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I marked the article for speedy deletion however you removed the tag. The event is mentioned under [[Eric_Swalwell#Ties_to_alleged_Chinese_spy]]. The article is not well sourced. It's merely salacious, so the ''exclusive'' Axios article [https://www.axios.com/china-spy-california-politicians-9d2dfb99-f839-4e00-8bd8-59dec0daf589.html] has been reported in other places. The fundamental problem is as I've outlined in the talk, is that this person was merely followed for '''potentially''' being a spy. The only facts were her involvement with powerful men. She wasn't arrested. She left the US voluntarily. The only govt action was to warn Swalwell of the risk. The [[Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons]] policy applies, which says just being suspected of something is not noteworthy. As is, the article is not biographical, but defamatory and a disclosure of confidential information. Can we return the tag so the matter can be carefully reviewed by administrators to decide what process should be followed. [[User:Travelmite|Travelmite]] ([[User talk:Travelmite|talk]]) 22:10, 11 December 2020 (UTC) |
I marked the article for speedy deletion however you removed the tag. The event is mentioned under [[Eric_Swalwell#Ties_to_alleged_Chinese_spy]]. The article is not well sourced. It's merely salacious, so the ''exclusive'' Axios article [https://www.axios.com/china-spy-california-politicians-9d2dfb99-f839-4e00-8bd8-59dec0daf589.html] has been reported in other places. The fundamental problem is as I've outlined in the talk, is that this person was merely followed for '''potentially''' being a spy. The only facts were her involvement with powerful men. She wasn't arrested. She left the US voluntarily. The only govt action was to warn Swalwell of the risk. The [[Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons]] policy applies, which says just being suspected of something is not noteworthy. As is, the article is not biographical, but defamatory and a disclosure of confidential information. Can we return the tag so the matter can be carefully reviewed by administrators to decide what process should be followed. [[User:Travelmite|Travelmite]] ([[User talk:Travelmite|talk]]) 22:10, 11 December 2020 (UTC) |
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:{{u|Travelmite}}, first, yes, she left voluntarily, as in fleeing the country. Second, the article is incredibly well sourced. And if you don't think an article sourced by the ''SF Chronicle'', Axios, ''The Hindustan Times'', Cleveland's ''City Beat'', ''Politico'', ''Fox'', and ''CNN'' isn't well sourced then you are clueless. [[User:onel5969|'''<span style="color:#536895;">Onel</span><span style="color:#ffb300;">5969</span>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Onel5969|<i style="color:blue">TT me</i>]]</sup> 22:35, 11 December 2020 (UTC) |
:{{u|Travelmite}}, first, yes, she left voluntarily, as in fleeing the country. Second, the article is incredibly well sourced. And if you don't think an article sourced by the ''SF Chronicle'', Axios, ''The Hindustan Times'', Cleveland's ''City Beat'', ''Politico'', ''Fox'', and ''CNN'' isn't well sourced then you are clueless. [[User:onel5969|'''<span style="color:#536895;">Onel</span><span style="color:#ffb300;">5969</span>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Onel5969|<i style="color:blue">TT me</i>]]</sup> 22:35, 11 December 2020 (UTC) |
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::She didn't have PR or refused an application. Her visa wasn't cancelled. There's not even an exit interview. The only information is "she said she could no longer attend because she unexpectedly needed to return to China". She had nothing to flee from, therefore "fleeing the country" is speculation that doesn't belong in Wikipedia, even on a talk page. Regarding sources, [[WP:RESEARCH]] says "Always be wary of ... multiple works that derive from a single source." [[WP:RS]] says "Multiple sources should not be asserted for any wire service article. Such sources are essentially a single source" and [[WP:RECENT]] says "editors should consider whether they are simply regurgitating media coverage of an issue or actually adding well-sourced information". You mention ''SF Chronicle'', ''The Hindustan Times'', Cleveland's ''City Beat'', ''Politico'', ''Fox'', and ''CNN''. Each one of these specifically say they are basing their information only the Axios report, and each use the term suspected, alleged or reported. Of course, the political reaction around Swalwell will have multiple-sources, but that is irrelevant to the lack of factual and neutral biographical information about Fang. The most relevant policy in this case is [[WP:SUSPECT]], which generates the tag you removed, and not yet explained. [[User:Travelmite|Travelmite]] ([[User talk:Travelmite|talk]]) 02:13, 12 December 2020 (UTC) |
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