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please give examples bc everything I can find on infowars is real & usually infowars reports things long before other news sites. thanks this is important its defamation & libel & slander <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.47.99.189|68.47.99.189]] ([[User talk:68.47.99.189#top|talk]]) 03:05, 18 May 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
please give examples bc everything I can find on infowars is real & usually infowars reports things long before other news sites. thanks this is important its defamation & libel & slander <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.47.99.189|68.47.99.189]] ([[User talk:68.47.99.189#top|talk]]) 03:05, 18 May 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:{{tps}} See the [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] cited at [[:InfoWars#Fake_news]], as well as elsewhere in the article. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;">[[User:General Ization|<span style="color: #006633;">General <i>Ization</i></span>]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:General Ization|<i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i>]] </sup> 03:09, 18 May 2018 (UTC) |
:{{tps}} See the [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] cited at [[:InfoWars#Fake_news]], as well as elsewhere in the article. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;">[[User:General Ization|<span style="color: #006633;">General <i>Ization</i></span>]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:General Ization|<i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i>]] </sup> 03:09, 18 May 2018 (UTC) |
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Hi there, I have a question regarding that article. A week ago I made a [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=AR-15_style_rifle&diff=840777571&oldid=840693852&diffmode=source revision] to the lead that I thought addressed the concerns some editors raised on the talk page (which were that the word "many" in "many mass shootings" was too vague). That lead to some back and forth reversions, after which you locked the article. That lock expired a few days ago and nothing happened until today, when the lead was changed back to a version from before the 11th, and my attempts to restore it were reverted. |
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I think we have talk page consensus my edit was good, see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:AR-15_style_rifle#More_specific_wording here]. There are five in favor (counting Mr rnddude who wanted something added to the body, which I tried to do today but was reverted) and three against. Maybe more importantly, the arguments put forward by the three opposed are very concise: "Clearly to much detail for the lead" and not "neutral tone" and were hardly expanded on. In favor, there is the fact that this does in fact summarize the body (where all the shootings in question are listed and have been for a while), is not long, is more specific than "many", and is reliably sourced. |
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Could you please advise me how to proceed in a situation where I think there is a consensus, but the opposed editors revert my attempts to follow it? I'm honestly trying to be constructive and improve the article by addressing the concerns people raised. I think there is a strong reaction any time any edit is made that clarifies the role these guns play in crimes and mass shootings. Thanks. <small>'''<span style="color:Olive">Waleswatcher</span>''' [[User_talk:Waleswatcher#top|''(<span style="color:green">talk</span>)'']]</small> 19:08, 18 May 2018 (UTC) |
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Vandalism at Nero Claudius Drusus
Hi! You recently blocked at IP user who was vandalizing the Nero Claudius Drusus article. (Thank you!) Now IP address 2001:48F8:2A:159B:EC72:1317:8582:8750--likely the same person--is vandalizing the article in the same way. Can you please block this new address and lock the article so only registered users can edit it? I appreciate your help and your great work on the encyclopedia. YoPienso (talk) 19:33, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- YoPienso - The IP range is now blocked for one week. I'm going to hold off on protecting the article for now so that I can see if this user is still able to evade their block somehow. It'll let me gather more information and data and apply a more efficient block ;-). Let me know if I can do anything else for you and I'll be happy to help. Have a great rest of your day and I wish you happy editing. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:38, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you! That was quick.
- Actually, there's been some trouble at the Leo Tolstoy article for a few days now. I've rarely requested blocks, but User:Randy Kryn insists on adding an unwarranted detail to the article and is filling up the talk page with his "reasons." I think it's best for the article to not allow Mr. Kryn to edit. YoPienso (talk) 19:54, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, and please study the issue, and I reminded Yopienso about WP:BOOMERANG. The talk page discussions were started by other editors, the request for a source about the inclusion in the Leo Tolstoy article has been provided, and I am answering their concerns in hopefully a respectful and complete way. I agree that it's got to the point where an admin should look in, and I have raised the possibility of taking the discussion to RfC status. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 20:01, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- YoPienso, Randy Kryn - Is this still an issue that I need to look into? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:34, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- As of yesterday, Kryn was arguing for including Bevel in the Tolstoy article, but for almost a week now he has stopped edit warring. Thanks for asking, and sorry for burying this in a totally different request. YoPienso (talk) 06:13, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- YoPienso, Randy Kryn - Is this still an issue that I need to look into? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:34, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, and please study the issue, and I reminded Yopienso about WP:BOOMERANG. The talk page discussions were started by other editors, the request for a source about the inclusion in the Leo Tolstoy article has been provided, and I am answering their concerns in hopefully a respectful and complete way. I agree that it's got to the point where an admin should look in, and I have raised the possibility of taking the discussion to RfC status. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 20:01, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Your help today
Tragically, I missed the latest love letter on my page earlier, although if I were a betting man, and with a header of "RIP", I'd say it was more kills and boom, than Mills and Boon. It's more than likely to be the sick piece of shit who went to Giano's page the other day to speak ill of Kevin Gorman. Anyway, thanks for being so quick off the mark. CassiantoTalk 20:05, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- Cassianto - Yeah, it's pretty messed up shit... and you're very welcome. If you spot any more of that stuff, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll jump on those immediately. I hope you're having a great weekend and that your day is going well. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:09, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Blocked
If a user was blocked they can't edit right?Thegooduser Let's Chat 20:40, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - A user who is currently blocked cannot edit any pages with the exception of their own talk page... unless the admin disables that option. If the user is unblocked or if their block is set to expire and does, they'll be allowed to edit again as before. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:42, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- Just wondering for my User:Thegooduser/alternateaccounts which I requested to be blocked and talk page access revoked.(Yes my request got granted)Thegooduser Let's Chat 20:44, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - If they're blocked with talk page access revoked, then those accounts won't be able to edit anything ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:46, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- OK Thegooduser Let's Chat 20:47, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:52, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- OK Thegooduser Let's Chat 20:47, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - If they're blocked with talk page access revoked, then those accounts won't be able to edit anything ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:46, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- Just wondering for my User:Thegooduser/alternateaccounts which I requested to be blocked and talk page access revoked.(Yes my request got granted)Thegooduser Let's Chat 20:44, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Admin
How many years of editing do you think I need for me to be an admin?Thegooduser Let's Chat 20:53, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Ideally, the community will want to see a minimum of at least a few years of tenure and with a consistent amount of edits to show a solid activity level - but a user's tenure and edit count alone is absolutely not an indicator that you should use to gauge as to whether or not you're fit to be an administrator or whether or not you'd pass an RFA. The criteria that users will generally look for when when judging a candidate are listed on this page (which you and anyone else should absolutely read before running for adminship). To answer your question without going in-depth with it all, is that you're asking the wrong question if you simply want to know how long an editor should have an account for before running. There have been users who have passed an RFA for having an account below the average amount of time than most; likewise, there are users what have been here 11, 12, pushing 13 years - who will never become administrators. If you have any more questions, let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:07, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- Guess I'll never become one Thegooduser Let's Chat 21:10, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Jeez... that's not the attitude you should allow yourself to have... not just with being an admin someday, but like ever... lol. Aside from that, if you're standing in front of the "requirements list" or whatever, and you tell yourself something like that, then you're not only selling yourself short and giving your self-esteem a nice punch to the gut, you're also looking at the whole thing the wrong way. Users who became good administrators didn't stand there and tick boxes and run though the the "RFA hoop" crossing their fingers; they were already doing the awesome things that the community looks for in good candidates for adminship, and the role transitions over to you naturally and without much change to what you already do. This is how you should think about the "pathway" (so to speak) to adminship.
- Guess I'll never become one Thegooduser Let's Chat 21:10, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- Now, don't think for one god damn second that I'm standing here today telling you this because that's what I believed and that this is how it all worked for me and how perfect I was... because I'd be lying to you and trying to put wool over your eyes, big time. At the time that I ran for my first RFA (that failed), I felt that I was ready for the tools. When I ran again the next year, I looked back upon that time one year back and I knew that I absolutely was not ready for the admin rights at the time. Experience, maturity, tenure, so so many things change over time, and I saw it as a good thing that that my first RFA failed. From my lack of maturity and experience, I was blind to it at the time... but then I looked back a year later and where once I was blind, I then could see... I wasn't ready to be an admin and for many reasons. Shoot, standing here today, I could give you a whole list of reasons as to why my second RFA should not have passed and how different things were from then until today. My point is that you shouldn't sell yourself short, and that you shouldn't stand here today and tell yourself that you can or can't do something or will or won't be someone that you ultimately have to work on over time in order to determine if you are... it's not possible to do, and you don't set any goals if you just tell yourself that it'll never happen.... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:23, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
RevDel request
Would you mind RD2ing a couple revisions on [REDACTED - Oshwah]? L293D (☎ • ✎) 00:52, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- L293D - Sure, I can take a look. Email me the diffs I need to take a look at and I will do so. (this would be RD3 by the way :-P) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:57, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Dixon Bloods
It's more accurate as they are not all Somali. What is the correct way to go about editing this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.194.55.7 (talk) 01:16, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there! Is there a reference or source you can provide that verifies that you're saying is true? I apologize if I misinterpreted your edit as being disruptive... let me know. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:19, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Dixon Bloods
Hello, there may have been a mistake as I corrected an article regarding the Dixon Bloods reclassifying them as Black Canadians instead of simply Somalis as backed up by the already listed sources. As these people are Black Canadian citizens based in Toronto, Canada. This correction is completely factual also due to the fact that they are not all of Somali descent which made the ethnicity portion questionable. I was just trying to keep the wiki page up to date and correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LowFlo (talk • contribs) 01:34, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- LowFlo - I understand, but is there a reliable source that verifies this information as true? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:42, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
States and territories in Asia issue
I in no way shape or form intend to vandalize on this website or any of its pages and I always make an effort to be a responsible user on Wikipedia. However, I regret that my edits and modifications have been deemed as such as I am only trying to reflect a more politically correct depiction of what are sovereign states. Also, I understand and acknowledge that Palestine is not a fully forged sovereign state but Me including it in this section does in no way take a subjective and partial stance on the israeli Palestinian conflict or disputed states in genera but solely is due to the fact that it is recognised by 136 (70.5%) of un members and is an observer state of the UN, while the rest of the partially recognised states are all recognised by only 18 or lower UN members and are not members or observers of the UN with no participation whatsoever. I apologise for any inconvenience and I promise to make more positive contributions in the future Talatastan (talk) 01:38, 7 May 2018 (UTC) Talatastan
- Talatastan - My sincere apologies - that revert was made accidentally and I reversed the mistake after it had saved. You can ignore what I said... haha. If you have any questions or concerns, let me know. Otherwise, you should be good to go :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:10, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind help at WP:ANI
Hi Oshwah, thanks for your kind offer of help in response to my concern at WP:ANI:Request_topic_ban_for_new_SPA_Aheezau. (I tried to make wikilink but could not figure out how to do it.)
I was reading your talk page and really valued this quote from you, which also expresses my own, much more amateur viewpoing:
Remember that we here to build an encyclopedia - this isn't a project to write "this is wrong" content, or "this is right" content, ... this is a place to write neutral content. If this causes problems in certain topic areas for you, then you shouldn't be contributing to those topics and instead should be editing articles in different areas. This way, neutrality is maintained and the content added to articles reflect the highest quality and neutrality that can be created and published.
Meanwhile, the new editor Aheezau who was causing my concern has stopped editing for the past 24 hours, so maybe we won't have to worry about him, although a new IP simultaneously showed up at one of his targets, Al Giordano, with a dual goal of adding defamatory material and removing text and citations that show notability. May not be the same person, though. To be clear, I just want an informative NPOV bio of Giordano, as of EVERY OTHER BLP in Wikipedia!
If you look at my user page, you can see my main interests: supporting WP:BLP policy (mostly for people I noticed on Twitter), reviewing AfDs especially for BLPs of women, and drafting text on topics that interest me. I love the Wikipedia project and I am glad you are also part of it. By the way, I speak a little Mandarin and I notice your description of how to pronounce your name includes tone elements. May I ask what language your name comes from? All best, HouseOfChange (talk) 01:55, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi HouseOfChange! It was great to speak to you on IRC not too long ago, and I'm glad you appreciate my quote and enough to put it on your user page. It brings a smile to my face. There's nothing special or foreign about "Oshwah" - it was just a silly nickname that was given to me while I was in college ;-). Let me know if I can help you with anything else and I'll be happy to do so. Hope to see you around and on IRC again, and I wish you happy editing! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:52, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Speedy Deletion Notice Response
The footnote by the author of the source states "The author grants permission to copy, distribute and display this work in unaltered form, with attribution to the author, for noncommercial purposes only." Drawing heavily from the page as a source for an important nuclear accident seems to not break the authors permission. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.106.93.211 (talk) 03:13, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Citing G12: "This applies to text pages that contain copyrighted material with no credible assertion of public domain, fair use, or a compatible free license, where there is no non-infringing content on the page worth saving."
The source in the Fleurus Nuclear Accident of 2006 does not apply due to the above clause and the fact the author of the source does explicitly make provisions for non-commercial use.
Will the page be restored?
Best, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.106.93.211 (talk) 03:21, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Are we talking about the Fleurus Belgium Nuclear Incident article? Looking at the references, it does state this on the bottom of the page as you stated here - you are correct. However, the permissions at the bottom of the page state that it must be in unaltered form (which it was), but the information being cited was not within quotes as required and discussed in Wikipedia's copyright policy. This doesn't mean that the article should have been deleted per G12 as you state here - it just means that I'll need to refer your question to others who are more experienced with this and ask for their input too. If they agree that this is not a copyright issue, then yes the page can be restored no problem. I'm going to ping Huon and TonyBallioni for their input regarding this situation - stand by. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:19, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- The copyright notice says, "in unaltered form, with attribution to the author, for noncommercial purposes only". Wikipedia considers only those licenses free enuogh that allow everybody to re-use and modify the content for any purpose, including commercial purposes - more precisely, they must be compatible with the CC BY-SA 3.0 license. We cannot make use of content that others may not modify (since anyone editing that Wikipedia article would violate the "unaltered form" requirement and thereby unwittingly commit a copyright violation) and that cannot be re-used commercially (that's more a philosophical requirement; Wikipedia wants its content to be as widely reusable as possible and thus does not accept a "non-commercial only" restriction). Huon (talk) 00:35, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- I concur with Huon. Non-commercial licenses are not compatible with Wikipedia. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:54, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Huon, TonyBallioni - Good call by the both of you; thank you both very much for providing input and for double-checking my thoughts :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:01, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
My edits were constructive
Hi, my edits were constructive. It is unacceptable to insist on using incorrect terminology and medically inaccurate descriptions and phrasing. I don’t know why you think my edits weren’t constructive or why you reverted them. I wrote this Medium article about you here. I think it is a gender inequality issue that the information quality in the Wikipedia page for the clitoris is so abysmal and I believe this is reflective of the gender imbalance on Wikipedia as a whole.
I suggest you take a look at a real live clitoris. Alternatively, since those may be difficult to acces and confusing to you, you may also find slides and cadaver dissections useful. The clitoral cavernous are visibly easy to differentiate from the glans. Histologically these structures are separate and composed of different types of tissue. Obviously the glans is never much longer than it is wide. Consider how ridiculous it is for this article to claim an average “longitudinal diameter” of 5 mm and then say the glans is 1.5-2 cm long. Also consider how claiming the clitoris is over 3 times longer than it is wide contradicts the claim elsewhere that it is the size and shape of a pea.
I realize that Wiki editors insist that incorrect information mistakenly published in “reliable sources” should be repeated. But this is clearly ridiculous. There is only one “reliable source” claiming the glans is 1.5-2 cm long and that author has personally emailed me confirming that was a mistake. Believe it or not, even medical authors make mistakes! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jessicapin (talk • contribs) 04:36, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Jessicapin, for the last time: You are not a reliable source. Also, out of curiosity, when a source states that the clitoris "is a short, cylindrical, erectile organ," do you doubt that the source is solely talking about the glans (like some scholarly sources have noted), given that the clitoris is not simply a short, cylindrical, erectile organ? Here we have an "Oxford Desk Reference: Obstetrics and Gynaecology" source, from OUP Oxford, page 471, stating, "Clitoris: it is a short, cylindrical, erectile organ at the superior portion of the vestibule measuring approximately 1.5–2 cm in length and 1 cm in width." I take it you interpret the source to be talking about what you stated on your talk page -- the external body and glans? Well, as long as we have reliable sources stating "external body and glans" for the "1.5–2 cm in length" part, it's fine for us to state that. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 05:00, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- “A short cylindrical organ” would apply to both the descending segment of the body and the glans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jessicapin (talk • contribs)
- Jessicapin, sources would need to state that. This is what I mean by WP:Synthesis. Even though so many sources are talking about the glans clitoris when they state "clitoris," I avoid stating "glans" unless the sources do. This is to avoid WP:Synthesis. There are sources that state that the average clitoris is 1-1.5 cm long, and then there are ones that state the average clitoral glans is 1-1.5 cm long. We can only go by what sources state. Also, regarding this, you keep stating that, but you keep coming back. That's because you are as passionate about the topic of the clitoris as I am. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 07:11, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- “A short cylindrical organ” would apply to both the descending segment of the body and the glans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jessicapin (talk • contribs)
- Hi Jessicapin, and thank you for leaving me a message here with your thoughts and concerns regarding the edits you've been making to the Clitoris article. I'm sorry to see that you're frustrated over the dispute - and on top of this, I owe you an apology for warning you and stating that your edit to the article was vandalism. While this issue and dispute is clearly over content-related matters on the article, your changes were not vandalism and it was not right of me to warn you and call it such. That shouldn't have happened and I'm sorry for that.
- Moving past that, I do see that there's an ongoing dispute on this article with the content you've been trying to modify and that there's been push-back from others as a result. I also see that you've been active on the article's talk page and participating in discussions there. This is awesome, and I encourage you to continue doing this and to continue working to resolve the dispute properly. Outside of the article itself, you seem to be trying your best to do the right thing - you're collaborating on the article's talk page and you're trying to work with the other editors involved in order to try and come to a consensus with all of it. You'd be surprised as to how many people choose not to this and instead resort to being disruptive in order to try and solve the problem. Just make sure that you don't continually make repeated back-and-fourth reverts to the article, as this would constitute edit warring. This behavior is disruptive and doesn't ultimately resolve anything, and I don't want to see you get into hot water or wind up blocked for doing so. Whether or not your proposed changes are found to be correct and/or an improvement to the article or not, I feel that you should have a fair and respectful place and environment to discuss it with others, and I'll do my absolute best to make sure that you do. If you have any questions or further concerns, please let me know and I'll be more than happy to answer them and help you, I'll make sure that you proceed going down the right paths in order to bring the dispute to a resolution and close. I hope you enjoy your day, and I wish you happy editing and all the best :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:02, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Jan Hirt
Hi Oshwah. Quick question about your edit on Jan Hirt - is it simply someone socking, or something else going on? I do see a few of these type of edits crop-up on my W/L from time-to-time (expanding terms for now defunct countries, etc). Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:56, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Bump. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:56, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- Lugnuts - One sec, I'll take a look. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:05, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- Lugnuts - This IP, through their edits made to other articles and a report filed against them, was determined to be a repeat vandal and hence I reverted all of their live edits from these findings (including the edit to Jan Hirt that you saw). I didn't have any more involvement from there - I would just keep an eye out and make sure that these random edits you see on your watchlist are accurate, and ask for references if you have objections. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:23, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 06:58, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Lugnuts - This IP, through their edits made to other articles and a report filed against them, was determined to be a repeat vandal and hence I reverted all of their live edits from these findings (including the edit to Jan Hirt that you saw). I didn't have any more involvement from there - I would just keep an eye out and make sure that these random edits you see on your watchlist are accurate, and ask for references if you have objections. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:23, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Lugnuts - One sec, I'll take a look. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:05, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
removed content
Are you having trouble with "math"? It may not be 2+2, but its not far from it. If you can't figure it out from the thread, may be the info in square brackets will sink in.
On Feb.9, you pulled my "WARNING" [from "ear candling"] cause it wasn't "neutral" enough. Yet you allow statements from the medical profession; which we know is COMPLETLY UNBIASED AND "NEUTRAL" in a topic like this, and would have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO GAIN by declaring ear candling "dangerous" {>,.<} Why is there NO contributions from alternative therapy practioners? #Hmmmm? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.88.106.215 (talk) 10:12, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- TPS note The IP is referring to this revert. L293D (☎ • ✎) 13:57, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Your "warning" here seemed to be a non-neutral method of adding your opinion and stating that you disagree with the content. You put the word expert and dangerous in quotations which both imply a point of view, as well as added this: "And if its true that Canada has considered the procedure so "dangerous" that they've gone to the overkill extent of outlawing it, that would indicate that there's some validity in ear candling". This is why I reverted your edit and warned you about Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. If you wish to fix what you believe is wrong with the article and the content, feel free to add neutral content and cite reliable sources in-line with your changes. This is what will help improve the article. Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns, and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks for the message, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:29, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Re: Message
The edits to Epileptic Seizure are common knowledge and can be found on any medical source/first responder information. All edits are correct and should be returned to the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gobucks821 (talk • contribs) 13:48, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- To clarify: you've removed *correct* medical advice for how to respond to a *medical emergency* from that article. Suggested to replace.*** — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gobucks821 (talk • contribs) 13:54, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Gobucks821, and welcome to Wikipedia! I assume we're talking about the edits made to Epileptic seizure here, correct? None of the content added was referenced by any reliable sources, which is why the content was removed. It looks like the changes made to the article have since provided some - this is what I was looking for. On a side note, I also highly recommend that you review this section of Wikipedia's policy regarding what Wikipedia is not designed to be. This includes being a guide or a place for instructions or advice - especially when it comes to medical advice. Wikipedia is not the place to go to for this information and you may find yourself running into push-back from other editors over this fact and with that content, so just keep this in mind ;-). If you have any more questions or concerns, please let me know and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks again for the message, I welcome you to Wikipedia, and I wish you happy editing here :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:48, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Jell-O
I reverted your reversion. Poor English correction is not a test edit. 104.129.196.161 (talk) 14:47, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- I actually meant to revert a different revision and not the one you made - my apologies, and thank you for letting me know about this and for fixing it :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:53, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Special:AbuseFilter/684
Yo Oshwah! I wanted to let you know I've disabled Special:AbuseFilter/684, as it seems the target vandal has moved on. Feel free to re-enable if you think it is still needed. Cheers — MusikAnimal talk 16:26, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- MusikAnimal - Sounds good to me! Thanks for letting me know :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:27, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Fred Zinnemann
Hello I have made one correction in Fred Zinnemann article. It is about his place of birth. I added source to Polish archives. I hope it is good enough citation. I am not sure if I should translate the name of archive. If I should, I do.
Best regards Slawomir Prec 2A02:A31B:8001:8700:5873:9FF6:AF4:565 (talk) 16:36, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Awesome! Thanks for locating and providing a source! I'll take a look at it in a few moments, but I'm sure it's fine. Some source is better than no source ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:38, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Racism in Europe
Hi Oshwah. My addition to Racism in Europe did not make the information more biased, but in fact made it less biased. I'll add the information back in to provide the reader with a full picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.104.142.198 (talk) 17:38, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi. Thanks for letting us know you wanted to be reverted. I have reverted you and placed some helpful information on your user talk page. You should read that stuff. Chris Troutman (talk) 17:56, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- It seems that many other editors disagree with the content you're adding to this article (the diff I reverted is here), and it seems like you're edit warring with others in order to keep the content added to the article - please don't do this. Instead, you need to resolve the dispute properly and create a discussion on the article's talk page and participate with the others involved so that a consensus can be reached. Resorting to edit warring is not allowed and can result in being blocked from editing temporarily. If you have any questions about resolving this issue properly, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message, and I wish you good luck with getting the issue resolved peacefully :-). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:53, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
The wilds of the 'Pedia can be rough sometimes, so here's a little something to help get you through.
Sario528 (talk) 18:02, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Sario528 - Thanks for the kitten! And I appreciate your message. Wikipedia can be rough, but it's not something I'm not used to ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:02, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Chief Minister Manohar Lal Khattar CV
Hi I needed information regarding his education qualifications as well his timeline in political career. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.186.2.89 (talk) 18:21, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- This appears to be a question for the help desk if the article itself doesn't provide this... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:44, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Cross-XfD page moves?
Hi,
I just saw Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nick Joong, and was wondering if cross-XfD page moves are permitted? It seems pointless to have to archive the erroneous one and start an entirely new nomination. Adam9007 (talk) 20:13, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Adam9007 - Good question. I'm not sure, to be honest. I would imagine that each XfD probably has their own template variations and all, and this would cause confusion with statistics and report pages if we began cross-moving them between others and without updating the templates used (assuming that they are different). It would probably be easier on everyone to have you just close the discussion that's currently open and that needs to move, and then create a new XfD in the correct place and using their creation process. However, I could be completely wrong and you may be able to do it just fine. However, it's a better idea to close and re-create the XfD (since it's the safest option that we know won't cause any template mishaps or other issues) until you figure this out for sure. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:19, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Well, the page would need to be tagged with {{mfd}} and the AfD log moved there, but I think it could theoretically be done. This is under the assumption that it is the redirect's target that was meant to be nominated and not the redirect itself, which I think is obviously the case here (not to mention that redirects go to RfD rather than AfD anyway). Adam9007 (talk) 21:19, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Great Migration
You deleted my edit. Hmmmm...Not sure that you are well informed regarding the Great Migration. Please do some research and help me tell the real truth.
I improved my post.
Let's talk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:643:8200:FA3B:20C3:E2B3:AD2C:6F0 (talk) 21:02, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there! The revision that I actually reverted was this one, as it adds opinionated commentary and content that clearly represents a non-neutral point of view. This is why I reverted the content here. You also added this content beforehand, as well as this content after my reversion was made - both which were reverted by other editors for neutrality issues and the lack of reliable sources provided. I urge you to review these policies and guidelines so that you understand the issues with your edits completely, and do not hesitate to let me know if you have any questions about them. I'll be happy to answer them and help you further. Thanks for the message, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:54, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
New Page
Can you please do VfL Herrenberg?Stombari2 (talk) 22:43, 7 May 2018 (UTC)Stombari2
Palestine
Dear oshwah
For the following reasons below, I am requesting that the number of sovereign states in all wikipedia related articles be 195- the 193 members of the UN, observer Vatican City, and observer state of Palestine (note; this was written in a fully objective and fact based basis and holds no prejudice or double standards in any of the sovereignty disputes regarding the partially recognized states);
- unlike the other states with limited recognition (abkhazia, Taiwan, North Cyprus, Kosovo, etc), all have 113 (~57%) or less recognitions by the UN, while Palestine has 136 recognitions, which amount to ~70.5% of the UN, which gives it limited recognition, but far beyond the partially recognised level. Additionally, states like China, Cyprus, Armenia, and Israel are also disputed by one or more UN members and still have sufficient enough recognition
- None of the states with partial or no recognition (including Kosovo) have neither member or observer status in the UN and do not participate in anyway while palestine is an observer (alongside Vatican City, another non member sovereign state)
- Contrary to popular belief, despite its limited recognition, no country (not even the ones that do not recognize Palestine) except Israel disputes palestinian sovereignty over the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem and actually support the creation of a Palestinian state in these territories, a goal also recognized and supported by the UN while the rest of the partially recognized states all are either (partly or fully) recognized as part of other countries and neither is their right to statehood.
- The UN did not fully reject Palestine, as it has granted it non member observer STATE status (along with some rights such as a permanent mission, it’s flag in its HQ, the right to join international conventions, etc), it is designated as ‘the state of palestine’ in official UN documents, and its observer status vote in 2012 ( among most votes on the issue ) witness an automatic majority. In addition, the security council did not reject the application for statehood in 2011, it just that UNSC members grew divided on the issue and was unable to muster a consensus. It is the palestinians that decided to put it on hold due to US pressure among other threats
I sincerely hope that the editing community will change Palestine’s categorization in all related Wikipedia articles, and this was all written in a neutral, objective, and fact based manner.
Talatastan (talk) 23:08, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Talatastan and thank you for leaving me a message here. It appears that you have personal points of view with this topic, and that NeilN has already talked to you about this topic sufficiently on your user talk page. Because of the heated and contentious nature of this topic, discretionary sanctions have been authorized for all articles and content that is in relation to the Arab–Israeli conflict (broadly construed). Furthermore, as explained by NeilN, editors who are not extended confirmed (have an account that's at least 30 days old, and have made at least 500 edits) are not allowed to modify content in this topic area. I highly recommend that you participate and focus your efforts toward other articles where this topic isn't present so that you can gain experience and become proficient with Wikipedia's various policies and guidelines, and I'm sure by then that you'll understand why we saw issues with you editing content in this topic area. If you have any more questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:06, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Palestine #2
Sorry for all the inconveniences and I hope that you will consider my proposal caarefullly thx
Talatastan (talk) 23:23, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Another happy helper
You may be interested in a new editor's contribution to Mmmm!. Certes (talk) 23:59, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Reverting my edits on Greg Haberny's page
Hi There Oshwah Greg Haberny Greg Habernyhas requested that I update his Wikipedia page for him. I tried to remove some out of date external links on 22:55, 5 May 2018 (UTC) and you reverted them. I've now added some new links and removed the outdated links again (some of them lead to pages that no longer exist). I hope I've done this correctly this time (I took your advice and checked out some tutorials). I'm not sure whether it will help alerting you but I will be making more edits to this page in the next few day (upon the request of Greg Haberny)Greg Haberny. Many thanks LSmith2018 lsmith2018 LSmith2018 02:16, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi LSmith2018, and thanks for leaving me a message here and for letting me know about this. I apologize for the confusion that my revert and warning may have caused, and I appreciate the message and for letting me know what was going on. It looks like some unreferenced BLP violations have since been removed and rev del'd so it looks like this issue has been resolved. If you still have issues or concerns regarding this page, let me know and I'll be happy to take a look. On a side note, the fact that you're editing this article under this subject's direction is problematic, as it introduces a conflict of interest concern and jeopardizes the neutrality of the article content. You may receive push-back from other editors because of this, so do be warned. Thanks again for the message, and I hope you have a great rest of your weekend. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:26, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
154.160.4.198
154.160.4.198 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
FYI, you blocked this IP indefinetly. Didn't know if you meant to do that or not. Thanks. 77.235.46.52 (talk) 04:40, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- That was by accident. Thanks for catching that and for letting me know - Fixed. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:42, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Thank you sir! Prior to my finding of you I struggled to manually look over recent changes, but your account has shown me that there are better and more efficient tools designed to help people do that very thing. I cannot thank you enough for the example you have set not only for me but for all of this site.
AlbertOfPrussia (talk) 07:48, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
The censorship question
Hello Oshwah, when I had suggested your talk page I had thought of a more private environment in which I wanted to reply to the nice statement you made at Talk:Main Page#Has censorship has become de rigueur at Wikipedia?. But since then several things happened: More and more people involved themselves, including someone who reverted a message on my own talk page, and finally User:Isanae (BOLDly, as it seems to me), declared your page a better location for the whole discussion, redirecting everyone here. Is that OK with you? Already when I first posted the message I acknowledged that in general the Village Pump would be a better location for such a general topic. That has only become more so now that the problem has widened to more and more people. ◄ Sebastian 08:10, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- Sebastian - Sure, I don't mind. My talk page is completely open and everyone is welcome here. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:18, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you; it is pretty clear now that this isn't just about you. Cutting off others seems to really have become de rigueur here; I was cut off yet again from getting replies from at least one person I directly addressed at Talk:Main_Page. But we'll see, maybe they'll follow the redirection to reply here. Or maybe I'll decide to post something on VP, after all. ◄ Sebastian 08:45, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- @SebastianHelm: The main page's talk page is for discussing the content of the main page, it's not a general forum for discussing policies and behaviour. Since you had agreed to move the discussion over here, I closed it as being resolved. I may have misunderstood. Feel free to reopen it. Isa (talk) 08:20, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- User:Isanae, if I may give you some advice: If one wants to avoid misunderstandings it generally helps to ① not be rash and ② take the time to read what another person wrote. Your action on Talk:Main_Page took place less than seven minutes after the last post, which looks a bit rash to me. Your post here, in which you talk down to me as if I still needed to be explained why Talk:Main_Page isn't the best page for this discussion seems to indicate that you didn't read my statement above in which I said just that. ◄ Sebastian 08:45, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- I received your email, SebastianHelm. I have some real life things to take care of, but I'll get back to you as soon as I can. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:21, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
IP hoaxer
Here's another new hoax - Draft:Thylacoline by User talk:50.32.152.230, who has previous form for doing this sort of thing - see the earlier example on his talkpage. The article was again created in talk space, and then moved to draft space by another editor not familiar with his MO. Bahudhara (talk) 08:53, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- Bahudhara - Has this been resolved? Or do I still need to look into this for you? Let me know... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:43, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Oshwah, Anthony Bradbury deleted the draft as a (G3: Blatant hoax) just a few hours after I posted my message on your talk page, and the IP hasn't made any edits since 6 May, so there's no need for you to take any action at this time. Given his past history I expect that he will reappear, but it may not be for several months - his editing habits are rather erratic and unpredictable. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 09:01, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Please lock my alt accounts
Hello Oshwah, because I have a crappy password on my alternate accounts please lock them across all Wikimedia projects. Thanks! you can find it here. Thegooduser Let's Chat 14:15, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Just for information, Oshwah can't block accounts on projects they're not admins on; that kind of thing is more in the scope of stewards, though I don't know whether they honor requests like this. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 14:18, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- It's only because they have a crappy password. Thegooduser Let's Chat 14:19, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- You could...change the password? (And I didn't mean "can't" as in "doesn't want to" or "would but it's against the rules", I meant "is physically unable to"; admins only have tools for the projects on which they've explicitly given them; if we haven't been made admins on other projects, we don't have any of the admin tools on those other projects.) Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 14:20, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- It would get my IP blocked because those accounts are blocked.Thegooduser Let's Chat 03:39, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Attempting to log into an account while it's locked will simply prevent you from doing so. That's all that a lock does in a technical aspect - it simply does not let anyone log into the account from any WMF project website... so if these accounts are already locked, you're good and there's nothing more you need to worry about ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:43, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- It would get my IP blocked because those accounts are blocked.Thegooduser Let's Chat 03:39, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
- You could...change the password? (And I didn't mean "can't" as in "doesn't want to" or "would but it's against the rules", I meant "is physically unable to"; admins only have tools for the projects on which they've explicitly given them; if we haven't been made admins on other projects, we don't have any of the admin tools on those other projects.) Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 14:20, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- It's only because they have a crappy password. Thegooduser Let's Chat 14:19, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Blanket temporary semi-protection for RuPaul's Drag Race season articles?
Hi Oshwah, I notice that you're active with requests for page protection, so I'd like to ask you a question. I'm not sure whether it would be appropriate to make a blanket request for brief, temporary semi-protection for all RuPaul's Drag Race season articles. There has been a high volume of IP vandalism, mostly to the infoboxes, of virtually all of these articles, and I notice that this behavior may be perpetuated as an in-joke circulating on Twitter [1] [2] [3]. Some of the show's former contestants/winners have retweeted screenshots of the joke edits [4] [5], and at least one vandal happily took credit for their work [6].
Certain seasons have experienced more vandalism than others, especially season 2 (which you already semi-protected) and season 6. I've also reverted multiple acts of vandalism on seasons 3, 4 and 5 in the past 24 hours, so do you think the kind of blanket protection I've suggested is reasonable? Armadillopteryxtalk 15:18, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- This seems to be calming down on its own already, so never mind :-) Armadillopteryxtalk 23:26, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- Armadillopteryx - Okay, let me know if things pick back up again and I'll be happy to take another look. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:48, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks :-) In the past couple of days there have been about 2 or 3 incidents of such vandalism per day, which is still more than usual but is not unmanageable. Armadillopteryxtalk 08:11, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Scott Wilson (bodybuilder) updates
Hi,
Saw your note about my changes on 'Scott Wilson (bodybuilder)' page. I'm not well versed in the process here. He was my father, and I was just trying to update his Wikipedia page to note that he passed away on Sunday night. As for sources, I'm not sure what I could use on that front at the moment, other than maybe an online article from Generation Iron who wrote about his passing (surely after seeing the mention of it on the popular "This is bodybuilding" Instagram page) who sourced me reporting it since I'm friends with the owner of that page and let him know my father had passed. So its likely a rather circular source.
Scott — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.204.229.97 (talk) 15:46, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Would this work as a source? (the previous referenced article) https://generationiron.com/veteran-old-school-bodybuilder-and-powerlifter-scott-wilson-passes-away-at-age-67/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.204.229.97 (talk) 15:51, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Hi Scott, my condolences for your loss. The source you have linked in your comment above would be okay to cite the information you want to add to the article. Please note that Wikipedia has a conflict of interest policy that discourages editing articles whose subjects you are close to. However, I think that in this case, when you just want to add a small piece of factual information to the article, it's okay as long as you include the source between <ref></ref> tags. Armadillopteryxtalk 15:58, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- Armadillopteryx - Even if we could verify the IP user's claim to be true or not, this is definitely a conflict of interest issue and we shouldn't be encouraging editors who have such a conflict of interest to edit the articles themselves and put content neutrality at risk. Remember that it's much better for content within an article to be completely well-referenced and neutral throughout but be somewhat behind with the latest information, than to be (what is believed to be) "up-to-date" but without reliable references and with neutrality compromised due to COI edits - especially when it comes to making claims that a BLP is now dead. Wikipedia has gotten into hot water in the past over allowing these claims to be published only to find out that they were in fact hoaxes and due to a large effort to troll the internet. We should instead encourage them to create an edit request so that their desired changes can be reviewed and added by someone else. This will both allow the editor to file a request, as well as keep neutrality in check by having the request evaluated and scrutinized first before such changes are added to the article ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, that makes sense, and is noted for the future! The IP added that statement to the page (with the source) and has not since edited the article. After going over to check on the situation, I ended up rewriting and adding inline citations to much of the article anyway. Armadillopteryxtalk 08:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Nice - even better! Thanks for doing that, Armadillopteryx! Keep up the excellent work! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:03, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, that makes sense, and is noted for the future! The IP added that statement to the page (with the source) and has not since edited the article. After going over to check on the situation, I ended up rewriting and adding inline citations to much of the article anyway. Armadillopteryxtalk 08:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Armadillopteryx - Even if we could verify the IP user's claim to be true or not, this is definitely a conflict of interest issue and we shouldn't be encouraging editors who have such a conflict of interest to edit the articles themselves and put content neutrality at risk. Remember that it's much better for content within an article to be completely well-referenced and neutral throughout but be somewhat behind with the latest information, than to be (what is believed to be) "up-to-date" but without reliable references and with neutrality compromised due to COI edits - especially when it comes to making claims that a BLP is now dead. Wikipedia has gotten into hot water in the past over allowing these claims to be published only to find out that they were in fact hoaxes and due to a large effort to troll the internet. We should instead encourage them to create an edit request so that their desired changes can be reviewed and added by someone else. This will both allow the editor to file a request, as well as keep neutrality in check by having the request evaluated and scrutinized first before such changes are added to the article ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Your report on me making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia / Vandalism on Supa strikas
Please care to explain what kind of vandalism i have done It was a constructive edit made in Supa Strikas and i have written that only after watching the episode twice!!! and the same thing is written in other words now so what is the use of it??? if possible please let me know what should be and what should not be written in an wiki article Thank you Vishnu2602 (talk) 16:28, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- Vishnu2602 - I owe you my sincere and humble apologies for the removal of your edit and the warning I left you - it looks like this was done accidentally to your edit instead of someone else's. I've stricken out the warning I left you, and I encourage you to add the content back that you originally intended to. A copy of what you added can be found here. Please let me know if you have any questions or further concerns and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks for leaving me a message and for letting me know about this, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:09, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
THanks a lot for your reply i was really worried :) and also thank you for your prompt action Vishnu2602 (talk) 17:53, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
One for you here
...I'm guessing, by the user page, this is someone you've pissed off. They are starting to add deletion tags to articles I've created.[7]. I thought I'd give you the satisfaction to block before I take it to the boards. CassiantoTalk 19:41, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oh, sorry, didn't read your last sentence. Sorry for stealing the glory :P Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 19:44, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- I posted on the commons AN and they deleted the image as harassment and blocked them there as well. (perma link). (cc CassiantoWrit Keeper --TheSandDoctor Talk 07:57, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
I didn't mean that :) i was just saying that the same thing was written by me and is reported as vandalism so i got a bit confused please feel free to keep the glory no offense meant ;) and i am really new to this so ........... Vishnu2602 (talk) 07:12, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
- Vishnu2602 - No worries; see my response above. It was a revert that was made accidentally, and your edit seemed to be perfectly fine. If you have any questions or concerns, please let me know in the discussion above and I'll be happy to help you further. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:10, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
IP block exempt
Hello Oshwah. Please grant me IP block exempt so when I change the passwords on my blocked doppelanger accounts I won't be blocked form editing. Thanks!Thegooduser Let's Chat 03:10, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)@Thegooduser:--Why do you need to change the password(s) of your now-blocked doppleganger accounts?~ Winged BladesGodric 05:05, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Winged Blades of Godric: Probably thinking of it due to the message that went out about failed login attempts. Probably wants to make it more secure (although I realize that it is not needed due to block), Thegooduser? --TheSandDoctor Talk 06:55, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
- TheSandDoctor Yes. It has a bad password.Thegooduser Let's Chat 01:31, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
- The accounts are indefinitely blocked as is though and could not edit even if they were compromised. If you use the bad password in other places, I would definitely consider changing it elsewhere though. I don't think there is must of a concern when it comes to the passwords on the indef blocked accounts. With that said, that is just my opinion though (but I don't have a strong one either way). What do you think Dlohcierekim? --TheSandDoctor Talk 02:17, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
- The account is not blocked across all projects only the EN Wikipedia. Thegooduser Let's Chat 02:21, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
- I blocked my dead accounts. Not worried about them. I would change any off-wiki passwords. I did change my off-wiki passwords. I changed the password on this account. A 30 byte password would take more than a decillion years to crack. But I generally honor a request if I cannot see the harm. I'm easy.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 03:18, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
- Just login on another project and change the password from there. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:11, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - You can log into these accounts on this project, too. It won't make any difference; they're just blocked from editing pages on this project. Being blocked doesn't stop you from being able to change the password on your account, or other things such as your user preferences or options. Just change them to be strong passwords and you'll have nothing to worry about :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:12, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Just login on another project and change the password from there. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:11, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
- I blocked my dead accounts. Not worried about them. I would change any off-wiki passwords. I did change my off-wiki passwords. I changed the password on this account. A 30 byte password would take more than a decillion years to crack. But I generally honor a request if I cannot see the harm. I'm easy.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 03:18, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
- The account is not blocked across all projects only the EN Wikipedia. Thegooduser Let's Chat 02:21, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
- The accounts are indefinitely blocked as is though and could not edit even if they were compromised. If you use the bad password in other places, I would definitely consider changing it elsewhere though. I don't think there is must of a concern when it comes to the passwords on the indef blocked accounts. With that said, that is just my opinion though (but I don't have a strong one either way). What do you think Dlohcierekim? --TheSandDoctor Talk 02:17, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
- TheSandDoctor Yes. It has a bad password.Thegooduser Let's Chat 01:31, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Winged Blades of Godric: Probably thinking of it due to the message that went out about failed login attempts. Probably wants to make it more secure (although I realize that it is not needed due to block), Thegooduser? --TheSandDoctor Talk 06:55, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Pretty nice.
Hey hey, buddy. Recent edit summaries on my talk page have been consisting of foul language and I would like them removed. May you please do this? Thanks! DatGoodDude342 (talk) 13:48, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
- Done ~ Amory (u • t • c) 17:45, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
- Amorymeltzer - Thank you for taking care of this request while I was away :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:13, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Time to move some PERM templates?
It's been a while, and they seem fine, so is there any reason not to move User:Oshwah/Templates/ACCPRightPlace, User:Oshwah/Templates/RVWRightPlace, User:Oshwah/Templates/PPRightPlace, and User:Oshwah/Templates/PMRRightPlace to subpages? Can't imagine there'd be any opposition. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 17:44, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
- Amorymeltzer - Sure, I don't see it as a bad idea at all ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:18, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Arab israeli article dispute
Dear Oshwah,
I have received your warning regarding the arbitration of Arab israeli related articles. However, I have complied with recent warnings not to break with Wikipedia consensus, as I have appealed to the editing community BEFORE making further edits, and I only listed Palestine as a UN OBSERVER, and I did not add it to the rest of the UN members. I regret and reprehend the irresponsible arbitration by some editors regarding this dispute and I am in no way tied with their actions. I vow to continue to fully comply with all community guidelines and request consent BEFORE making any edits, and I wholeheartedly apologize for any inconveniences I have initially caused myself. In respect to community guidelines, I will not, from this point on, edit any related Arab israeli conflict articles and I am now disassociating myself with this dispute or any unilateral actions taken by vigilante editors. However, I wish that any recent edits I have made will be kept.
Talatastan (talk) 12:03, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
- See the response I made to your original message on my user talk page above. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:14, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk Page Archive
I have been trying to get my talk page to automatically archive. But I don't think I got it right. It seems that every time the bot runs, It archives it to Here. How do I get it to work like yours dose? I can't seem to find the archive script on your Talk Page Source. Thanks! Also Sorry en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Oshwah&direction=prev&oldid=840539947 . I undid it as soon as I released it. I was trying to add this. I woke up early today. Lakeside Out!-LakesideMinersClick Here To Talk To Me! 15:29, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) As far as I know, Oshwah archives his talk page manually (like [8] and [9]). You can automate the process if you like. Take a look at the code in the box that says "Archives by year/month" at this page. Currently, the code on your talk page is running "Sequentially numbered archives" so it'll switch to a new archive only when the previous one is filled to 150k bytes. Jiten talk contribs 16:53, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
- LakesideMiners - Jiten D is correct; I perform the archiving on my user talk page here completely manually and I don't use any bots to help me do so. It should be as simple as adding yourself to a list so that an archive bot will do it for you automatically, but again - I've always just done it myself ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:16, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Parlez-vous français?
Hi,
Do you reckon that this IP is really unaware of how Wikipedia works? Or are the edits deliberate vandalism? He doesn't seem to have edited the French Wikipedia (as I directed him to), and I'm not sure if he's making personal attacks or not (my French is extremely rusty, and I don't want to rely on Google Translate). Not sure if I ought to assume good faith here or not. Thanks. Adam9007 (talk) 00:10, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
- Geolocates to Oregon. I gave him 2 weeks to reconsider his distaste for stupid English speakers. je ne parle pas français.. And I hate it now more than ever.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 00:21, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
You've got mail
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.John from Idegon (talk) 04:33, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
- Actually, take a look at his contribution list. Everything is worthy of hiding. John from Idegon (talk) 04:44, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
- John from Idegon - I just responded to your email. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:50, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Revdel request
Could you please revdel all revisions after revid=837384505 in article B. Valarmathi uptill my edit — FR+ 10:36, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
- Force Radical - Done by Diannaa. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:18, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Santa Fe, New Mexico
You have Santa Fe, New Mexico as part of a category of "Populated Places Established in 1610." According to THE ARTICLE ITSELF, and all pertinent sources associated with it, Santa Fe was founded in 1607. As you can clearly see from the excerpt below, and as I clearly explained when the CORRECTION was made, the year 1610 was NOT the year the town was founded -- it was the year the town founded three years earlier was named the capital of the Nuevo Mexico province. OBVIOUSLY, whoever put 1610 in the infobox MADE A MISTAKE and should have put 1607 instead -- since 1607 is the year the town was founded, not 1610!
I did not cite a source when I made that CORRECTION because the sources were already cited in the article -- somebody simply made a keyboarding error and entered the wrong date in the infobox!
"New Mexico's second Spanish governor, Don Pedro de Peralta, however, founded a new city at the foot of the Sangre de Cristo Mountains in 1607, which he called La Villa Real de la Santa Fe de San Francisco de Asís, the Royal Town of the Holy Faith of Saint Francis of Assisi. In 1610, he designated it as the capital of the province, which it has almost constantly remained,[10] making it the oldest state capital in the United States."
2601:645:C300:C1C:D180:3295:19F9:13ED (talk) 12:29, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- Ah, okay. If other sections in the article also state this, then yes feel free to fix that. I apologize if I misinterpreted your particular edit to be the incorrect one. Please let me know if I can assist you with anything and I'll be happy to do so. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:22, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
2O
Saw your log entry here via OTRS - good RD3, no need for OS. Primefac (talk) 00:43, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Primefac - Thanks for the input, and I agree that suppression is not needed here. I'll leave things be as-is then :-). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:40, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
are u a reel bot — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bepocarrot (talk • contribs) 01:20, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not, but you might want to try my alter ego. Primefac (talk) 01:38, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Oshwah, Readsomescience has continued to vandalize and edit war at California Gold Rush after your most recent warning. Since these were their first edits after returning from a two-week block for the same behavior, stronger measures appear needed. Thanks you for your help. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 02:10, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for the prompt response. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 02:47, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- BTW, Could I ask you to revert their last addition of their screed? I don't want to breach 3RR myself. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 02:55, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Eggishorn - No problem, and the edit made by Readsomescience has been reverted by someone else. Please let me know if I can assist with anything else and I'll be happy to do so :-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:20, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- BTW, Could I ask you to revert their last addition of their screed? I don't want to breach 3RR myself. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 02:55, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Re
This IP is often involved in editing war. I think that I would warn him when his edits are in dispute. In fact, there are multiple users who warned him, but he did not improve, so if he is warned again, hoping to pay attention to his edits.:In addition to other questions, he edited the same project on the English Wikipedia and Chinese Wikipedia.However, the content written is exactly the opposite.So I don’t trust his editor.I once asked him why he did not respond..--O1lI0 (talk) 02:39, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- O1lI0 - The "edit war" that you speak of involves the IP users' own user talk page, which the user by policy is allowed to remove comments, messages, warnings, etc from their own talk page like this (with a few exceptions - they are listed in that policy I linked you to). This is also listed as an exemption to the three-revert rule. I closed the AN3 report you filed as "no violation" because I wasn't sure if you know about this or not, and I didn't want to see your account blocked over this if you didn't. Please take this as nothing more than a friendly note and remember this going forward; no big deal :-). Please let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks for the message and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:26, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Response to your earlier message
Hi oshwah,
I have been made aware of the editorial sanctions placed on articles related to controversial and contentious issues like the Arab-israeli conflict, and I intend to fully comply and respect them as a responsible user of your platform. However, it is not that I am going about these modifications based on my personal feelings towards this issue ( although I am part Palestinian ), I am just solely trying to make a more accurate representation of sovereign states as defined by Wikipedia regardless, and I would have done the same thing even with states like abkhazia and north Cyprus, given that they had wider state recognition and were members or observers of the UN. In short, I vow to distance myself from editing already established articles on the Arab israeli conflict, but all that I propose and that I wish would be implemented by the editing community is that the number of sovereign states, as defined by Wikipedia, only include UN members (193 nations) and the two observers, regardless of whom. Please do not interpret this as some absolutist and nationalistic incentive on my part, im solely just going by the UN definition
Talatastan (talk) 02:46, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Talatastan, and thank you for responding and for following-up with the conversation above. Since your account doesn't meet the tenure and edit count requirements, you won't be able to directly edit content in this topic area (even if such an article isn't protected). Instead, you're welcome to create an edit request with the changes that you feel should be made to the article's content. After you publish the request, another editor will review and evaluate your request and update the article for you (assuming no issues, problems, or other concerns were found). Make sure to include the exact content that should be changed, along with the references and sources that are needed in order to verify the accuracy and legitimacy of what needs to be modified. Making an edit request will help accomplish what you're trying to do (which is to fix what is believed to be inaccurate content) while respecting the policies that are in-place over this particular topic, and it will keep you out of trouble since you're not attempting to update the content directly yourself (even though the particular article is protected). Please read and follow the instructions I provided in the link above and let me know if you have any questions regarding the edit request process. I'll be happy to answer them and help you if you get stuck anywhere. Thanks again for the response, and I wish you the best of luck with your request :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:34, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Cherie Gil changes
Hello,
yes I edited the page - as she is my Auntie. Her real birtday is June 21 not May 12. She told me to change it. As well as her name. :D
120.29.112.59 (talk) 05:20, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message here with this information. Sorry, but assuming that your statement is true and that you're editing this article under the direction of this person - this represents a conflict of interest with the article subject and is editing behavior that's very highly discouraged by the community. You're free to make an edit request instead, as it will allow others to review and apply the edit to the article for you (assuming no problems are found). You also need to locate and reference reliable sources to verify the accuracy and legitimacy of what you believe to be the person's correct birthdate - citing yourself as "knowing the person" and "editing under her direction" isn't sufficient. If you have any questions regarding how to properly proceed and how to create an edit request, let me know and I'll be happy to help you. Thanks for the message and I wish you good luck with your edit request :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:31, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Edgardo Angara
He died this morning of May 13, 2018 as announced by his son, Senator Sonny Angara. My source is GMA News. EDITOR685422 (talk) 05:38, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- EDITOR685422 - Please add this reference you found to the article's talk page so it can be reviewed and verified. I'll be happy to take a look at it... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:39, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- I couldn't find the GMA News report yet, but here is the report from Rappler. EDITOR685422 (talk) 05:41, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- EDITOR685422- The reference you listed has me concerned, as it only uses someone's Twitter account to verify the information. Twitter accounts can be easily hoaxed, hacked, many things - to appear legitimate and state false or inaccurate information. Nonetheless, go ahead and add a new talk page discussion and list the source you added here, but it will take the verification of more than one reliable source before I would consider updating the article - especially given that it's a biography of a living person and subject to much more strict scrutiny than most other articles. Let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message and the follow-up. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:46, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- I couldn't find the GMA News report yet, but here is the report from Rappler. EDITOR685422 (talk) 05:41, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- This is the official Facebook page of GMA News reporting Angara's death. I think there's no need to doubt it, since a large news network already announced it. Thank you. EDITOR685422 (talk) 05:50, 13 May 2018 (UTC) EDITOR685422 (talk) 05:50, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- The Facebook link you provided is referencing this URL: http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/653202/former-senator-edgardo-angara-passes-away/story/
- Go ahead and add it to the article's talk page under the first reference you found. It's looking like this information is confirmed... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:53, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- I have added the reference to the talk page already. Thank you very much. EDITOR685422 (talk) 06:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- This is the official Facebook page of GMA News reporting Angara's death. I think there's no need to doubt it, since a large news network already announced it. Thank you. EDITOR685422 (talk) 05:50, 13 May 2018 (UTC) EDITOR685422 (talk) 05:50, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Can I ask you a question? Why am I still blocked from editing the article? EDITOR685422 (talk) 06:18, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- EDITOR685422 - The article has been protected so that only accounts with at least 30 days' tenure and at least 500 edits can modify it - see this page for more information. This protection was applied after a confirmed account modified the article and added a death date and information without any references at all to support it, which is highly against Wikipedia's policy regarding biographies of living people. This is to assure that unreferenced changes and information aren't added to the article during the time that news surrounding this person's death is just being released and published. It'll be automatically unprotected in a few days. In the meantime, you're still able to create an edit request and request changes be made to the article. Another editor will review your request and apply the change for you (assuming no issues or concerns are found). Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for your messages and I wish you happy editing :-). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:24, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
I now understand. Thank you very much. I'm a relatively new editor but I have been using Wikipedia for a very long time. I do have one question... I try to upload images to Commons but I can't seem to comprehend the provided instructions... Can you help me? Thanks! EDITOR685422 (talk) 06:29, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- EDITOR685422 - Sure, I can help. What page are you using to try and upload this image? Did you try using the upload wizard to help guide you through the process? If not, give the wizard a go - it'll help answer what questions you may have. Let me know if you still have questions or need assistance and I'll be happy to do so. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:31, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
I tried to use the upload wizard, but once I click it it doesn't show anything (it just refreshes the page). See, I wasn't using it on a computer or laptop, because I use my phone (IKR) to edit articles. I know it's a stupid platform to upload images in. Nevertheless, thanks for the help. I really really appreciate it. EDITOR685422 (talk) 06:34, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- EDITOR685422 - You're saying that when you click on the link, "Click here to start the upload wizard" - that nothing happens and you don't see any forms or anything following that? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:40, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Yup. Nothing. The page just refreshes and I see "Click here to start the Upload Wizard" again. That's pretty weird if you ask me. EDITOR685422 (talk) 06:42, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- EDITOR685422 - You probably have Javascript disabled in your browser (either for this website or for all websites), which would cause this to happen. This is due to the fact that the Upload Wizard uses javascript in order for it to function. I would verify that Javascript is enabled and allowed to execute on Wikipedia, or simply try using a different browser to perform the upload. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:44, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Now I know. I'll see what I can do. Thank you very much, my friend! EDITOR685422 (talk) 07:15, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- EDITOR685422 - You bet; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:16, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Also, Angara's infobox birthdate is written as "May 13, 2018". You may wanna fix that. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by EDITOR685422 (talk • contribs) 07:18, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Admin's Barnstar | |
Good job Oshwah. Adminor (talk | contribs) 08:05, 13 May 2018 (UTC) |
- Hi Adminor! Thanks for the barnstar! I really appreciate it and I'm happy to see that you're happy (at least I hope you're happy) with my edits and actions as an administrator. It means a lot :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:08, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Redaction
Can I ask why you redacted my ANI comment made at08:59, 13 May 2018?Slatersteven (talk) 09:14, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Slatersteven - The page revision contains the IP address of a user who edited while logged out, so I removed the IP address and redacted the article text (along with a few revisions before your edit) so that the user's private information isn't exposed to the public. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:16, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry it looked like you removed something I had said, I just wanted to know if it was something I had said. I would like to know what I had written though (as I do not recall).Slatersteven (talk) 09:25, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Slatersteven - Nope, it had nothing to do with your edit at all :-). The edit you made to that revision was the addition of the comment, "As others have pointed out it is clear that 72bikers has a serious issues with misunderstanding (and then enforcing those misunderstandings ) of policy.Slatersteven (talk) 08:59, 13 May 2018 (UTC)" ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:31, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Ahh OK.Slatersteven (talk) 09:32, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Slatersteven - Let me know if you need anything else and I'll be happy to help. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:34, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Ahh OK.Slatersteven (talk) 09:32, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Slatersteven - Nope, it had nothing to do with your edit at all :-). The edit you made to that revision was the addition of the comment, "As others have pointed out it is clear that 72bikers has a serious issues with misunderstanding (and then enforcing those misunderstandings ) of policy.Slatersteven (talk) 08:59, 13 May 2018 (UTC)" ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:31, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry it looked like you removed something I had said, I just wanted to know if it was something I had said. I would like to know what I had written though (as I do not recall).Slatersteven (talk) 09:25, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Sock block
Hello. Would you mind blocking Special:Contributions/92.4.228.196? They're an obvious sock of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Shingling334. See report at WP:AIV for evidence. Cheers, - Tom | Thomas.W talk 11:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thomas.W - Done. I also blocked The accout229432 as a sock puppet of Shingling334 as well. Please let me know if you see any more and need my help and I'll be happy to take care of it ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:06, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Bela Baramad Khel Or Bela Abid khan son of Nasir khan
Bela baramad khel is village of flowers ...bela baramad khel is also called bela Abid khel....Nasir khan and his sons Amjid khan,Wajid khan,Sajid khan,Majid khan and Rahid khan are the kings of this village.... For further details contact with king Abid Jani on this number [REDACTED - Oshwah] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asfhsrh34 (talk • contribs) 12:43, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Revdel
Hi Oshwah, can I ask what the revdel on Anne-Marie (singer) was about? The username was also removed...was this a vandalism account named targeting somebody? Ss112 13:04, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Ss112 - In short, yes. The username tried to impersonate themselves as the person and added a BLP violation to the article using the account. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:06, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Autism
Judging from your interest in Wikipedia and your photo on your userpage, can you confirm whether you have autism? --Ktaginza (talk) 13:32, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
It is true! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Debjitpal65 (talk • contribs) 13:35, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
You deleted my edit
Desquamative gingivitis is seen in postmenopausal women. I am a dentist and I'm sure I'm right. Also, it is seen in atrophic lichen planus, not in erosive. Zohashaikh01 (talk) 14:18, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Zohashaikh01 - Your edit did not cite or include a reliable source to verify the accuracy or legitimacy of the content you added - you need to do this, and include it in-line with the content. Please review these guideline pages and let me know if you have any questions. Thanks for the message, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:20, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Please read info on link below
http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/this-debilitating-disease-might-have-totally-unexpected-origins/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.127.67 (talk) 15:55, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not sure exactly what article or page your request relates to - can you please elaborate so I can understand? Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:59, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Anne C. Steinemann
Is being edited by Anne C. Steinemann as 149.135.39.208 (talk · contribs). See user talk:Jim1138#Anne C. Steinemann for revelation. I did put a COI on her talk page. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 17:51, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Jim1138 - Well, the user claims to be this person (and good call on the COI notice)... lol. Thanks for the message and the heads up. Let me know if things get out of control and I need to step in, and I'll be happy to take a look. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:54, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
RevDel
Hi Oshwah - would you mind RevDeleting [[REDACTED - Oshwah] this] per RD2 if you feel it qualifies - probably best that it doesn't stick around. Thanks! Richard0612 18:43, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Richard0612 - Done. Let me know if I can do anything else for you and I'll be happy to help. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:47, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks on both counts! Richard0612 18:48, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Richard0612 - You bet; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:01, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks on both counts! Richard0612 18:48, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Quim Torra
Hi, I requested protection for Quim Torra, because of disruptive editing. You fully-protected the page, I think semi-protection would be sufficient, because there hasn't really been much disruptive editing from autoconfirmed users and the page is still very young and requires more information. Also, it would be good to extend the period a little bit, because the subject is very likely to be elected president of Catalonia tomorrow, which is not going to help this cool down. wikitigresito (talk) 19:54, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Wikitigresito, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your concerns regarding the protection I applied to Quim Torra. After taking another look at the article and the content and editors involved, I've lowered the protection level to extended confirmed protection instead. It will accomplish the same result (being fair to all users involved) but without restricting extended confirmed editors from being able to modify the article (no editors involved in the dispute have this flag). Aside from this, the dispute is content-related and the fair thing to do without giving any editors an advantage over another is to protect the article so that all users involved are required to discuss the dispute on the article's talk page and cannot modify the article during the time the protection is active. The protection will expire in two days. Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns, and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks again for the message, and I hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:14, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for the reply. Now I understand the logic behind full-protection. I was considering this acts of disruptive editing, but taking a step back, I agree with you that it falls under content dispute. wikitigresito (talk) 20:29, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Wikitigresito - Sure, you bet. Please don't hesitate to let me know if I can do anything else for you. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:31, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for the reply. Now I understand the logic behind full-protection. I was considering this acts of disruptive editing, but taking a step back, I agree with you that it falls under content dispute. wikitigresito (talk) 20:29, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Advice on how to respond to a user who will not engage
Hey, so I'm dealing with an IP user on the PLA Marine Corps and PLAAF Airborne Corps page, and were in a disagreement over the name of the organization. I started talk page sections on both pages and on their user pages, but they won't engage with me outside of edit summary. I'm limiting my reverts since I do not want to engage in an edit war, but I'm at a loss at how to deal with the situation. How would you recommend I proceed, and if I did something wrong or incorrect, can you please point that out as well? Thanks. Garuda28 (talk) 20:10, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Garuda28! Sure, I'll be happy to offer some advice here. Looking at People's Liberation Army Marine Corps, I definitely see where the IP is reverting your edits and continuing to modify the article while ignoring your request to discuss the matter on the article's talk page. I checked through this IP range's contributions, and they've made zero edits to the talk or the user talk namespaces. I've left an edit warring notice on the last IP address that was used to edit the article. I'd say that continuing to edit the article is fine (just don't revert or change the user's edits repeatedly). If the IP user reverts your edit again, file a report at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring and make sure to note that you tried creating a talk page discussion to no avail, and that the user continues to revert your changes without any attempt to communicate and despite the warning that was left on their user talk page. This will easily show that you're doing the right things and the IP is not, and an administrator can take action from there. Sometimes, when dealing with a user who refuses to communicate or attempt to resolve the dispute properly, you just have to hold their edits and reverts to policy and report the user to the proper noticeboard if they repeatedly violate policy. These particular situations with users who refuse to communicate are rarely easy to deal with or have a solution that's "black and white", but I find that this is the best method to resort to when you've tried your best to communicate and do the right things and to absolutely no avail. Please let me know if I can help you with anything else and I'll be happy to do so. I wish you good luck with this situation and I hope it comes to a peaceful and positive resolution. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:31, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you! This is the first time I’ve dealt with this, so it was a little confusing. I think my plan will be to wait a day (so the IP has an opertunity to respond), then go through the article and restore the name. If it is reverted then go to the notice board. Does that sound like a good plan of action?Garuda28 (talk) 20:34, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
How can you do it? You are Marvelous
Hey sir, i just checked that you nearly edit 1300- 1500 daily. That is unbelievable. Are you a robot or do you have a robot? Sir please tell me how you do this unbelievable task. I am hugely impressed. Thank you sir. DCEU (talk) 21:15, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi DCEU! I appreciate your message and the kind words :-). Nope, I'm a human (even though many editors have questioned this... haha). I use various programs and tools provided as well as scripts I've written to make the majority of the edits that I perform - they only require a few clicks or the push of a key to use, so don't be too impressed with the number of edits I make ;-). I participate in recent changes patrolling and revert vandalism and other disruptive edits - it's a project area that typically results in participants having a higher-than-average amount of edits. The important thing to remember is that we favor quality over quantity and that edit counts are really just a number... it doesn't asses whether or not I'm a proficient user, and it shouldn't be used to judge whether or not an editor is experienced enough for a certain role or user permission (see the "Quality, not quantity" section on this page for more input). Again, I appreciate your message very much, but I also want to make sure that I respond with the right reply and that I tell you (as well as everyone else out there) good information and ultimately what's important here (and what else really... not so much). I hope you have a great rest of your weekend and I wish you happy editing. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:27, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
No subject
Dear Oshwash Please ignore my email below. Many thanks and regards Matteo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matteocone (talk • contribs) 23:49, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Raymond Ackerman Wikipedia page
Dear Oshwah I added the URL https://mc1a.wordpress.com for Mr Jack Goldin as he was the founder of Pick n Pay from whom Mr Ackerman purchased the 4 Pick n Pay stores. On the URL https://mc1a.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/king-of-the-clicks-empire/ Mr Ackerman tells in more details of his acquisition of the 4 Pick n Pay stores. I would you to please reconsider my request and allow the small change to go through as it was Mr Ackerman himself who wrote about Jack Goldin in his book entitled "Hearing Grasshoppers Jump" Published 2001. Mr Ackerman gave me permission and allowed to add the excerpt on the Jack Goldin website. In view of the above may I ask you to allow me to add the link to Mr Jack Goldin's name. I thank you in anticipation. Best regards, Matteo PS May I please ask you to take a few minutes to read the following paragraphs as they are related to how Raymond Ackerman negotiated with Jack Goldin. https://www.google.co.za/search?q=tribute+to+jack+goldin&rlz=1C1CHZL_enZA796ZA796&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=6IpAj9iQI59SCM%253A%252CSxhgyLPLgt8bxM%252C_&usg=__3el6tZwJUOIItGC152td67G8E20%3D&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjElZTl1oPbAhXLCsAKHRAiB-4Q9QEwB3oECAAQRA#imgrc=6IpAj9iQI59SCM: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matteocone (talk • contribs) 22:07, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Matteocone - Your message above said that I can ignore this message you left here... is everything okay? Did you get this resolved? If not, let me know and I'll be happy to help you if you feel that you need it. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:36, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for your kind response Oshwash, much appreciated. Regards, Matteo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matteocone (talk • contribs) 06:09, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Again impressed!
Sir, you again impressed me with your nice way of talking and also long reply. Many experienced editors don't reply that long or that nicely you did. Infact you answered very very nicely. And it doesn't matter you have tools or just push of a key to perform edits, you are doing a great job on wikipedia. Sir, people like you are contributing a great time and work for making Wikipedia a better place. Working endlessly like a robot. And i think you are definitely a robot ( haha). Sir i also hope you have a great rest of your weekend and I also wish you happy editing. Very thanks sir for your great reply. DCEU (talk) 22:11, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- DCEU - People accuse me of being a robot, but so far mobody has been able to prove it :-P. Thanks again for your kind response here - I was very pleased to see how my earlier reply to you meant a lot and that I was able to help you. I appreciate the complements and the enthusiasm - I hope that you stick around as an editor and become a long-term user here with us. If you have any questions or need my help with anything, let me know and I'll be happy to do so. Thanks again, and best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:40, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you very much sir for your kind reply. I am looking forward to become a experienced editor. So thanks for letting me know that if i need your help then i can get it. And one question sir if you don't mind replying, is that your photo on your user page; that long hair?. Thank you very much sir and for your kindness.DCEU (talk) 12:11, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- DCEU - Awesome! That's excellent to hear, and I can't wait to see you learn and grow, become an experienced editor, and become "high in the ranks" with the rest of us :-). Great, please don't hesitate to ask me anything if you run into questions. HA! I get asked this a lot. Yup, that is a real photo of me and that is my real actual hair and with nothing special done to it ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:13, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you very much sir for your kind reply. I am looking forward to become a experienced editor. So thanks for letting me know that if i need your help then i can get it. And one question sir if you don't mind replying, is that your photo on your user page; that long hair?. Thank you very much sir and for your kindness.DCEU (talk) 12:11, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Yes i am sure sir.DCEU (talk) 19:47, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Resume
I made some edits to the page. Can you tell me what was wrong with them? I've made a new account.
Thanks
Personal Brander (talk) 23:50, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Personal Brander - The reason I applied protection to Résumé was to stop the back-and-fourth edit warring that was going on. It was not meant to imply that there were issues with the changes you were trying to make, nor does it imply that there were issues with the editor who was reverting your changes. Just take the dispute to the article's talk page and start a discussion there so that the dispute can be resolved. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:43, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your quick response. Now that I've got an account I will go and address it there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Personal Brander (talk • contribs) 04:27, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Deletion of {{Persondata}}
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Börje Salming edit, yes I think you were hasty in reversing it
Hello
I was in Oshawa (Ont.) last night, May 12. I’m a huge fan of Poe, Dali, James and Twain. So we have no reason to feud.
You are a guardian of the Börje Salming entry, so I assume you must have seen him play. It therefore surprises me that you reject my simple addition that he was “an outstanding skater and passer of the puck.” Everybody who played in or followed the NHL in the 1970s said the same thing. I do not think what I added can be said to be non-neutral (or incorrect or disputable).
I also added a few lines under the heading “International Play”, a paragraph that was otherwise very threadbare. I added objective facts that can be confirmed by clicking the Wiki link (that was already there) to “1976 Canada Cup.” Surely you see how improved the passage became. It is true that I added an unsourced line (the one about Dennis Potvin); however what I said is widely known, and given that everything else I added was verifiably correct, you may have given it the benefit of the doubt.
best wishes Alistair W — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.81.193 (talk) 02:33, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Your edits to Börje Salming were reverted due to adding opinionated content and commentary to the article content - just read through what you added and it's quite obvious. You need to review and understand Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy before you make additional edits to articles. If you have any questions about this policy, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for the message, and I hope that you follow my advice :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:48, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, consider WP:PEACOCK. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:08, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Darbhanga
Why Am I Not Being Able To Edit The Page "Darbhanga"! Its Says That It's Protected!!!! Please Unprotect The Page So That I Could Be Able To Put Some Valuable Informations Over There!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erlich bChman (talk • contribs) 06:54, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Erlich bChman: Firstly, sign your message next time. Secondly, the page is semi-protected because the page has undergone persistent sock puppetry. Thirdly, you can edit semi-protected pages after 7 days and 10 edits. Fourthly, the semi-protection of Darbhanga expires on 19th May, 2018. Lastly, don't expect administrators to do something for you if you demand or yell at them like a general. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 09:18, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 07:17, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Cahk - Done, thanks for the heads up. If you see any more, let me know :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:19, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Edits to Emmanuel school page
Hi Oshwah,
Firstly I appreciate you pointing out my citation errors, I am looking to learn from my mistakes and improve as a wiki editor.
Secondly I am a student at the college and know the new motto, as it was announced 3 days ago, it has not yet been updated on the school website but they will probably update it as the week goes on. So how do I cite it.
Finally, I included reference to a former student who has done our school very proud and I think he should be on our list of notable students, their is nothing online about his recent academic aclades so I don’t know who to cite.
Thanks, Emmanuel community contributions captain 2017/ 2018 Peter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cc. Emanuel (talk • contribs) 08:24, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Cc. Emanuel, and thanks for leaving me a message here regarding your edits made here to Emanuel School, Australia. The content you added was not referenced by any reliable sources - please take time to review this guideline for identifying reliable sources (see the link), as it will help answer your questions and address your concerns. You also need to understand Wikipedia's guidelines on the nobility of people before you add people to lists like this, as only notable people should be added to them. If you have any questions about Wikipedia's guidelines on identifying reliable sources or the notability of people, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:36, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Nonivamide
Hi we are chemicalbook editing team. We have professional editors working for our website, which is a chemical website. We saw that some of your words are not complete that need to be added with more information, so we added it with our own contents, is that ok? Note: all our contents are reliable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chelsea2200 (talk • contribs) 10:55, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Chelsea2200 - You're referring to yourself in the plural first-person... are you sharing this account with other users in your group, or is this account representing the edits by more than one person? Are you being paid or compensated for your edits to Wikipedia? See this page regarding what you're required to disclose if this is the case. Also, you state that you (or "we") are the "chemicalbook editing team"... this makes your addition of the chemicalbook.com reference here original research as well as conflicts of interest and is not allowed. I think you need to evaluate your intentions and what you're trying to accomplish here, as well as review Wikipedia's policies and guidelines - you appear to be in violation of numerous policies in many aspects, and we need to work to get this resolved... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:09, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Persistent sock
Hey there – thanks for blocking the latest sock. As this person is being rather persistent with their creation of these accounts, feel free to add Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/LukaRuckels to your watchlist. I'll keep reporting any suspicious activity – thanks. 4TheWynne(talk)(contribs) 12:03, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi 4TheWynne! It's good to talk to you again! I hope things are going well for you. Sure, no problem - always happy to help. I'll try and keep eyes on the SPI, but you might have to ping me and let me know if a new user appears and I don't see it - as you can imagine, I have a lot of pages on my watchlist, etc ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:06, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Re: McDonald's
yeah, you might want to check taco bell too — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjd american author (talk • contribs) 13:35, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Sjd american author: Both were reverted by Oshwah. The Taco Bell one was reverted within the same minute that this was posted. With that said, I would strongly advise that you cease editing disruptively or you will eventually be blocked. Rather than being (eventually) blocked, why not help us build an encyclopedia and edit constructively (fix typos, add sources, etc) instead? If you have any questions, please do let us know. --TheSandDoctor Talk 13:54, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
More vandalism at Nero Claudius Drusus
The week-long ban is over, so we have the IP from Sioux Falls once again vandalizing the article. YoPienso (talk) 13:38, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- YoPienso - Thanks for the heads up - Actively monitoring the page for continued disruption... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:41, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. Wouldn't just locking the article be the best fix? YoPienso (talk) 13:44, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- The user appears to be trying to explain their edits in the edit summary, and the edits by the IP have stopped (at the time of this writing, at least). I'm going to hold off on doing anything until I get a better sense of what's going to happen. If the disruption picks up, then yes protecting the article is an option ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:46, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. Wouldn't just locking the article be the best fix? YoPienso (talk) 13:44, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Odd Behavior of a User
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slatercj01 I feel like something strange is going on with this user, their edits look all the same and appear to be almost all new pages. Could you check it out? Thanks! Lakeside Out!-LakesideMinersClick Here To Talk To Me! 15:05, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- LakesideMiners - It looks like this user just has a lot of edits to the "Now that's what I call Music!" CD albums - are there specific edits by this user that's causing you concern? The more you can elaborate will help me to make sure that everything is A-OK :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:09, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Just the very large amount of them. I just had a strange feeling about them, so I thought I better ask. Do you think that maybe we could merge all of those articles? It seems a bit odd to have them all separate. Lakeside Out!-LakesideMinersClick Here To Talk To Me! 15:16, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- LakesideMiners - Are we sure that such a main article doesn't already exist that lists each album? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:18, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- O...Lakeside Out!-LakesideMinersClick Here To Talk To Me! 15:20, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Also, what happend here? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:174.115.30.220&oldid=841193842 ? Lakeside Out!-LakesideMinersClick Here To Talk To Me! 15:21, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- LakesideMiners - I had your username copied to my clipboard, and I thought I had copied the article title so I could warn them - it didn't copy. So I accidentally inserted what I previously copied (your username) instead of the article title.... whoops! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:23, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- LakesideMiners - Are we sure that such a main article doesn't already exist that lists each album? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:18, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Just the very large amount of them. I just had a strange feeling about them, so I thought I better ask. Do you think that maybe we could merge all of those articles? It seems a bit odd to have them all separate. Lakeside Out!-LakesideMinersClick Here To Talk To Me! 15:16, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Help avoiding an edit war
Oshwah, as the closing editor of this discussion [[10]], I was hoping you might offer some suggestions/recommendations for dealing with the same subject editor's proposed edits to the Colt AR-15 and AR-15 style rifle pages. We currently have an active discussion related to the material that caused the ANI you closed [[11]]. At the end of that section Waleswatcher has proposed making article changes despite the contentious talk page discussion of the material. The same editor is proposing nearly the same behavior here ([[12]], again see end of the discussion). In the second case we just had an informal RfC with 21 responses that resulted in no consensus for similar changes. It seems like making such changes would be reckless rather than bold. I also feel, based on some of the editor interactions, their may be an intent to antagonize (refusing to allow the minor correction of a swype error and posting a pedantic warning to my talk page after being told they were forbiden from making such edits to my talk page [[13]]). I'm not going to get dragged into another edit war but I don't think this editor understands that such reckless editing isn't cool. Do you have any suggestions for how do best deal with something like this. I don't think we are at ANI levels but this is the sort of behavior that often eventually leads there. Thanks for any suggestions. Springee (talk) 17:43, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Springee - When it comes down to the "bread and butter" of it all - it sounds like the user is intent on continuing with making their edits and while the discussion on the article's talk page is ongoing and without waiting for a consensus first. If this is the case, then their edits will be disruptive; simply revert them and notify the user that this is not okay while a discussion is ongoing (just don't edit war... haha). If they repeatedly do it, file a report at AN3. When it comes to these kinds of situations, you sometimes just have to hold their edits to policy and take action if they keep going. Given all of the discussions and warnings given to this user - they clearly know that what they're doing is going to be seen as disruptive. If they choose to proceed, then they just need to be held accountable for the disruption ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:00, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Would this be forum shopping? ["AR-15_style_rifle"_of_the_article_"Colt_AR-15"_to_the_lead_of_its_parent_article] Springee (talk) 21:51, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oshwah, I pinged you with respect to the same editor and the AR-15 style rifle talk page and edits. Do you have any moving forward suggestions here? The editor has been informed of how WP:CONSENSUS suggests handling a lack of consensus for a change [[14]] and seems to insistent on continuing this battle. I think a ANI is next based on the examples above, the forum shopping RfC that was closed (my last post) and this morning's edits. Anyway, I'm not going to take any more actions until I have some guidance. Thanks! Springee (talk) 14:57, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Recent unblocking of AdMinor
This is at AIV again. I don't want to over-ride your unblocking here. But Adminor is still editing. And quite frankly, I think this is a sock. Just a random selection of the user pages they're adding welcome to, seems to be creating the user (no user edits, no deleted edits, no filter log): Potent Ant, Govindarajsgr2212, Sheikh arbaj, Christhuphus - there's a lot of them. One I did find interesting is Bayani.portier made their only edit at the EXACT MINUTE that Adminor placed a welcome on their page I don't have Check User, but someone ought to check this out. — Maile (talk) 17:49, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Maile66 and thanks for leaving me a message with your concerns. Don't worry about "over-riding" or "stepping on toes" with me - other administrators are welcome to modify, remove, or re-apply any admin actions I've performed and I won't mind at all (just let me know that you did so and why, etc). If there are suspicions of socking (which I've been watching for as well), we should file an SPI with evidence and make a decision from there about what to do. Until this happens, I'm (and you of course) are bound by policy to apply administrative actions only where a justifiable and acceptable level of evidence and confidence exists and can be explained upon being asked to do so. In this situation, the block placed on this user was only in regards to their username and it being potentially confusing by containing the string "admin" within it. The user followed the instructions given and I unblocked the account due to the fact that the original reason no longer applied. I'm not trying to be a "wikilaywer" here or come off as a "all policy, no common sense" kind of guy, but this what we're given and we need to follow policy so that whatever actions are taken are done with the confidence that we did the right thing :-). In the end, I agree - if there are suspicions or things don't appear to "smell right", it's for a reason and it's worth looking into in order to check if the suspicions find evidence or have merit ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:07, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) @Oshwah, @Maille: Just FYI. Cheers, —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap shit room 18:12, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Maile: Reping, sorry extra notification O. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap shit room 18:14, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
My User Page
Hey hey, buddy. Regarding your edit to my user page, it appears that I cannot edit it anymore. I would like for you to consider switching the level of protection down to at the very most semi-protection so I can edit it. After all, it IS my user page. I'm pretty sure confirmed and auto-confirmed users won't mess with it, so there's that. Please consider this. Thanks! DatGoodDude342 (talk) 18:11, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- DatGoodDude342 - So.... I'm an idiot. I accidentally applied template protection to your user page instead of extended confirmed protection. I apologize for this and I have fixed the protection level to be correct - you should now be able to edit your user page without any issues. Please let me know if I can help you with anything else, and I'll be happy to do so. Again, please accept my apologies for the mistake and I hope you have a great rest of your day. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:13, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oh no no no, don't worry about this!! Mistakes happen all the time. Seeing that you already have a LOT going on, it seems that a mistake wouldn't be too easy on your part to spot. You have been forgiven, friend. Have a good one. DatGoodDude342 (talk) 18:18, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Need you to monitor an IP User, please
Heya. I've got this IP User who wishes to add in information regarding auditions for BGT, in particular for Britain's Got Talent (series 11), but I find it hard to understand why they haven't attempted to look at the discussion on the article's talk page, regarding such information. The problem is, they appear to have not regarded my advice about them considering the issues that such information makes to the article, and have not provided any citations to provide some proof to what they are including. Could you keep a watch on them? I'm concerned they will persist upon doing this, and could possibly get disruptive on the matter. GUtt01 (talk) 18:25, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- GUtt01 - Okay, I'll take a look in a moment and see what may be going on... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:00, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
edits
i was just telling people their role and u said NO — Preceding unsigned comment added by Epic games ind. (talk • contribs) 18:27, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
I saw the User:O1lI0 who put this AfD forward has been banned, I was wondering if that should be noted in the AfD and if should be auto'ed to keep? Govvy (talk) 20:53, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Govvy - Nah... I'd just let the discussion run its course and treat it as if it were any other AFD - No need to add irrelevant details to it and risk the discussion getting off-track. That being said, the AFD is definitely going to be closed as keep unless someone makes a compelling argument to delete it and with strong reasoning. However, this situation doesn't warrant the need to intervene and take actions that are outside the normal process :-). Please let me know if you have any more questions or if you need my input on anything else and I'll be happy to help. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:58, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
No subject
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.
`7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:08, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- 7&6=thirteen - Did I respond to your email? I replied to a lot of messages today and I just want to make sure that I did - let me know. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:30, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- No. Take a look if you can find the time. Drift whale. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:31, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- 7&6=thirteen - I don't see it in my inbox - can you resend it to me? I'll take a look at it as soon as I receive it. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:33, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- 7&6=thirteen - Nevermind, I see it :-). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:36, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- 7&6=thirteen - I've responded to your email and the request has been completed. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:42, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- 7&6=thirteen - Nevermind, I see it :-). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:36, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- 7&6=thirteen - I don't see it in my inbox - can you resend it to me? I'll take a look at it as soon as I receive it. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:33, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- No. Take a look if you can find the time. Drift whale. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:31, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Me ajude help me
Ola você poderia me ajuda? JoseGUI (talk) 21:33, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Bensimon
I'm not sure those edits are eligible for RD. I removed them because they were uncited, not uncitable... --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:45, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- SarekOfVulcan - Which edits to where? Bensimon? I'm not finding the edits you're referring to... am I an idiot and missing something? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:52, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) The answer was "yes"... I am an idiot. You were talking about Kelly Killoren Bensimon :-). The edits needed redaction due to being blatant and serious BLP violations and with no basis or references to support them. The edits add content that state that the article subject was involved in what is considered a crime in most countries as well as other violations. This is why I applied RD2 to those edits. Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns and I'll be happy to answer them. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:12, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- SarekOfVulcan - If these edits are attributable (just not attributed) to reliable sources, then I understand your viewpoint completely. Since this is information that's readily available and with many sources that can be found, I'll go ahead and undo the rev dels that I made. I think that the content should either be restored and with reliable sources located and cited so that they are in compliance with BLP. Regardless, you are correct and RD2 doesn't apply. Thanks for the heads up; I appreciate it very much :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:27, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- This was a clear case for RD2, in my opinion. —DoRD (talk) 22:07, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- On the other hand, I now see that references are readily available via Google...so maybe not. —DoRD (talk) 22:23, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) The answer was "yes"... I am an idiot. You were talking about Kelly Killoren Bensimon :-). The edits needed redaction due to being blatant and serious BLP violations and with no basis or references to support them. The edits add content that state that the article subject was involved in what is considered a crime in most countries as well as other violations. This is why I applied RD2 to those edits. Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns and I'll be happy to answer them. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:12, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
the League edit war
you just tagged me for edit warring on the page for The League (app). Please review the talk page. I've consistently posted more and more citations, and these spammers keep deleting, without response or even logic, and without discussing anything on the talk page. They're vandalizing the page to promote racism, while veiling it as fake progressivism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.107.97 (talk • contribs) 21:51, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there, and thank you for leaving me a message here. I'm confused; I see your changes here (diffs: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5) but they add content and don't remove any kind of spam. I understand that you're participating on the article's talk page and I commend you for it greatly (seriously, there are lots of editors who choose to ignore and blow off doing this), but participation on the article's talk page or even in relevant discussions there does not grant you the ability to continue modifying the article unless a consensus or approval has been reached by the users involved in the discussion. I'm not here to judge whose revision is correct and whose are not - that's what content discussions are for... my main concern is the back-and-fourth reverting on the article, and I make sure to try and treat all users fairly and the same (when applicable) so that no editor is given favoritism or an advantage over the other. If you navigate to the involved editor's user talk page, you'll observe that I also left them an edit warring notice as well. The key here is treating both sides the same and being a completely neutral party, as well as not allowing irrelevant information to be used as a basis for judgment. Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks again for the message and I wish you a great rest of your day. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:01, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Adding citations to Points of Interest on Duxbury, Massachusetts page
Hello! I will definitely add some citations to the stuff that you took down because I am from Duxbury myself and those are some of the most notable points of interest.
I would like to say though, I am very new to wikipedia (just joined today) and i have no idea idea how to access the stuff that you took off (i also have no idea how to reply so sorry if this comes up as a new message). With a little help ill be on my way to getting some good citations. Thanks for understanding.
Its also late for me and I wont be able to edit until around 7 pm tomorrow because of school (around 12 hours from now)
RowdyRhubarb (talk) 23:55, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- RowdyRhubarb - No worries; there's no rush to do this. Just let me know if (at the time you add references) you need help, and I'll be happy to do so. Thanks for the message and for taking the time and understanding why your edit was problematic, and for working to resolve them :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:03, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
I cited some sources and I don't know if they are reliable enough for the article. The one for the Tree of Knowledge Corner is the only article I could find describing its history.
Just wanted to point that out just in case you have to remove them again. :) RowdyRhubarb (talk) 22:21, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- I moved the last message in this section here as the user does not know how to issue a reply. To answer that though, RowdyRhubarb, do you see the "edit source" link to the right of the section header (bold text that reads "Adding citations to Points of Interest on Duxbury, Massachusetts page" on this page)? Click that and it and it should open a view where you can edit in that section. Then you would just put your response at the bottom. I hope that that helps. --TheSandDoctor Talk 06:45, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
paris
Hello I have a little question about the paris knife attack article. It says and i quote Amaq News Agency claimed the shooter was a soldier of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and the attack is being investigated as terrorism.[5] Wouldent it be Attacker or stabber instead of shooter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.145.211.195 (talk) 01:25, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Oshwah
what country are you from? if its not america, then dont message me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.97.222.118 (talk) 01:52, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
A Barnstar
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | ||
I proudly admit that you're one of my favorite editors. It seems like whenever I find a vandal and go to report them, you've already beaten me by blocking them! Please keep up your amazing anti-vandalism and sysop contributions. Sincerely, Nanophosis (talk) 02:01, 15 May 2018 (UTC) |
- Nanophosis! Thank you very much for taking the time to leave me this barnstar - your kind words brought a smile to my face and they mean a lot. I'm just happy knowing that the time I give to the project is making at least some impact, let alone positive impact upon others. Again, I appreciate your message and barnstar very much and I thank you :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:05, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Chris Cunningham Divorce Update
Hi,
I am having difficulty updating Chris Cunninghams page, not sure how the layout of Wikipedia works. Here are the references stating that they are divorced:
http://magnetmagazine.com/2016/11/07/warpaint-the-un-breakup/
https://genius.com/artists/Chris-cunningham
If you know how to update the page correctly, I'd appreciate it! Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.98.217.119 (talk) 02:12, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there! Just review this page here regarding how to take these sources and cite them in-line with the article content you add. If you have any questions about the page, let me know and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. Thanks for the message and I wish you happy editing ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:20, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
On Gojko Mitic and the racist song about him
Hello Oshwah, I do not doubt your motives behind editing a coment in an effort to keep wikipedia neutral. The problem with the limited info about the song as it is now, is that it is promoting a racist mockery song with neo nazis in the video. The info given in the article is just misleading this way. If say an article about Rayo Vallecano includes the info that the Spanish punk ska band Ska-P has dedicated a song to the team and its supporters - that's perfectly normal. But if you say the same thing in an article about the Catholic church (and not in a paragraph dedicated to "criticism of doctrine and practices") then it will be misleading because the said Ska-P song is full of mockery, exposing the hypocrisy and utter moral corruption of the church etc. Do you see the difference? Also do you want me to translate for you the lyrics of the Hipodil song? And maybe poit out for you when exactly do the nazi skinheads appear in the video? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sando MV (talk • contribs) 07:10, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Ok, i obviously won't get a response. Once again, by "neutrally" advertising a racist song in which the person talked about in the wiki article is mocked for his alleged ethnic origin, wikipedia is acting in way that is not nearly neutral. What i did, and my edit was deleted by you, was to point out what is the message of the song and some features of its video. I have a suggestion - you either let me put some information about the song, or delete the mention of it entirely. Mmm? What do you say? Sando MV (talk) 14:06, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 07:14, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
No subject
The similar page named National Technology Council (Pakistan) is already on Wikipedia so there is no need of Pakistan Technology Council page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kashmiri1950 (talk • contribs) 09:05, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Unnecessary edits
I had to do this. Besides you do not belong to the college — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anon19420 (talk • contribs) 09:55, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- This guy has had his five-strikes then some. He's getting really annoying. Please remedy? Thanks Jim1138 (talk) 10:09, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | ||
Thanks for reverting vandalism tirelessly. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 10:04, 15 May 2018 (UTC) |
- Abelmoschus Esculentus! Thank you very much for the barnstar! You're quite welcome; always happy and willing to lend a hand and help keep the project clean and free of disruption ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:07, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- :-) Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 10:12, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
regarding the editing on dogra regiment(Indian Army)
the editing that i have done on that page are actual facts they have fought all wars before and after independence and the change that i have done regarding there gallentry award are also facts you guess havent updated there gallentry awards for years so i did it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arnav g d (talk • contribs) 14:29, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
My edit
it was an accident — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.80.18.0 (talk) 15:08, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- No worries; mistakes happen. Thanks for letting me know :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:26, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
the sohr has no observers on the ground
0 not even one yet they are seen as a source what is worse is that they claim 80 turkish soliders got killed at the same time they said only 250 pkk got killed in afrin and after turkey took afrin they changed to 1500 so people wont think that sohr makes numbers based on nothing in my opinon sorh should NEVER be used as a source for casualities
the sohr has no observers on the ground 0 not even one yet they are seen as a source what is worse is that they claim 80 turkish soliders got killed at the same time they said only 250 pkk got killed in afrin and after turkey took afrin they changed to 1500 so people wont think that sohr makes numbers based on nothing in my opinon sorh should NEVER be used as a source for casualities — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.223.67.239 (talk • contribs) 15:47, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Raven (2002 TV Series)
Hi Oshwah,
I have had a look through the contributions for the IP address and the page history and reveals the same copy and paste has occurred to the page a few times. Some may think this may be the same person doing this, e.g. this and this are somewhat identical. Iggy (Swan) 16:16, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- Iggy the Swan - That's certainly interesting information to see, and I agree that this most likely falls beyond coincidence... We'll just need to keep eyes on this article. If you see any disruption pick up there, let me know and I'll be happy to take a look. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:24, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
RevDel request
Could you RevDel [REDACTED - Oshwah] this] please? The vandal added legal threats as well as personal attacks. 172.58.153.114 (talk) 16:20, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
No subject
Hey Oshwah,
The boxers life dates can be found in External Links. Does that not suffice?
Murph24 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.251.18.96 (talk) 18:31, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oops! You're absolutely right! The information you added was already provided in the reference added to the article. I've restored your changes and removed the warning I left on your talk page. Thank you for letting me know about this so that I could correct what I didn't see :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:47, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Kelly Riddell Sadler
Hi,
I'm the person who added Kelly Riddell's married name to her Wikipedia page. Her married name is Sadler (she is married to Frank Sadler). This is the name she uses on her Twitter page: https://twitter.com/kellysadler45 I added this change to help people correctly locate Kelly Riddell on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.9.56.252 (talk) 18:56, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
List of fictional military aircraft
Hi Oshwah are you in position to terminate this "page"? All notable & sourcable content has moved to the List of fictional aircraft article as dicusssed & agreed on in the afd talk (and if not can you point me in the right direction) Cheers! - FOX 52 (talk) 21:05, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi FOX 52! This situation slightly complicates things as there's a current AFD discussion open for this article, but one that has been open since April and not added to since April either. I went ahead and changed the article to be a redirect to List of fictional aircraft and left the AFD template. I also added to the AFD discussion stating that this article should be redirected to the other. I know that it's "out of process" to add to the AFD discussion and perform the change to the article, but since this discussion is staling out I don't see much harm in this situation. If anything, it can be easily undone if one objects. Please let me know if I can help you with anything else and I'll be happy to do so. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:12, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
A bowl of strawberries for you!
Blocking 110.54.128.0/17 who thinks up of new vandalism and pages to disrupt Wikipedia. Iggy (Swan) 07:31, 16 May 2018 (UTC) |
Edit notice
Hi Oshwah! I just wanna let you know that I took your talk page edit notice as a reference and created mine here. I really like the design of your templates. Hope you won't mind it. Moreover, don't sue me because of copyright! XD Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 14:10, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
block
Please block User:Propaganda shoved down our threats. L293D (☎ • ✎) 22:05, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Peterson redirect
In February Dennis Brown created the redirect Scot Peterson with the editsum "BLP1E". Although the target article contains content about Peterson, it does not mention his name for privacy reasons (I can hunt down the multiple discussions forming that consensus if you like, and then there's the considerable de facto consensus as well). That is, it didn't mention the name until today, when a {{redirect-distinguish}}
was added at the top of the article.[15] Is a redirect appropriate? And is it useful to readers?
This would be at User talk:Dennis Brown but for the inactivity notice there. ―Mandruss ☎ 23:35, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Need help on User scripts
Hi Osh, Good day. I installed some scripts on my common.js page and bypassed the catch but seemed it is not working as I could not the following on my menu bar. Since you are a software expert :), I need your help to advise me what to do or which steps I have missed to get the scripts working.
importScript('Wikipedia:AutoEd/complete.js'); importScript( 'User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js' ); // Backlink: [[User:Evad37/MoveToDraft]] importScript( 'User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js' ); // Backlink: [[User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js]] importScript('User:Czar/closexfd.js'); //Linkback: [[User:Czar/closexfd.js]] Added by Script installer importScript('User:Evad37/XFDcloser.js'); //Linkback: [[User:Evad37/XFDcloser.js]] Added by Script installer importScript('User:GregU/dashes.js'); //Linkback: [[User:GregU/dashes.js]] Added by Script installer importScript('User:V111P/js/wikiTranslTools.js'); //Linkback: [[User:V111P/js/wikiTranslTools.js]] Added by Script installer importScript('User:GregU/dashes.js'); //Linkback: [[User:GregU/dashes.js]] Added by Script installer importScript('User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates.js'); //Linkback: [[User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates.js]] Added by Script installer importScript('User:Howcheng/quickimgdelete.js'); //Linkback: [[User:Howcheng/quickimgdelete.js]] Added by Script installer importScript('User:Ale jrb/Scripts/statusCheck.js'); //Linkback: [[User:Ale jrb/Scripts/statusCheck.js]] Added by Script installer importScript('User:Bility/statusupdate.js'); //Linkback: [[User:Bility/statusupdate.js]] Added by Script installer Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:44, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @CASSIOPEIA: Not sure if this will fix anything, but the first line on your common.js page is missing a semi-colon. I have the MOSNUM dates script installed and it appears on the left side of my screen under 'tools' when I have the editing screen open (it doesn't appear when normally viewing a page). I don't have the MoveToDraft script installed, but according to the documentation it should appear when you hover over 'more' at top right of the page. Jiten talk contribs 12:50, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Jiten D: Hi Osh and Jiten. Jitten, Thank you for your input above. I have added the " ;" after the my common.js page and bypassed the catch again and the tools still not appear on my menu "Tools" section. I still have the "review (AFCH)" and "Move to Draft" but "AutoEd" is missing under "More menu" (I installed all the three scripts prior my recent (2 days ago) batch script installation). What I have done wrong or which steps I have missed? Please help and thanks in advance. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:38, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) You might try removing User:Czar/closexfd.js. It might be conflicting with Evad37's. (You don't really need two for the same thing.) If that doesn't work, try 1) removing them all and add one at a time until one breaks something or 2) removing one at a time until the others all work. There could be an issue with one or more of the scripts. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:55, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Jiten D: Hi Osh and Jiten. Jitten, Thank you for your input above. I have added the " ;" after the my common.js page and bypassed the catch again and the tools still not appear on my menu "Tools" section. I still have the "review (AFCH)" and "Move to Draft" but "AutoEd" is missing under "More menu" (I installed all the three scripts prior my recent (2 days ago) batch script installation). What I have done wrong or which steps I have missed? Please help and thanks in advance. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:38, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Edit request
Hey, Oshwah! Could you please help handle my edit request of Foreign relations of China which you have just protected recently. Thanks! --123.161.168.116 (talk) 14:00, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- Done I'm not Oshwah, but I went ahead and filled the edit request for you 123.161 . (diff of answer, diff filling request) --TheSandDoctor Talk 15:47, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- I'm guessing that the IP who just made this request is actually the subject of WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Whaterss. He uses a number of IPs from the 123.161 range. EdJohnston (talk) 18:14, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
Actually, other people will choose the barnstars. I would like them to ship it to your address (not THIS IP). 209.52.88.248 (talk) 22:52, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- By the way, what is your address? 209.52.88.248 (talk) 00:43, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
error
on the infowars wikipage it says its a fake news website but i cant find any fake news on their site so why would you defame infowars by saying its fake news. please give examples bc everything I can find on infowars is real & usually infowars reports things long before other news sites. thanks this is important its defamation & libel & slander — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.47.99.189 (talk) 03:05, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) See the reliable sources cited at InfoWars#Fake_news, as well as elsewhere in the article. General Ization Talk 03:09, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi there, I have a question regarding that article. A week ago I made a revision to the lead that I thought addressed the concerns some editors raised on the talk page (which were that the word "many" in "many mass shootings" was too vague). That lead to some back and forth reversions, after which you locked the article. That lock expired a few days ago and nothing happened until today, when the lead was changed back to a version from before the 11th, and my attempts to restore it were reverted.
I think we have talk page consensus my edit was good, see here. There are five in favor (counting Mr rnddude who wanted something added to the body, which I tried to do today but was reverted) and three against. Maybe more importantly, the arguments put forward by the three opposed are very concise: "Clearly to much detail for the lead" and not "neutral tone" and were hardly expanded on. In favor, there is the fact that this does in fact summarize the body (where all the shootings in question are listed and have been for a while), is not long, is more specific than "many", and is reliably sourced.
Could you please advise me how to proceed in a situation where I think there is a consensus, but the opposed editors revert my attempts to follow it? I'm honestly trying to be constructive and improve the article by addressing the concerns people raised. I think there is a strong reaction any time any edit is made that clarifies the role these guns play in crimes and mass shootings. Thanks. Waleswatcher (talk) 19:08, 18 May 2018 (UTC)