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== October 2023 == |
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[[File:Information orange.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did at [[:Yosef Mizrachi]], without giving a valid reason for the removal in the [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]]. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been [[Help:Reverting|reverted]]. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use [[User:Nycarchitecture212/sandbox|your sandbox]] for that. You did not explain your removal of the infobox.<!-- Template:uw-delete2 --> [[User:Havradim|<span style="font-family:ariel, serif;color:maroon">Havradim</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Havradim|''<span style="font-family:Ariel, serif;color: darkgreen">leaf a message</span>'']]</small> 04:42, 26 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:Please refrain from posting this on my talk page. It's more suitable to post such content on the relevant page where it can be properly documented and discussed with other editors, preventing the need for repetition. |
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:Regarding the info box you added while deleting large chunks of my edits, it disappeared when the page was reverted. However, since you've re-added it, and it's a minor contribution that doesn't pose any issues, it can stay while we wait for a consensus on the article. [[User:Nycarchitecture212|Nycarchitecture212]] ([[User talk:Nycarchitecture212#top|talk]]) 05:04, 26 October 2023 (UTC) |
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::It 'disappeared when the page was reverted?' You [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yosef_Mizrachi&diff=1181932876&oldid=1181926452 deleted it with no explanation], hence the notice. [[User:Havradim|<span style="font-family:ariel, serif;color:maroon">Havradim</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Havradim|''<span style="font-family:Ariel, serif;color: darkgreen">leaf a message</span>'']]</small> 05:13, 26 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Incorrect, I just explained. The concern here is the substantial changes you introduced in a previous edit, where you deleted large chunks of edits with no explanation, and then sandwiched it between various minor edits after, which made it challenging to reinstate the page while retaining the infobox. The infobox is a minor matter, and I'm fine with it being there for now. Please refrain from further discussion on this topic on my talk page. [[User:Nycarchitecture212|Nycarchitecture212]] ([[User talk:Nycarchitecture212#top|talk]]) 06:38, 26 October 2023 (UTC) |
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[[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] Please stop your [[Wikipedia:Disruptive editing|disruptive editing]]. |
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* If you are engaged in an article [[Wikipedia:Editing policy|content dispute]] with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the [[:Talk:Yosef Mizrachi|article's talk page]], and seek [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] page, and ask for independent help at one of the [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution#Ask for help at a relevant noticeboard|relevant noticeboards]]. |
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* If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, seek assistance at Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents|Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]]. |
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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at [[:Yosef Mizrachi]], you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]. <!-- Template:uw-disruptive3 --> [[User:Havradim|<span style="font-family:ariel, serif;color:maroon">Havradim</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Havradim|''<span style="font-family:Ariel, serif;color: darkgreen">leaf a message</span>'']]</small> 08:04, 26 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:Stop projecting. I firmly believe I've done nothing wrong here. It's evident that you are engaging in Point of View (POV) railroading and disregarding the consensus, even when Wiki Project Judaism is supposed to guide our decisions. It seems you're taking liberties to insert edits while we're supposed to be waiting for input. This inconsistent approach is rather hypocritical. It's clear to me, and I'm sure others, that your behavior isn't aligned with a collaborative editing process. I strongly urge you to cease these actions. For your reference: |
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:Point of View (POV) railroading is the use of bullying tactics to discredit an editor with an opposing viewpoint or to eliminate them from a discussion. Railroading tactics can include frustrating the editor, hostility that discourages them from participating, or creating a false narrative that misrepresents actual events or edits in order to discredit the editor. These tactics are used to win an argument or take control of an article or topic area by focusing on the editor rather than the edits and editing process. |
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:A false narrative is a fabrication of a "story" about another editor in an attempt to discredit them, damage their reputation within the community, frustrate, or bait them. Unsubstantiated accusations of canvassing or conflict of interest, labeling an editor as a point-of-view pusher, or accusing them of being a sock puppet or meat puppet of a banned user are common false narratives. Editors may also misrepresent actual edits (including their own) or take diffs out of context to support a skewed version of events that supports their false narrative. |
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:Editors may attack or discredit another editor using a distorted interpretation of Wikipedia's behavioral policies and guidelines. They may quote policies in misleading ways, by citing them out of context, with extreme interpretations and without relevant disclaimers and exceptions. In other cases, a "policy bomb"—known as "alphabet soup"—may be used to overwhelm an editor with accusations of violations so numerous and so vague that the targeted editor feels intimidated. |
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:POV railroading is an insidious form of bullying that discourages new editors and increases attrition amongst veteran editors. It amplifies Wikipedia's systemic bias (whether that bias be of a gender-based, ethnicity-based, region-based, country-based etc. nature) and creates content bias in article and topic areas. Lastly, it gives Wikipedia an undesirable reputation as a place where aggression and gaming the system are permitted, valued and rewarded. |
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:Tactics can include continuously and exclusively referring to a user in a negative manner, the continuous use of personal attacks that escalate in severity over time and the casting of aspersions in a generalized manner, without providing any actual qualification for the claims, such as diffs, instead basing claims upon proof by assertion. Another tactic is to continuously mislabel the target as a disruptive editor in various venues, in deliberate attempts to mischaracterize entirely normative, civil and functional actions as deviant. [[User:Nycarchitecture212|Nycarchitecture212]] ([[User talk:Nycarchitecture212#top|talk]]) 08:14, 26 October 2023 (UTC) |
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::Thanks but no thanks for yet ''another'' wall of text full of gaslighting. I explain each and every edit of mine in great detail, so I challenge you to strike the above statement of yours {{tq|... you deleted large chunks of edits with no explanation...}} or prove it. Otherwise, you will have been shown to be guilty of casting aspersions at other editors. The admins are not going to take any of this lightly, I assure you. [[User:Havradim|<span style="font-family:ariel, serif;color:maroon">Havradim</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Havradim|''<span style="font-family:Ariel, serif;color: darkgreen">leaf a message</span>'']]</small> 08:39, 26 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Your track record of POV railroading and deleting large chucks of text today when there was a consensus to wait for input from the WikiProject Judaism page is all there on the page documented for the public to see. Also, I just want you to know, I really have nothing against you, at all, and am disappointed by your approach to discourse and hope you can work on that. Also, you probably don't want to bring attention to yourself, because you're the one that is guilty of the things discussed earlier. I haven't reached out to an admin or threatened to despite your attempts to intimidate me off of the page, because I forgive you for the behavior up until now. Please stop messaging me at this time, let it rest, as we are awaiting input from other editors for the career/lead sections before moving forward with other sections. [[User:Nycarchitecture212|Nycarchitecture212]] ([[User talk:Nycarchitecture212#top|talk]]) 09:00, 26 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::I asked you to strike the false statement and you refused to do it. I am just a volunteer here who has given much of my time for the last 7 years trying to improve this encyclopedia, and I do not intend to sit by and let an attack against my editing reputation go by like this unaddressed. [[User:Havradim|<span style="font-family:ariel, serif;color:maroon">Havradim</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Havradim|''<span style="font-family:Ariel, serif;color: darkgreen">leaf a message</span>'']]</small> 09:20, 26 October 2023 (UTC) |
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[[File:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|alt=Stop icon]] This is your '''only warning'''; if you make inappropriate or abusive edit summaries or comments again, you may be '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]] without further notice'''. <!-- Template:uw-bes4im --> [[User:Havradim|<span style="font-family:ariel, serif;color:maroon">Havradim</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Havradim|''<span style="font-family:Ariel, serif;color: darkgreen">leaf a message</span>'']]</small> 09:20, 26 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:Have you lost your mind? Seriously. You literally deleted my edits earlier today on Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi's page despite the consensus among editors to pause and defer to Wiki Project Judaism and now you are calling it a false statement? You spend weeks accusing me of working for Rabbi Mizrachi, and trying to intimidate me to not edit, and when I call you out on it you're surprised? |
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:''Editors may attack or discredit another editor using a distorted interpretation of Wikipedia's behavioral policies and guidelines. They may quote policies in misleading ways, by citing them out of context, with extreme interpretations and without relevant disclaimers and exceptions. In other cases, a "policy bomb"—known as "alphabet soup"—may be used to overwhelm an editor with accusations of violations so numerous and so vague that the targeted editor feels intimidated.'' [[User:Nycarchitecture212|Nycarchitecture212]] ([[User talk:Nycarchitecture212#top|talk]]) 09:40, 26 October 2023 (UTC) |
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::{{tq|Have you lost your mind? Seriously.}} Adding another personal attack, in addition to no retraction of the previous false accusation. I'm sorry it had to come to this. [[User:Havradim|<span style="font-family:ariel, serif;color:maroon">Havradim</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Havradim|''<span style="font-family:Ariel, serif;color: darkgreen">leaf a message</span>'']]</small> 10:33, 26 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:::See the discussion at {{slink|User talk:HJ Mitchell|At wit's end regarding Nycarchitecture212}}. Thank you. [[User:Havradim|<span style="font-family:ariel, serif;color:maroon">Havradim</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Havradim|''<span style="font-family:Ariel, serif;color: darkgreen">leaf a message</span>'']]</small> 12:22, 26 October 2023 (UTC) |
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== ANI Notice == |
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[[File:Information icon4.svg|link=|25px|alt=Information icon]] There is currently a discussion at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.<!--Template:Discussion notice--><!--Template:ANI-notice-->[[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish|talk]]) 22:49, 26 October 2023 (UTC) |
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== A personal note == |
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I have invested an absolutely ridiculous amount of time in trying to work collaboratively with you. In good faith. I don't have a problem with positive opinions of Mizrachi being included on his page if there is policy-compliant sourcing for it. The fact that when I try and establish what the policy is, you railroad my inquiries (which is what I consider you to have done in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Judaism]] case) is my final straw. Please no longer tag me or seek to collaborate with me. Either you will be blocked from editing Mizrachi's page, or I will withdraw. No further contact is necessary. [[User:Samuelshraga|Samuelshraga]] ([[User talk:Samuelshraga|talk]]) 07:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC) |
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==Partial block== |
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You have been indefinitely blocked from editing the article [[Yosef Mizrachi]] for long-term edit warring, violations of neutral point of view, filibustering, and generally wasting other editors' time. See also [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=1182134484#NPOV,_Puffery,_SYNTH,_OR,_and_more_at_Yosef_Mizrachi this ANI discussion]. You can request unblock from an uninvolved administrator by placing <nowiki>{{unblock|your reason here}}</nowiki> on this page. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 10:20, 27 October 2023 (UTC). |
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:[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=1182606860#NPOV,_Puffery,_SYNTH,_OR,_and_more_at_Yosef_Mizrachi Updated permanent ANI link]. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 09:21, 30 October 2023 (UTC). |