any but the 1935 vessel and that only with respect to the 1940-42 days in Indo-Pacific and the Singapore/Java evacuation in particular. Palmeira (talk) 19:53, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
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